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DON'T FUCKING LOOK AT THEM
Sure, whatever. 
The squeaking makes the video.
I don't think the OP here read the entire post... 
I have a soft spot for ponies. 
"ARE YOU NUTS? I'M A HORSE!"
[font size="1"]EVERY TIME YOU CLOP, PINKIE PIE KILLS A PONY[/font]
NO:
Yes:
what you might call a "unique perspective". 
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My opinion: Porn varies a LOT...Lately, much of it has gotten VERY ugly,
demeaning and VIOLENT.
Men REALLY need to try putting themselves in the position of women
who are, by and large, both physically and socially/emotionally more
vulnerable then men.
Until they stop being simply consumers and manufacturers,
they won't have a clue....It is, in fact, a bit like telling Black people
how they should feel about being called "boy" or "nigger".
that these externalities (i.e., "objectification" in fact exist is rather puzzling to me. That they exist is taken as a given that cannot be challenged, yet no objective, peer-reviewed scientific evidence exists in support of their existence.
Taking such an assertion on faith alone is just as wack as accepting the myth of transubstantiation at face value. It is not possible to will something into existence just because you wish it to be true to support your preconceived conclusions.
Furthermore, the entire concept of "objectification" seems awfully murky. This is not measuring red shift in light from distant galaxies, which can be mathematically proven. The term "objectification" itself is highly subjective because there is no way to define the term in a cut and dried way that stands, like a mathematical proof, outside the debate. So the term is basically meaningless.
The anti-porn people remind me of nothing so much as the anti-choice people who just "know" that a woman who terminates a pregnancy suffers some incredible, yet unquantifiable and unverifiable harm. No evidence is offered other than the belief that it MUST be so. And it must be so because it supports their position, evidence be damned.
ETA: I am talking here about "conventional" porn - pix or movies of people having consensual sex, not the kinds of hyper-extreme (and to me personally disgusting) things LiberalLoner has described here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=828673
Awesome!
The porn I watch has absolutely nothing to do with hating women but has everything to do with ogling men!
but I want to appear self-righteous on a progressive message board. What do I do?
I would imagine also that if one doesn't like criticism of porn, one should not read it.
Six of one and half a dozen of the other...
but in all seriousness, there's a difference between "regular" porn, which is basically taping people having sex, and the heinous shit that involves choking, puking, poo, shit like that. they make some pretty sick shit.
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"Things are getting more and more demeaning towards women. It's degrading. It's very, very violent.""I sit there everyday and I sew up anal tears and anal prolapse and the physical conditions of what people are putting their bodies through is getting very, very far away from sexuality as we know it." - "Doctor" Sharon Mitchell, Adult Industry Medical (AIM)
"My first scene was one of the worst experiences of my life. It was very scary. It was a very rough scene. My agent didn't let me know ahead of time... I did it and I was crying and they didn't stop. It was really violent. He was hitting me. It hurt. It scared me more than anything. They wouldn't stop. They just kept rolling."
"Drugs are huge. They're using viagra. It's unnatural. The girls will be on xanax and vicodin." ~~~~~
-Sierra Sinn
"I didnt want to feel the pain of penetration from an over average sized man, being told to freeze in a position until the camera man was happy with his shots was very painful. I had peoples body fluids forced on my face or anywhere else the producer pleased and I had to accept it or else no pay. Sometimes you would get to a gig and the producer would change what the scene was supposed to be to something more intense and again if you didn't like it, too bad, you did it or no pay." ~~~~~
-Elizabeth Rollings
"When you suffer from childhood sexual abuse or were severely abused as a child, you usually repress those memories. You are unable to say, 'I am doing this because I was abused as a child and this is all I know how to do. This is all I know how to feel.' I think a lot of the women are in denial and they don't realize what post-traumatic stress disorder is. You either totally go a whole different direction and turn your life around and get as far away from that abuse as you can – or you re-live the experience, and a lot of these women are re-living what they know how to feel."
- ex-porn performer Carol Smith, in Not For Sale
" Howard (Stern) asked me if I'd ever been molested or abused. It was the one question I wasn't prepared for." 'No', I told Howard, in answer to his question. I lied like a rug. I wasn't ready to tell anybody about any of this (being gang raped, beaten and left for dead), and I certainly wasn't ready to deal with Howard's reaction. I didn¹t want anyone to think that I was in the business because I was a victim." (Pgs. 391 and 395)
- Jenna Jameson, in "How to Make Love Like a Porn Star"
" Step One: Teenager becomes a model. Reason Like all teenagers, she thinks she's special.
