Hillary needs to run in 2020. She will WIN!

[Table]

Now this is if, IF the recount effort doesn't overturn DRUMPH's election this go around, it is obvious that Hillary will win in 2020!

I was talking to a man who did not vote for Hillary this last election who was angry about DRUMPH's cabinet appointments and said he would vote for HER if he had another chance! I bet a lot of Trump voters are like him, who are waking up to the con and wish they could have voted for our Hillary!

Hillary has been working for her whole life to break the glass ceiling and become the first woman president for ALL AMERICANS!

Please, please Hillary run in 2020 so you will BEAT DON THE CON!

[get the red out]

1. Interesting

[Txbluedog]

2. Let her retire in peace

Her time is past. She seems to be enjoying being nothing but a private citizen now (as private as a former first lady can get) so let her enjoy her life, her grandkids and work for select causes.

[Table]

3. She deserves to be president much more than Don the Con.

A lot of Drumph's supporters now wish they were with HER.

[LanternWaste]

17. It's fun to pretend people have a Best Used By Date.

It's fun to pretend people have a Best Used By Date, but it's an irrational premise at best.

If she decides to retire, more power. If she decides to run, again... more power. But let's not wrap our a premise unsupported by objective evidence that "her time is past" as it reveals mental laziness.

[Gothmog]

99. There is no Best Used by Date for a leader like Hillary Clinton

I hope that she runs again

[el_bryanto]

4. No she really doesn't. We need new blood and new ideas.

Somewhere out there there has to be a better candidate.

Bryant

[LanternWaste]

19. That's a great bumper sticker!

"We need new blood and new ideas..."

That's a great bumper sticker! It says absolutely nothing of any substance, yet is sound-bite-y enough for the half-wits who listen to talk radio.

[Skinner]

5. I love Hillary but she had her chance.

She's not going to run in 2020. Someone else will be the nominee.

[Initech]

6. I'd love to see Bernie take another stab at it.

Age? Didn't stop Jimmy Carter!

[yeoman6987]

24. President Carter was 53 when he was sworn in as president.

[Initech]

27. Really? I thought he was 70.

[Ace Rothstein]

45. He'd be 110 today if that was the case.

[Travis_0004]

57. Nope

In fact, trump will be the oldest person every sworn in as president.

Reagan is second (a few days shy of his 70th birthday)
(Hillary would have been second if she would have won this election)
Then George HW Bush (at 64)(I'm only looking at somewhat recent presidents.)

[otohara]

73. Ugh

Don't think us Hillary supporters will forgive and forget the abuse we were hit with by Sanders supporters.

I would not vote for him.

[white_wolf]

90. I'd say the same thing about us Bernie supporters, but we did vote for Hillary.

[otohara]

93. Not So Much

Millennials of all colors stuck it to us. Worse was the low numbers from young POC. Now members of their own race who are facing the backlash of the Trump effect.

Sanders poisoned millions against the Democratic Party

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

102. Yeah... and now starting to regret it considering all the insults being hurled our way.

[arthritisR_US]

124. That "we" is overinflated to say the least. nt

[Gothmog]

100. Sanders would have been a very weak general election candidate

The GOP had a ton of oppo research on Sanders that Clinton did not use. The Clinton campaign treated Sanders with kid gloves bu the GOP would have destroyed Sanders http://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044

So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.

Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for it—a long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.

Then there’s the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermont’s nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words “environmental racist” on Republican billboards. And if you can’t, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.

Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, “Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die,’’ while President Daniel Ortega condemned “state terrorism” by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was “patriotic.”

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

103. Puh-lease... Bernie is the true light that will show us the way forward.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[arthritisR_US]

125. This isn't some kind of revival meeting and he isn't some kind

of gawd. He was a good salesman for self promotion and nothing more.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

126. You can't be serious... did you listen to Bernie's stump speeches? Hell, he even campaigned harder for Hillary than she did herself.

Bernie has the message that can unite the party and show us the way out of this mess.

[arthritisR_US]

127. He campaigned harder for her than she did for herself..

That's some BS you got going there...next he'll be walking on water. You're living proof of what a good scam artist he is.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

131. Why are you denigrating our candidates?... Instead of tearing Bernie down, you should be helping to keep the revolution going that Bernie started.

You don't have to support Bernie, like that shown among true progressives, but your unwarranted insults are out of line... you owe Bernie an apology.

