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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:45 PM Nov 2016

Another DU attack - on Wiki?

This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page.
Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the guide to deletion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Underground
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MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
2. Highly unlikely.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:00 PM
Nov 2016

Wikipedia is a weird place. Anyone can propose anything there. The article on DU won't be deleted. Cooler heads will prevail.

N.B. - I'm not a participant at Wikipedia, but nothing can happen without a discussion. Since this nomination for an Article for Deletion was just posted today, no discussion has taken place. I expect that any such discussion will lead to the conclusion that the article on Democratic Underground should remain on Wikipedia.

People do this sort of attack all the time. The person who nominated the article for deletion has no credibility or activity on Wikipedia, as far as I can see.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,308 posts)
3. Wikipedia editors can help by giving reasons to keep the article
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:11 PM
Nov 2016

following the link in that box at "please share your thoughts"

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
4. I don't see that link, but I'm not a Wikipedia editor.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:13 PM
Nov 2016

I assume there will be responses to this nomination for deletion. I've just never gotten involved in Wikipedia editing.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
6. My comments
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:18 PM
Nov 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Democratic_Underground_(2nd_nomination)#Democratic_Underground

I also disagree with deletion. A simple Google News search on "Democratic Underground" results in 25000+ articles about DU from all kinds of news sources including major newspapers around the world. Let me know if anyone needs me to post specific links on that because there are many. Anyone saying DU fails on notability grounds has simply not done any research at all to determine if that is so. Steven Leser (talk) 18:17, 19 November 2016 (UTC) Steven Leser

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
9. It is interesting that there is that Wiki history...
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Nov 2016

of people 'criticizing' DU for being DU, rather than critiquing the factuality and related citations in the "article" entry.

It's alarming how public censorship is becoming so common place and acceptable.

phallon

(260 posts)
7. Is this the warning that the Trump Secret Service will come after DU star members
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Nov 2016

for exercising free speech? That's what I got from this link.

Mosby

(16,301 posts)
8. wierd how they bring in criticism from a hate site
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:41 PM
Nov 2016

Who the hell cares what the Antisemites at salem-news think about DU.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. There has been repeated editing.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:34 PM
Nov 2016

First, all the negative criticisms disappeared - and what little there was about DU. Two paragraphs, basically.

Now, nothing but the "bad" is back!

I have to admit, Wiki confirmed DU credibility for me when I first stumbled on it - and I don't mind it is being watched by the powers that be - "A kicked dog howls loudest!" - but these repeated attempts to make DU disappear are starting to piss me off big time!



tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
12. As someone who was an active contributor to Wiki many years ago, I would disagree.
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:51 PM
Nov 2016

Unless you regularly edit and contribute at Wikipedia, let the system work itself out.

I think this community easily stands on it's merits, but the perception of canvassing would more than likely serve only to irritate regular contributors and hurt our cause.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. The problem with that plan is that folks who want DU to go away clearly ARE canvassing
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:12 PM
Nov 2016

And the multiple voices calling for DUs deletions may come to seem like consensus.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. The Wikipedia is a safe space for libertarians and Randroids
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:05 PM
Nov 2016

I'm sorry I wasted so many years there, but really, it is a sad cesspool of misogynistic man-children only a few steps removed from the alt-right.

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