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underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:26 PM Oct 2016

So, if trump wins and then gets sued, goes on trial for fraud, rape, etc;, and gets impeached,

booted out of office, fired, etc.... Is PENCE then the new President?

What happens? Clearly pence isn't fit to serve.

What sort of hell would break loose? Could we have a do-over election? Would it be like Brexit -- which happens to be my favorite popcorn inducer. 'Wait, wait, yes we voted but we didn't REALLY want to leave the EU, we want to vote again, please!'

In all seriousness, we all know trump isn't fit or competent to serve, and he won't last until February 1st. I know the there is technically some sort of back up plan. Who is it meant to be? Is this some sort of HUGE power play by the gop?

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So, if trump wins and then gets sued, goes on trial for fraud, rape, etc;, and gets impeached, (Original Post) underahedgerow Oct 2016 OP
Nothing Will Happen. GOP Would Protect Him. They Support Him Really. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2016 #1
No, they don't. duffyduff Oct 2016 #9
Pence was their chosen leader in the first place. The RNC want the whole country to be Kansas. haele Oct 2016 #20
So -- let's not even go there. Farmgirl1961 Oct 2016 #2
Absolutely, nicely said! imanamerican63 Oct 2016 #13
If Trump wins and is impeached, then Pence will be president jberryhill Oct 2016 #3
Well, Ford ended up being an all right guy, nothing to write home about, but not underahedgerow Oct 2016 #12
"Is he fit to serve as President?" jberryhill Oct 2016 #14
I said 'fit', not eligible. There's a difference. underahedgerow Oct 2016 #15
Well, it wouldn't matter in the scenario you proposed jberryhill Oct 2016 #17
Yes, but that is a long stretch. It could take a year or two or more to work its way through. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2016 #4
Silly question. Trump will never be President. Coyotl Oct 2016 #5
Yep. Trump is toast. duffyduff Oct 2016 #10
Dude, one word. underahedgerow Oct 2016 #11
I've been saying that for months. That is why they tricked Trump into picking Pence applegrove Oct 2016 #6
if they can't stand up to trump now, they certainly won't stand up to him as president. unblock Oct 2016 #7
Then our next president will hate squash! Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2016 #16
Succession of power is pretty well stated. Oneironaut Oct 2016 #18
Matters not compared to private servers or emails. kairos12 Oct 2016 #19
If there's a Republican House, he could keep on raping and not get impeached. Bucky Oct 2016 #21
Pence is pres. and Ryan is VP. Sunlei Oct 2016 #22

haele

(12,751 posts)
20. Pence was their chosen leader in the first place. The RNC want the whole country to be Kansas.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 04:15 PM
Oct 2016

Christy was Trump's original choice; while he had some slime associated with him, there is still enough plausible deniability that he could survive Bridgegate if Trump was being taken seriously as President by the puppet masters who run the RNC.

I'm beginning to think Pence was going to be VP no matter who won the GOP primary - look at the clowns who were vetted by Prebus and the RNC. Every single one of them had issues that would get them impeached, or were so weak, they'd rubber stamp the party line.

Pence is considered a party "leader" to most GOP'ers - he's portrayed as a good, conservative party motivator who's just smart enough to stay out of legal trouble with the minimum of cover-up. But like Brownback, another GOP vision "leader", he's unelectable outside of his home constituency; he would never be able to make it out of a primary on a national level. So, he's a good "spare" to run foreign and domestic policy for a figurehead president, just as Bush 39 and Cheney were for their zombie bosses.

The only difference between then and now, was that GHWB and Cheney were the last of the old GOP of the Cold War - WASPy anti-communist globalists, but not full on Birchers, because they actually had to deal with ramifications of both international policy and war.
The current crop of GOP'ers have been taken over by their Tea-hadist creations, and they're heading towards full on parochial Dominionism.

Haele

Farmgirl1961

(1,494 posts)
2. So -- let's not even go there.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:28 PM
Oct 2016

I mean, I'll admit...I'm a little bit nervous, but I'm not willing to go down that road.

Let's stay focused on our task at hand. GOTV...GOTV...GOTV...GOTV...GOTV...

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. If Trump wins and is impeached, then Pence will be president
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:29 PM
Oct 2016

End of story. There is no "what happens?" about it.