[elehhhhna]

59. Chances. Had chances.

[LP2K12]

111. Agreed.

[demmiblue]

7. No thank you. Really. n/t

[brush]

8. No. It's time for her to move on. And I'm a supporter

Going through that for the third time?

Nah, let her enjoy her life peacefully out of the line of fire for once in the last 3 decades.

She actually won more votes so that should give her some satisfaction.

[Fast Walker 52]

21. yep.

But I do hope she stays involved in the process and does some political-related work.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

105. I agree... Hillary and Bill deserve some quiet time together, while continuing to do their charitable good works.

[NCTraveler]

9. I would like to see Clinton play a role after our next primary.

A role in helping the primary winner to become elected. That is if she so chooses. I do not want her to run again. That said, I would vote for her in a second in the general. I will vote in the primary for who I want to be Presidents. I would not guarantee my vote to Clinton in the primary. She wouldn't have had it this cycle if O'Malley had a better showing.

K&R because I can never get enough Clinton appreciation and support.

[Calista241]

66. I doubt that'll happen.

Look at how they treat Bill. He gave a few speeches, but he wasn't some giant power broker. I suspect Obama will fill that roll in 2020.

[SaschaHM]

10. The only 2016er that I want to see in the running is Martin O'Malley.

We have a fresh branch of Senators/Governors that we can/should pull from. I like Hillary too much to put her through the hell that is running in a Dem Primary/General election campaign.

[still_one]

11. Hillary won't do it. After all the hate, lies, and abuse she unfairly received why should she

put up with that garbage

The country deserves Trump


(Not the ones that voted for her though, they didn't deserve trump)

[lumberjack_jeff]

12. The problem with the concept of "third time's the charm" is surviving the two failures. n/t

[treestar]

13. I like the idea as she would have run then anyway

for re-election and the buyer's remorse that is going to set in. We should spend the next four saying as how this or that bad occurrence would not have happened with Hillary at the helm, that everything he does would have been done differently and better by Hillary. I hope she is all over the media talking about what she would have done.

[Hekate]

35. Bullshit. See my post 34 downthread. Oh, I'll save you the trouble...

Hillary Clinton did her damndest for this country for 30 years, & her thanks was to be beaten bloody...

...by the VRWC (which existed in 1990 and exists now) -- and now, in a new generation, by people too young to remember where the lies and smears originated, and by the leftier-than-thou and oh-so-pure who will never find a Democrat worthy of them.

Hillary Clinton still won the popular vote by more than 2.5 million votes despite operating in a system rigged to suppress Democrats' votes, a gerrymandered House of Representatives, a media composed of dogs that will yip "Squirrel!" and turn their heads away from the truth, and an Electoral College so broken and archaic it beggars belief.

All the people, Left and Right, who wanted her politically dead have finally gotten their wish. She is now broken, politically speaking, and will never again hold public office. She "owes" us nothing. She already gave everything she had.

As for your possibly apocryphal man: "I was talking to a man who did not vote for Hillary this last election who was angry about DRUMPH's cabinet appointments and said he would vote for HER if he had another chance! I bet a lot of Trump voters are like him, who are waking up to the con and wish they could have voted for our Hillary!" -- He's too fucking late. Everyone who voted for Trump or against Hillary by writing in some nonentity can kiss my rosy Irish ass. They got their wish. The rest of us have to live with the consequences, and so do they.

Oh, sorry, do I sound bitter?

[Marr]

50. You do, but damned if I can figure out why.

You got exactly what you wanted. The DNC steered a much better candidate into a ditch so their chosen candidate, your candidate, could get Her Turn. Her numbers eroded over the course of the campaign, just as they always did, just as everyone not in the fan club said they would, and now here we are with Trump-- while the Clintons retire into vast wealth.

And you think you're the one who should feel bitter?

[metroins]

81. Bernie didn't make it to the general

Nobody steered him anywhere, he ignored key states.

Hillary lost the GE because she ignored key states.

It's not even worth rehashing, nobody steered anything. The buck stops with the candidates themselves. Place blame anywhere we want, but ultimately each candidate is their own reason for failure.

[lapucelle]

83. Hillary was the nominee because she got more votes.

Her numbers started to erode after the October 28 Comey letter, and the ridiculous "DNC conspiracy" narrative has been debunked.

Weaponized votes, like elections, have consequences. The third-party-voter purists and the election day no-shows better get used to the contempt concomitant with putting Trump in the White House. They deserve it.

