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kebob

(499 posts)
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 08:33 AM Nov 2016

53 Years Later, How Do We Feel?

Last edited Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:14 AM - Edit history (1)

I think there was a conspiracy, but our number is declining.


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Oswald acted alone
1 (25%)
Oswald was involved, but so were others
2 (50%)
Oswald really WAS a patsy
1 (25%)
Johnson was responsible
0 (0%)
The CIA was responsible
0 (0%)
The Soviets were responssible
0 (0%)
Fidel Castro
0 (0%)
The Mob
0 (0%)
The Military Industrial Complex
0 (0%)
Other (Please Specify)
0 (0%)
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53 Years Later, How Do We Feel? (Original Post) kebob Nov 2016 OP
Kick kebob Nov 2016 #1
I waffle back and forth treestar Nov 2016 #2
I Don't Rule Out The Soviets kebob Nov 2016 #3
Mafia with help from CIA connected freelancers Beausoleil Nov 2016 #4
Kick Two kebob Nov 2016 #5
K for the Afternoon Crowd kebob Nov 2016 #6
Final Kick for the Evening Shift kebob Nov 2016 #7
It was George H W Bush NightWatcher Nov 2016 #8
I have no goddam idea, except that the Lone Gunman theory is impossible... First Speaker Nov 2016 #9

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. I waffle back and forth
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:00 AM
Nov 2016

Though it can't be proven, someone else had to have been involved. The reason I say it is during the Cold War someone (Oswald) who actually defected to the USSR being allowed to return. Not normal for then.

Beausoleil

(2,909 posts)
4. Mafia with help from CIA connected freelancers
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:29 AM
Nov 2016

I've done a lot of reading over the years, but the most compelling case was put forward by John H. Davis in his two books:

Mafia Kingfish: Carlos Marcello and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy
Kennedy Contract: The Mafia Plot to Assassinate the President

Robert Blakey, Chief Counsel of the HSCA reached a similar conclusion but counted Oswald as more then just a "patsy", which he wrote about in "The Plot to Kill the President".

I think it fits perfectly with the way the Mafia just does business, no grand conspiracy required. Some involvement by actors who worked for both the CIA and the Mafia. Essentially this was a Mafia hit in retaliation for the Kennedy brothers pursuit of organized crime and the loss of Havana casino money with the assistance of operatives who thought that Kennedy needed to be eliminated for the Bay of Pigs debacle and the loss of Cuba.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
9. I have no goddam idea, except that the Lone Gunman theory is impossible...
Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:19 PM
Nov 2016

...and I mean that literally: it is *impossible*. I can believe three impossible things before breakfast, but not a dozen. Science has been perverted in this case to an amazing degree, with defenders of the WC pulling various scientific "facts" out of their asses whenever it's convenient for them--facts that only occurred on November 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, and nowhere else in time and space. I might add that it's irrelevant what percentage of the population believes what. What happened on that day is what happened, like every other event in history, and polls taken twenty, fifty, a hundred, years later don't change that. I've been studying this case for fifty years, read everything there is to read, and have actually interviewed witnesses. I attended the HSCA hearings in the late 70s--it's amazing how everyone has forgotten about the HSCA--and got to know some of the staffers, especially the late Gaeton Fonzi. From him, I got what is probably my only strong belief about the case--that the late William King Harvey was probably involved in the assassination. I still think this is likely. And I also think it's likely that Oswald was set up, though he knew *something* about it all. Apart from that, your guess is as good as mine.

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