Step Two: Teenager starts dating a tattoo artist and biker. Reason He's older, badder, and allegedly wiser.
Step Three: Teenager becomes a stripper. Reason Work, money, and approval of boyfriend.
Step Four: Teenager starts modeling nude. Reason It's just like real modeling, except with the stripping added in.
Step Five: Teenager starts acting in soft-core all-female adult movies. Reason Revenge.
-Jameson, page 126
"Most girls get their first experience in gonzo films – in which they’re taken to a crappy studio apartment in Mission Hills and penetrated in every hole possible by some abusive asshole who thinks her name is Bitch. And these girls, some of whom have the potential to become major stars in the industry, go home afterward and pledge never to do it again because it was such a terrible experience.”
-Jameson
"I went through more heartbreaks and became suicidal. I was taken to the hospital for panic attacks. I tried to overdose on xanax, strangle myself, and cut my wrists but not nearly deep enough. I was too scared of the pain."
-Crissy Moran
"I hung out with a lot of people in the Adult industry, everybody from contract girls to gonzo actresses. Everybody has the same problems. Everybody is on drugs. It's an empty lifestyle trying to fill up a void.
"I became horribly addicted to heroin and crack. I overdosed at least 3 times, had tricks pull knives on me, have been beaten half to death."
-Becca Brat
"Guys punching you in the face. You have semen from many guys all over your face, in your eyes. You get ripped. Your insides can come out of you. It's never ending."
-Jersey Jaxin
"When I arrived to the set I expected to do a vaginal girl boy scene. But during the scene with a male porn star, he forced himself anally into me and would not stop. I yelled at him to stop and screamed 'No' over and over but he would not stop. The pain became too much and I was in shock and my body went limp. I couldn’t fight him off anymore. After the scene, they wouldn’t give me a ride home. I called a taxi and went to a medical clinic to check me out due to the severe pain I was in. A day later I received a phone call from Vince to keep my mouth shut about the rape. He threatened me that I didn’t know who I was messing with and that his edited footage of what happened would prove me a liar. When I went to Red Light District to get my check, I was only paid for vaginal, not the anal rape. The anal scene was so traumatizing that I hid out for six weeks. "
-Corina Taylor
"After only 30 movies I caught two sexually transmitted diseases. Herpes, a non-curable disease and HPV, which led to cervical cancer where I had to have half of my cervix removed. Porn destroyed my life."
-Roxy
"I had bodily fluids all over my face that had to stay on my face for ten minutes. The abuse and degradation was rough. I sweated and was in deep pain. On top of the horrifying experience, my whole body ached, and I was irritable the whole day. The director didn't really care how I felt; he only wanted to finish the video."
-Genevieve
“I like to hide — hide everything, you know?... And I'm not happy... I don't like myself at all... My whole entire body feels it when I'm doing it and... I feel so — so gross.”
-Belladonna
"I honestly felt that if I had to have another strange man in my face, his hands (God knows where they’ve been) all over me, him calling me his “baby”, and having to exude some sort of forged passion for the world to see, I probably would’ve exploded. And what would’ve been stuck to the walls would’ve probably been nothing. Just pieces of skin, bone, the brain of a robot, and what would have been left of a once huge and warm heart."
-Ashlynn Brooke
“People in the porn industry are numb to real life and are like zombies walking around. The abuse that goes on in this industry is completely ridiculous. The way these young ladies are treated is totally sick and brainwashing. I left due to the trauma I experienced even though I was there only a short time."
-Jessie Jewels
"As for myself, I ended up paying the price from working in the porn industry. In 2006, not even 9 months in, I caught a moderate form of dysplasia of the cervi
which is a form of HPV, a sexually transmitted disease) and later that day, I also found out I was pregnant. I had only 1 choice which was to abort the baby during my first month. It was extremely painful emotionally and physically."
-Tamra Toryn
"I already had a past history of abuse by men, including my alcoholic father who beat my mother daily and then shot himself in the head in front of me when I was nine years old." "My first movie I was treated very rough by 3 guys. They pounded on me, gagged me with their penises, and tossed me around like I was a ball! I was sore, hurting and could barely walk. My insides burned and hurt so badly. I could barely pee and to try to have a bowel movement was out of the question. I was hurting so bad from the physical abuse from these 3 male porn stars! I swore I’d never do porn again..."