Us bitter? Hell yes.

[BlueMTexpat]

64. I wish that DU had a "like" button for

posts within a thread. This is one that I can't K&R enough!

[Hekate]

65. Thank you so much for getting it, BlueMTexpat

My heart breaks for her. And the rest of us.

[BlueMTexpat]

97. Mine is still breaking

and it's literally shattering.

[lapucelle]

78. Better slogan: Back by popular demand: 63,000,000 reasons to run.

Come here often?

[jmowreader]

15. No. She would have been a great president, but no.

[panader0]

16. No thanks

Her candidacy has given us a Republican president, Senate and House.
In short, a disaster for the Democratic Party. I remember before the election how
many here were talking about the end of the Republican Party. Instead, the
opposite has happened.

[Hekate]

36. She has 2.5 million more votes than Trump. Too bad about all the GOP vote-rigging and suppression

Too bad about the EC, which favors small rural states suspicious of outsiders -- the outsiders being the majority of us these days.

The disaster was not of Hillary's making.

[yeoman6987]

107. I just don't think Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio are small rural states

They just are large populated states quite frankly.

[Hekate]

114. You are right about that. I'm just saying the proportions are all off.

[jalan48]

43. And a Supreme Court Justice that could help overturn Roe v Wade.

[seaglass]

18. Nope. I do not think she would do it anyway. No Bernie either. n/t

[jmg257]

20. Are we masochistic? Is she?? Ugh to go through all this same BS again?!?

But maybe 3rd time IS a charm.

[Fla Dem]

22. No. She has had her heart broken one too many times.

Hillary Clinton deserves to live out the remainder of her life continuing to fight for the ideals she believes in on her own terms. She does not need the cruel nastiness of politics anymore. She does not need the name calling and the slandering anymore. She will continue to work for women and children, for their lives to be better, but she does not need to run for the presidency again. She needs to enjoy her life, her daughter and her grandchildren (hope Chelsea has another).

I was a strong Hillary supporter in 2008, and a stronger one in 2016. It would break my heart to see her throw herself out on the public stage again, just to have the cretins on the right use her as a pinata and beat her down.

Hillary, take all the damn money you can get making speeches just to rub it their faces.

Live long and prosper Hillary Clinton.

[Hekate]

38. plus 1000

[Marr]

23. You have *got* to be kidding.

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Team Hillary was rejected in 2008, ignored it and forced the issue in 2016, and gave us all Trump.

If this isn't satire, you deserve a gold medal for chutzpah.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

26. she forced nothing. she ran and won. then she got in the GE and lost

while winning the popular vote. no one was forced anything.

[Bucky]

104. Remember, she "lost" but she didn't lose exactly

[Squinch]

30. Forced the issue by winning the primary handily. And SHE didn't give us Trump, stupid voters did.

Some of those stupid voters were spoiled brat Democrats who were "making a point" because they didn't get their primary candidate, though their primary candidate would have been demolished in the general.

[Marr]

49. Forced the issue by winning an incredibly slanted primary.

The DNC did everything they could to tilt things in her favor-- let's not pretend otherwise.

[Squinch]

117. .

[La Lioness Priyanka]

25. hillary is walking around the woods with no makeup on.

she clearly does not intend to stay in public life.

we don't deserve her and she doesnt deserve the malice she gets from us. let her be.

[otohara]

69. She Didn't Deserve The Hate

and you're right we don't deserve her.

I was fortunate enough to meet her in August - got my picture taken w/ her.

She is a lovely human being - I am heartbroken - can't even imagine how she feels.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

71. Yup

[Squinch]

29. I am devastated that she lost. But our country is too sexist to vote for her. We know that now.

[yeoman6987]

108. We saw that with gerodine Ferraro and Sarah plain

Country got quite ready for a female on the ticket.

[tinrobot]

31. She went through hell... you're asking her to go through it again?

I'm not so sure that it is a good idea.

[RelativelyJones]

32. Philoslayer, is that you?

[smirkymonkey]

37. Hmmm, was thinking the same thing.

[Hekate]

39. Things that make you go hmmmm

[JHan]

42. wait we're being trolled?

usually I can detect it ..

[RelativelyJones]

47. I am afraid we are.

[closeupready]

33. If that's the best you think we have, then what can I say.

Sad.

