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applegrove

(118,816 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:27 PM Nov 2016

Trump turning away intelligence briefings since victory: report

Trump turning away intelligence briefings since victory: report

BECCA SAVRANSK at the Hill

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Donald Trump has been turning away intelligence briefings since winning the presidency earlier this month, The Washington Post reported.

Since his win, the president-elect has received only two classified intelligence briefings — an initial briefing he got within days of his victory and a second he received on Tuesday in New York before leaving for Florida for the Thanksgiving holiday.

That number so far is lower than his predecessors, according to current and former U.S. officials.

In the two weeks since the election, intelligence analysts have been ready to give Trump daily briefings on global developments and security threats, according to The Post.

Vice President-elect Mike Pence has reportedly made time almost every day since the election to receive the intelligence briefings.


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Trump turning away intelligence briefings since victory: report (Original Post) applegrove Nov 2016 OP
Trump is delegating the big headache-y stuff to Pence. Ilsa Nov 2016 #1
He should study the countries on the map so that he can put his briefings into some context. applegrove Nov 2016 #8
Nah, that requires effort and concentration. Ilsa Nov 2016 #9
His dyslexic and has a context dependant memory. If he learnt the map of the most important applegrove Nov 2016 #11
Agreed, but he has to want to do it. I don't think he does, yet. nt Ilsa Nov 2016 #12
Thank you my fellow Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #13
Yes. He will have to have the intelligence briefings dumbed down for him. Made very applegrove Nov 2016 #14
It will have to be 4th grade Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #17
Map of the world to que him on the country(ies) involved. Repetative briefings that applegrove Nov 2016 #18
This is a diseaster looking for a place to happen. Wellstone ruled Nov 2016 #20
If we could just get him to buy real estate and put his name on a building in every applegrove Nov 2016 #25
That's it. If it's not about him, he doesn't care. subterranean Nov 2016 #40
He's a person who is dependant on the concrete. His is out of his element in applegrove Nov 2016 #41
And this is what we have. Adsos Letter Nov 2016 #2
The same thing he proposed to Kasich. You do the hard work and I'll COLGATE4 Nov 2016 #5
Instead, he's listening to Flynn and Bannon. PearliePoo2 Nov 2016 #3
Makes sense that they man who'll be actually running the country.... Txbluedog Nov 2016 #4
He just is totally mentally unfit bdamomma Nov 2016 #6
Pretty much Herr President Buffoon IMO. n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #28
But of course! HassleCat Nov 2016 #7
Perhaps for the better. Dawson Leery Nov 2016 #10
I agree, Pence makes Reagan look progressive but he is not insane and he knows how to govern. jg10003 Nov 2016 #38
we have two evils here bdamomma Nov 2016 #42
his ignorance and hubris makes him so fucking dangerous spanone Nov 2016 #15
Reminds me of the Simpsons Movie RoccoRyg Nov 2016 #16
He is too busy beckoning people to kiss his ring. n/t OhioBlue Nov 2016 #19
He gets it all from memes on social media RB TexLa Nov 2016 #21
Trump never wanted to BE the President. Beartracks Nov 2016 #22
I don't think he ever thought he would be elected. It was a fun stunt for him and ego building. Now, RKP5637 Nov 2016 #29
Trump already knows more than all the generals Martin Eden Nov 2016 #23
I remember a nitwit that ignored a PDB in August 2001 and the result was 9/11. roamer65 Nov 2016 #24
He doesn't need them. Beartracks Nov 2016 #26
During the campaign, didn't Trump say he'd delegate the fiddly bits to Pence because Trump's job.... Hekate Nov 2016 #27
His son was talking to Kasich's and offering Kasich the vp job and said applegrove Nov 2016 #31
That was it Hekate Nov 2016 #33
I'm starting to think that he's using his family as intermediaries so he can disavow anything they bettyellen Nov 2016 #35
Tell him to say the data aloud while writing it down, and then type it logically. raging moderate Nov 2016 #30
PS I know that I should not be President of the United Stattes. raging moderate Nov 2016 #32
Interesting technique!!! Thanks for sharing!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2016 #34
Yes. I had undiagnosed dyslexia but did well in university. I used to take notes applegrove Nov 2016 #36
You have a very inspiring story. My first husband was quite dyslexic... Hekate Nov 2016 #37
I don't think he has huge narcissistic personality disorder. I think he is just rich, applegrove Nov 2016 #39
Trust him with classified info???? I wouldn't trust that buffoon with sharp instruments!!!! LongTomH Nov 2016 #43

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
1. Trump is delegating the big headache-y stuff to Pence.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:30 PM
Nov 2016

I bet trump can't find half of the countries mentioned on a map.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
11. His dyslexic and has a context dependant memory. If he learnt the map of the most important
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:51 PM
Nov 2016

countries, he could start learning the context.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Thank you my fellow
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:11 PM
Nov 2016

DUer. You nailed it!!!!! We could see coming miles away. Want some interesting reading about this Dupe,read the Transcript from the NY Times meet and greet yesterday. Nothing has changed,still does not want to learn or understand what is really happening.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
14. Yes. He will have to have the intelligence briefings dumbed down for him. Made very
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:25 PM
Nov 2016

concrete. With visual aides like maps. So he can learn them in a 3D way.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
18. Map of the world to que him on the country(ies) involved. Repetative briefings that
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 10:45 PM
Nov 2016

are simple and clear as a bell. Not 4th grade. Kind of like the metadata on foreign affairs the who what and why but not the when and how.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
25. If we could just get him to buy real estate and put his name on a building in every
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:03 AM
Nov 2016

capital of the world, he would know and care.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
41. He's a person who is dependant on the concrete. His is out of his element in
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 03:06 AM
Nov 2016

any complex system created by mankind unless he has years to absorb it. Foreign policy is a complex system.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
5. The same thing he proposed to Kasich. You do the hard work and I'll
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:37 PM
Nov 2016

do the 'Presidenting'. Except here I doubt he ever even asked Pence.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
4. Makes sense that they man who'll be actually running the country....
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:36 PM
Nov 2016

Gets the daily briefings while the figurehead avoids thrm

jg10003

(976 posts)
38. I agree, Pence makes Reagan look progressive but he is not insane and he knows how to govern.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:30 AM
Nov 2016

We can survive 4 years of Pence. Trump is an existential threat to the republic and perhaps the world.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
42. we have two evils here
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:19 PM
Nov 2016

both pence and trump. Pence is a religious fanatic will he say it Gods will if we get attacked.