-Alexa Milano
“For masturbation videos, unsanitized sex toys were offered as props. On set, if a girl was having reservations, or second thoughts, the producers would become very belligerent. I remember during one particular production, this girl, who was new to porn, came with her boyfriend. She couldn't have been any older than 19 or 20. When it was time for her scene, she said she wasn't sure she wanted to do it. She was very distraught, and nervous, but the producers and her boyfriend just kept egging her on. They told her how sexy she was, and eventually became very irate, telling her how she shouldn't be there wasting their time if she wasn't serious. Most producers have absolutely no patience with the girls, even though being on set is a very traumatizing experience. There is no room for compassion in the porn industry.”
-Ashley Brooks
"Well, I grew up in a small town in Ohio , and when I was 10 years old, I was raped by a high school boy that was about 16. And from there, my mother had an older boyfriend that molested me, so my entire childhood was really shaped by these really traumatic sexual experiences, which ultimately led me to the streets of Hollywood and to porn."
-Traci Lords, in a Fox News interview
"
Traci Lords) makes abundantly clear how easily the internal struggles of any sweet, curious young girl can be manipulated. The product of a broken home with a brutal father and a weary mother, the one-time Nora Kuzma is raped at age 10 but her 16-year-old crush: 'How could I deny it?' she writes of her resulting self-image. 'I was a whore.'"
-From a review of Traci Lords¹ book Underneath it All
" Half the women I knew outside porn had been sexually abused as little girls, so it only stood to reason that the statistics might apply in porn as well. One study of the general population claims it is two out of three. The puzzling refrain I'd begun hearing from porn outsiders: "There are plenty of people with histories of sexual abuse who didn't grow up to be porn stars." That's missing the point: The ones who did become sex workers were abused. All of them, that's my guess."
-From Ian Gittler, A Diary of Six Years in the Life of a Porn Star. Rolling Stone October 14, 1999
"Although the money was as good as promised — $1,000 to $2,000 for an eight-hour shoot — life on the porn set was degrading and dangerous. And, it was spiritually killing her. "I went through the motions, but I was dead inside," she says.
In despair, she tried to commit suicide by slashing her wrists, driving drunk and overdosing on drugs. "
-Shelley Lubben
"Degradation drives the business. … There are things going on right now that are way over the line." - Khan Tusion, porn producer
"Where else but in porn can you see a guy who just met a girl that day crack her around, choke her out." - Brandon Iron, porn producer
"The girls get torn up like usual." - Vince Vouyer, porn producer
"I find myself not that much unlike the slaves and slave traders of some 400 years ago. I participate in the most heinous of ALL trades- THE BUYING AND SELLING OF HUMAN FLESH. I trade my own flesh for monetary compensation and I sell the flesh of others for the same." - Lexington Steele, porn performer/producer
"This industry is full of people that hate - literally HATE women." - Julie Meadows, former porn star
Here are the facts about the not so glamorous porn industry.
• 36 porn stars died that we know of from HIV, suicide, homicide and drugs between 2007 and 2010.
• 66% of porn performers have Herpes, a non-curable disease.
• 2,396 cases of Chlamydia and 1,389 cases of Gonorrhea reported among performers since 2004.
• Over 100 straight and gay performers died from AIDS.
• 26 cases of HIV reported by Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation (AIM), since 2004.
• 70% of sexually transmitted infections in the porn industry occur in females according to County of Los Angeles Public Health.
• Chlamydia and Gonorrhea among performers is 10x greater than that of LA County 20-24 year olds.
• The largest group viewing online pornography is ages 12 to 17.
• More than 11 million teens regularly view porn online.
• There are 4.2 million pornographic websites, 420 million pornographic web pages, and 68 million daily search engine requests.
• 50% of men and 20% of women in the church regularly view porn.
• Of 1351 pastors surveyed, 54% had viewed Internet pornography within the last year.
• Of all known child abuse domains, 48 percent are housed in the United States.
• At the 2003 meeting of the American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers, a gathering of the nation’s divorce lawyers, attendees
revealed that 58% of their divorces were a result of a spouse looking at excessive amounts of pornography online.
• Child pornography is one of the fastest growing businesses online, and the content is becoming much worse. In 2008, Internet
Watch Foundation found 1,536 individual child abuse domains.
• Worldwide pornography revenue in 2006 was $97.06 billion. Of that, approximately $13 billion was in the United States.
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