[Hekate]

34. Hillary Clinton did her damndest for this country for 30 years, & her thanks was to be beaten bloody

...by the VRWC (which existed in 1990 and exists now) -- and now, in a new generation, by people too young to remember where the lies and smears originated, and by the leftier-than-thou and oh-so-pure who will never find a Democrat worthy of them.

Hillary Clinton still won the popular vote by more than 2.5 million votes despite operating in a system rigged to suppress Democrats' votes, a gerrymandered House of Representatives, a media composed of dogs that will yip "Squirrel!" and turn their heads away from the truth, and an Electoral College so broken and archaic it beggars belief.

All the people, Left and Right, who wanted her politically dead have finally gotten their wish. She is now broken, politically speaking, and will never again hold public office. She "owes" us nothing. She already gave everything she had.

As for your possibly apocryphal man: "I was talking to a man who did not vote for Hillary this last election who was angry about DRUMPH's cabinet appointments and said he would vote for HER if he had another chance! I bet a lot of Trump voters are like him, who are waking up to the con and wish they could have voted for our Hillary!" -- He's too fucking late. Everyone who voted for Trump or against Hillary by writing in some nonentity can kiss my rosy Irish ass. They got their wish. The rest of us have to live with the consequences, and so do they.

Oh, sorry, do I sound bitter?

[NightWatcher]

40. 3rd time's the charm? Screw the glass ceiling and elect a candidate who can help women & minorities

How would she get voters she didn't get this time?

[Motley13]

41. She will be 73, so I say no

we need some young blood. Another Kennedy or Obama type, preferably female.

I'm sure Hillary will do some great things, look at Jimmy Carter.

[Bucky]

44. Nice try, newbie. Nice try.

[Calculating]

46. Nope!

We need some new blood. How about a youthful, fresh, energetic candidate without all the baggage Hillary had? Bernie will be too old in 2020, so a younger replacement might be good. If they run Hillary again in 2020 we might end up with 4 more years of Trumpster...Assuming we even make it through 4 relatively unscathed.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

48. Oh, for Christ's sake no!

She ran a terrible campaign in 2008, this year her campaign wasn't much better. And if the DNC hadn't done their damndest to insure she'd get the nomination, if the media had payed any attention at all to Bernie Sanders, she'd have lost to him.

Perhaps vastly more to the point, and someone you Hillary Forever! types need to wrap your brains around, is that most of the people who voted for Donald did so because they were tired of the same old same old. They didn't care a flying fuck if Trump was qualified, but they new they did not want another Clinton or another Bush or another establishment politician in charge.

And yes, she did get quite a few more votes in the end than Trump, but the Electoral College system has been around since the beginning, so I can only blame Hillary and her campaign in the end for the loss. Not Bernie. Not the mainstream media. But she, herself.

You are completely delusional if you think that she could win in 2020.

And frankly, she is too old. She looks old and tired and should enjoy her golden years.

Elizabeth Warren would be a vastly better choice than Hillary Clinton in four years. Yeah, I know that Warren is all of two years younger, but she looks a good fifteen years younger. Have no idea why, but she does.

Better yet, let's start cultivating younger people who could be the future of this country, not all those senior citizens.

[Table]

56. Wow I mean could you BE any more mysogynistic?

Too old. WOW!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

61. Yeah. Too old.

So is Donald Trump, by the way.

But the essential point is she's lost twice. Third time won't be the charm. Keep in mind that Trump will be running as the incumbent. Or if he's impeached before then, his successor, presumably Pence, will be running as incumbent. Most of the time the incumbent has a huge advantage, so much so that the times the incumbent lost are notable.

In 2020 we will want the strongest possible non-establishment figure we can possible put up. Bernie Sanders would be good, but he will likewise be too old. Even Elizabeth Warren, for all looks so much younger than Hillary (and that difference in appearance really ought to give more people pause) may strike people as also too old. That's assuming she'd even consider running.

Our best hope is to cultivate people currently about thirty-five or so to look in the direction of running for President.

I'm a 68 year old woman myself, so I'm not exactly throwing out a young person's prejudice here, but rather a clear understanding of how we slow down as we age. And at that, I'm constantly annoyed at my age mates who can't stay up past 9pm, or can't eat anything after about 5pm or they're up all night and all sorts of crap like that. I keep on wondering how they got so old.