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
22. Trump never wanted to BE the President.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:17 PM
Nov 2016

This was only supposed to be a publicity stunt, after all, wasn't it? And then it all went horribly wrong, for him AND for us!!

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RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
29. I don't think he ever thought he would be elected. It was a fun stunt for him and ego building. Now,
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:12 AM
Nov 2016

we are all stuck with a disaster.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
27. During the campaign, didn't Trump say he'd delegate the fiddly bits to Pence because Trump's job....
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:06 AM
Nov 2016

...is to make America great?

Brr.

Maybe we're just as lucky that Benedict Donald ISN'T sitting still for the briefings.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
31. His son was talking to Kasich's and offering Kasich the vp job and said
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:12 AM
Nov 2016

that Kasich would be the most powerful vp in history and responsible for foreign and domestic policy.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. I'm starting to think that he's using his family as intermediaries so he can disavow anything they
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:18 AM
Nov 2016

Say or do as needed... kind of like Paulie in Goodfellas, he has his kids running around with messages. His whole strategic operation is lifted from The Art of War, Mein Kamf and The Godfather.

raging moderate

(4,311 posts)
30. Tell him to say the data aloud while writing it down, and then type it logically.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:12 AM
Nov 2016

I have a learning disability, and I was in despair at the end of high school and beginning of college, because I really did want to learn and to do something worthwhile with my life. Then I heard about this technique, and my grades SHOT UP! I was shocked and thrilled! Suddenly I was sitting at the table with the professors and their grad students, and remembering what I had studied. And then I got into grad school and earned a master's degree in a fairly demanding field. If you are young and learning-disabled, don't just give in to it. FIGHT IT! When I had children, I began teaching them about math as soon as they could sit up, at first just difference between 1 and 2 items. I knew I could never help them with their math when they were older, so I'd better help them when I could. They did very well in school and excelled in math. As older teens, they coached me through a college level math course, and I got a B! Really, you never know what you can do if you keep trying and don't give up! I finally had a 35 year career in a very satisfying field where I am sure I helped many people, especially children, and especially poor children.

raging moderate

(4,311 posts)
32. PS I know that I should not be President of the United Stattes.
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:13 AM
Nov 2016

Why doesn't Donald Trump know that he should not be President of the United States?

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
36. Yes. I had undiagnosed dyslexia but did well in university. I used to take notes
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:19 AM
Nov 2016

on my notes and the textbook, then notes on those notes, then again. Cutting them down in size until I had one page left which I would memorize. I also used colored markers. Dyslexia says nothing about IQ. It is just a different way for a brain to work. Dyslexics do well at NASA and MIT because of their 3D thinking. It helps to remember that until 300 years ago few people knew how to read so dyslexia's problems with symbols and words were not an issue. I hope they can figure out a way to brief him that works. And not just on intelligence - though that may be the most important. They gerryrigged a way to inform Ronald Reagan. They should blow the dust off that and see if 'delegation' will work again.

Hekate

(90,837 posts)
37. You have a very inspiring story. My first husband was quite dyslexic...
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:28 AM
Nov 2016

... we met as freshmen in college in the days before there was a diagnosis. I helped edit a lot of his papers -- I could tell he was smart, but he did so badly in K-12 that he was told he would never go to college, much less graduate. He did graduate and ultimately enter a career he found fulfilling.

I like your approach. I myself am a kinetic learner: I take obsessive notes, rather than listening passively, and a lot of times I don't even need to actually reread the notes that keenly to remember them unless the material is really unfamiliar. Fortunately for me, all my high school teachers insisted on every student taking notes, so I learned it early.

Anyhow, as to why Trump doesn't avail himself of the techniques you mentioned: he has never had to, he's always been able to purchase other people's expertise. In addition, he has a yuuuuge narcissistic personality disorder, leading him to believe that no rules apply to him that apply to others.

applegrove

(118,816 posts)
39. I don't think he has huge narcissistic personality disorder. I think he is just rich,
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:06 AM
Nov 2016

selfish and priviledged and a narcissist (different than a narcissistic personality disorder) and never grew up and is in sales (there is a whole culture to sales) and is a celebrity. Those with the actual disorder, which no longer exists, will make you weak and barf they are so warped. Trump is charming by many accounts. Yes he used racism to win but the whole GOP does, they just dress it up all nice and pretty. Yes he is a misogynist. I would not to be anywhere near him. He is certainly not an actualized person which would be the minimum you want in a president. But he used empathy to find out how the GOP base was hurting and play to them all election. He certainly plays to whomever he is talking to as dyslexics do - they meet with a specific person or group and pull up the what where when why of the person they are talking to from their episodic memory. They keep their narratives separate that way. Why Trump chokes every time he talks to the liberal press or the President of Mexico and takes the position of whatever expert or politician he last talked to. A nightmare as a President for sure.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
43. Trust him with classified info???? I wouldn't trust that buffoon with sharp instruments!!!!
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:43 PM
Nov 2016

They should make him eat his thanksgiving dinner with a plastic spork!

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