When Nixon resigned, we ended up with a president and a Vice President for whom no one voted at all.

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
12. Well, Ford ended up being an all right guy, nothing to write home about, but not
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:51 PM
Oct 2016

in such a divisive and seething hotbed of partisanship as we're seeing now in the halls.

I see pence as a genuine tool and basically a real asshole. Is he fit to serve as President? Gosh, we don't know much about him other than he's just another corrupt republican.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. "Is he fit to serve as President?"
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:07 PM
Oct 2016

He's over 35, born a US citizen, and lived in the US for 14 years, as far as I know.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. Well, it wouldn't matter in the scenario you proposed
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:10 PM
Oct 2016

If Pence is the vice president, and the president is impeached, then Pence becomes president. It works that way.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Yes, but that is a long stretch. It could take a year or two or more to work its way through.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:30 PM
Oct 2016

If Trump wins, I expect that things will go so bad that the Senate and House will remain in Republican hands, and they will gut everything.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
5. Silly question. Trump will never be President.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:46 PM
Oct 2016

What grade are you in? Or are you in some far off country? Where did you learn English without knowing how the government works?

underahedgerow

(1,232 posts)
11. Dude, one word.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 01:31 AM
Oct 2016

bush.

Been there, done that, didn't just read the book, but wrote the book.

Your snide, nasty little personal attacks aside, I've been on this site since February 2001 and worked with the original posters here to expose the corruption of the GOP during the bush v gore incident in Florida.

I was here on 9/11 and in the trenches on that one too.

I've been on the ground and writing about and exposing voting and poll corruption since the 80's during the original Votescam, The Stealing of America. No, not bush v gore, the one before that. You might want to look into it. You don't know anything about vote and election corruption until you know about Votescam.

I know more about how the government works than you ever could, having worked in local, state, federal and international agencies for more than 30 years.

While it doesn't seem logical that such lunacy could put trump in the white house, it IS possible -- it's happened before, it's happening again, and only an idiot would assume it's not. It's right in front of you.

I have absolutely no doubts about Mrs. Clinton's abilities as a President, she'll be absolutely fantastic, in spite of the gop obstructionism. This woman has had my unwavering support for decades. As a younger woman, when I needed courage, I would 'be' Hillary... What would Hillary do? She is a model of courage, fortitude, intellect and strength of character.

What I do doubt is the courage, fortitude, intellect and strength of character of the American public. Most people are morons, living their irrelevant little lives and really not caring about the depths and horrors of the political process, and that's fine, it keeps maintains a certain level of mediocrity that is just fine for the masses. The problem is that this fine American public with their blinders on are happy to repeat the inane phrases about Mrs. Clinton to an overwhelming crowdswell -- and that taints everything. And that's what's out there, the simple, negative phrases.

'You can't trust her'
'She's power hungry'
'She's a liar'
'Emails'

These morons don't look beyond the bumper sticker and the hashtag, and they will vote against her rather than for something else. Or not vote at all. Humans take the easy way out. It's much easier to be against something rather than for something, and this will tilt this election, compounded by corruption and election fraud. Trump is still a male. Males are always, ALWAYS allowed to be imperfect. A woman is not allowed to be anything less than perfect, in which case she's not as good as a man, in the global opinion. In that case, the choice is a man.... or no choice at all.

Trumps odds are dropping. Last week, I would have made nearly double the money on those odds. This week, it's dropped to 11/7. Nearly half. Mrs. Clinton's odds are getting much slimmer with a much higher profitability factor, and this is bad, bad news.

You need to check your manners and your attitude, and you owe me an apology for being so very rude. I'm a good, kind, honest person asking a genuine question in a community that I've been a part of for about 10 years longer than you. Just because you don't like the question doesn't mean you have to retort with rudeness and arrogance.

applegrove

(119,464 posts)
6. I've been saying that for months. That is why they tricked Trump into picking Pence
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:54 PM
Oct 2016

instead of Christie. They wanted an establishment GOPER when Trump was impeached if he wins.

unblock

(52,852 posts)
7. if they can't stand up to trump now, they certainly won't stand up to him as president.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:02 AM
Oct 2016

fortunately, hillary will be president and trump will be less than zero.

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