If we, as a country, are really, really lucky, Trump will either resign early on or be forced out of office because of clear malfeasance. And Pence will select someone not another right-wing troll as his VP, and maybe Pence will screw up mightily. But I don't hold out much hope for any of that. In short, we are all screwed for at least the next four years. Possibly the next eight.

Plus, I do wish people would stop tarring any and all criticism of Hillary Clinton as misogynist. The woman has plenty of flaws. Pointing them out is valid.

[lapucelle]

77. Sanders will likely be too old?????

He's 75 now.

Is there a reason why Hillary would be too old at 73, but Sanders was not too old at 74-75 and would only "probably be too old" at 79?

There sure is.

[TrollBuster9090]

51. Interesting idea, but my dream ticket for 2020 is OBAMA/HAGAN

Obama is only constitutionally forbidden from being President for three CONSECUTIVE terms. If he takes a break in the middle, he's fine to come back, and he'll still be in his 50s.

I think it would just be so sweet for Obama to put Trump in his place with a very stark contrast between the two of them.

[Ms. Toad]

60. You might want to read the 22nd amendment.

Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

The word "consecutive" is not part of the amendment.

[TrollBuster9090]

63. Fair enough. Switch the ticket and put Hagan at the top.

Then let the SCOTUS argue about whether the text meant President AND Vice President without saying so.

[Calista241]

67. He can't be in the line of succession either. n/t

[dumbcat]

74. Where does it say that in the Amendment?

It says "... elected to the office of president ..." Nothing there about succession.

[Calista241]

84. The 12th Amendment says:

"But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

[TrollBuster9090]

85. Dumbcat is right, and I think the snake just found its own tail.

The 22nd Amendment says a person is not eligible to be ELECTED President more than twice, and in the line of succession (12th) he would become President without having been elected as such.

[dumbcat]

86. But a former two term President is not Constitutionally ineligible

to the Office of President, only ineligible to be "... elected ..." to the Office of the President. Ascension by succession is not addressed at all and thus not prohibited.

If the circumstance arose I am sure someone would push it to the Supreme Court. I am pretty confident as to how they would rule.

[TrollBuster9090]

95. Not that it matters, but there are lots of legal scholars who agree with us.

For example, the argument was made back in 2000 for an Al Gore/ Bill Clinton ticket, before Gore chose dipshit as his VP candidate.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dorf/20000731.html

[Amishman]

52. nope nope nope

lets change course

[TSIAS]

53. John Kerry deserved to be president

So did Al Gore.

Unfortunately, life isn't always fair. Hillary Clinton will never be president.

[Raine]

54. NO, absolutely NOT! nt

[Maven]

58. I wouldn't ask her to go through that again.

She was treated horribly in this election. I mean Trump's behavior was abusive. And many in her own party didn't treat her much better. I would rather see her enjoy retirement and work on the Clinton Foundation - maybe with a renewed emphasis on electing more women to leadership roles around the world.

[BlueMTexpat]

62. Unless there is some miracle and

she is declared the winner in 2016, she will NOT run again in 2020. She gave this run her all and was subjected to more vitriol and abuse - even by so-called Dems - than any other Presidential candidate in history.

Some people - especially newbies to the political process - have never realized how difficult it was to persuade her to run in 2016. Groups actually began organizing as early as 2013, literally begging her to run. She knew exactly what it would entail and what she would be subjected to. She won't be letting herself in for that again.

We had our chance and we apparently lost - even though we were in the majority.

[StevieM]

72. Excellent post. There has been so much revisionism about HRC's decision to run,

as if she did something selfish simply by running for president.

She was pressured to run, because in 2014 she was the only Democrat beating Republicans in the early polling.

She was expected to run since she was polling in the mid-60s in the early primary polling, unprecedented in American history.

And it seemed to make sense since she was so popular during her four years as Secretary of State.

Nobody could have predicted how much success the Republicans would have at selling the fake email scandal.

Besides, you can only imagine what kind of McCarthyite lies the Republicans had in store for Bernie Sanders or Martin O'Malley.

[Alex4Martinez]

68. On her own her chances would have been better.

I think Bill's legacy brought her down.

Not the scandals thing but the NAFTA thing and the other things that were pro-business but not so good for workers.

She, by herself, doesn't own any of that but it's inextricably tied to her and did not help her chances.

JMHO.

[Yo_Mama]

70. Nobody will stop her from running, but I don't think she'll win the primaries.

She's lost twice already, she's got baggage, she's going to be very old for a first-term president in 2020, and I think many in the party are looking for a new face to carry a somewhat different message to the voters.

But hey, it's about the voters, not my opinion. She can run. She's got years to consider it.

I don't think she'll get the same type of money from the donors, so that's one thing to consider.

[GoneOffShore]

75. Did you forget to use the sarcasm font?

Please tell me that you forgot to use the sarcasm font.

It is my fervent hope that the Clinton's go back to making pots of money, speaking up for poor, put upon billionaires and stay out of political life.

[Jersey Devil]

76. Hillary should have fun now, makes lots of money, be a terrific grandparent, take cruises

She's done enough.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

80. SUPERB

trolling! ... (hi, jury)

[A-Schwarzenegger]

119. like i said...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=339125

[DonCoquixote]

82. She and Obama can do a lot of good as support

but we do need to figure out what the new approach is. Perhaps Liz Warren, Perhaps Tulsi gabbard, but something that says we have adapted and overcome.
Though even the freshest fruit will spoil if we do not return to the 50 state strategy. THE DNC needs new blood because we have bled too many governors, senators, and congress under the current regime.

[Laffy Kat]

87. She's tried twice and it hasn't happened.

She gave it everything she had and I'm sure it shortened her life. Let her rest. It should be a woman, though. Absolutely.

[TrollBuster9090]

88. How's THIS for an idea?

Obama plunks Hillary into the Supreme Court as a Recess Appointment on January 5th! I'd love to see the fireworks.

[Calista241]

92. He probably can't.

The Supreme court said congress must recess for more than 3 days, and the Senate is unlikely to recess for that long before the new Senate and new President are seated.

[TrollBuster9090]

94. I believe he can. The new Senate is sworn in on Jan. 3rd, and Obama's there until Jan 20.

If he puts in a recess appointment, he/she would probably be there for two years, until the NEXT Senate is sworn in. And that Senate just might be controlled by Democrats.

I think that would be entirely fair, given that the Republicans basically stole the official nomination from Obama.

[gollygee]

89. Nope, we need to find someone else

And not Bernie either. Someone a bit younger.

[TuslaUltra]

91. I wish that were the case, but she's not getting younger, and at that age, unless you're running for

re-election, its over.

[joshcryer]

96. I think she should run just because of the nuttiness it'll create.

[Gothmog]

98. I would vote for and support her

[DetlefK]

101. Wrong. What the Democrats need is someone like Warren and Sanders.

Trump will let the white working-class voter down. Warren and Sanders can take Trump's anti-establishment rhethoric and collect those same voters with the same tactic.

[JustAnotherGen]

106. I love HRC but not again

Next time - I want new blood. No more Boomers. My caveat would be the Gen Xer (we're old enough to run) select someone like Warren or Sherrod Brown for VP. Brown gets the working class - and Warren gets the middle class on financial acumen.

[SidDithers]

109. Welcome to DU...

Sid

[Lithos]

110. No, she needs to pass the mantle

This also applies to Bernie

20/20 needs a different set of faces. Hillary and Bernie have a place as elders of the party.

L-

[sylvanus]

112. So we've learned nothing, All Hail Emperor Baron Trump! n/t

[Puha Ekapi_2]

113. Somehow....

...I don't think this is a really good idea. Besides, Mrs. Clinton is likely, and rightfully, sick of having a bullseye on her back and would enjoy nothing more than some peace and quiet. Can't say I would blame her one bit.

[Seeking Serenity]

115. Excellent! She'd be our first female Adlai Stevenson.

Another glass ceiling shattered.

[QC]

121. William Jennings Brian lost three times,

so there's another record to beat here.

[saltpoint]

116. This was her last shot. eom

[fwgmaryland]

118. Yes!!!

She is so qualified, and after the four years I'm sure we will have under Trump, even his supporters will be eager to vote for her!

[QC]

120. Don't threads by posters who get MIRTED face automatic delete?

Or has that changed?

[Hekate]

122. MIRT will catch up, never fear. I'm just glad the nitwit is gone. Good grief.

[backscatter712]

123. No, she's done.

Let's find someone who's actually progressive, and actually capable of inspiring people.

[Buns_of_Fire]

128. I didn't think the 2020 campaign would start until at least January 22 or so.

But, what the heck. Might as well get an early start.

[JI7]

129. TROLL

[BlueProgressive]

130. NO! Better we nominate someone without the baggage.