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This ad!!! Whoa! (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Dec 2016 OP
Wow, I have goosebumps after watching that. Never expected OnDoutside Dec 2016 #1
Well done! Dem2 Dec 2016 #2
Wow! Loryn Dec 2016 #3
Powerful. MissB Dec 2016 #4
Oh my....goosebumps and tears. Excellent ad. livetohike Dec 2016 #5
K&R. nt DLevine Dec 2016 #6
That was a gut punch. Raine1967 Dec 2016 #7
Thank you for this, my dear grits...wow. Powerful. Moving. Scary. Eye-opening. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2016 #8
OMG ... I don't know what to say ... thank you so much for posting this etherealtruth Dec 2016 #9
EXCELLENT AD!!!! heaven05 Dec 2016 #10
Holy Shit! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41
Intensely powerful. suffragette Dec 2016 #11
Jesus. That was incredible. And sad. And terrifying. nolabear Dec 2016 #12
could you please do a link jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #13
Here's a link: LisaM Dec 2016 #16
Yeah. Wow, just wow. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #14
Oh. My. God. LisaM Dec 2016 #15
The one and only Alex Jones nbsmom Dec 2016 #22
WOW bdamomma Dec 2016 #17
I expect this to go viral lunatica Dec 2016 #18
Thanks so much billh58 Dec 2016 #19
K & R democrank Dec 2016 #20
Speechless. Powerful. SticksnStones Dec 2016 #21
wow. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2016 #23
What's it about? JohnnyRingo Dec 2016 #24
The short version MissB Dec 2016 #37
"But I need it to protect myself!" baldguy Dec 2016 #25
I am stealing "Trumpist Dumbfuckistan." rzemanfl Dec 2016 #27
Be my guest. baldguy Dec 2016 #46
The saddest, saddest thing about this is... TygrBright Dec 2016 #26
Did you read Dylan Klebold's mother's book? MichMary Dec 2016 #28
teenagers are as opaque as they can make themselves, especially mopinko Dec 2016 #35
My heart goes out to any parent in this situation MichMary Dec 2016 #42
it is terrible. mopinko Dec 2016 #43
Here's the article for folks who missed it TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #54
With the Klebolds yes... with the Harris's? not so much... the garage was a complete mess and smell uponit7771 Dec 2016 #48
That was frightening. boston bean Dec 2016 #29
k trof Dec 2016 #30
I've been trying to analyze the gut-punch I got NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #31
My heart dropped! Very effective ad ecstatic Dec 2016 #56
Now how far can this go??? a kennedy Dec 2016 #32
Geez. One can never know. benld74 Dec 2016 #33
Took my breath away. This is what happens. MontanaMama Dec 2016 #34
Dear AGG... DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #36
so sorry to hear... I can only imagine what you felt Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #39
so sorry to hear... I can only imagine what you felt Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #40
holy fucking wow Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #38
That was really good JDC Dec 2016 #44
Damn. Kablooie Dec 2016 #45
The message here is very very loud and no one raised their voice uponit7771 Dec 2016 #47
VERY well done. Excellent points made. nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #49
And I almost passed it by..... Lifelong Protester Dec 2016 #50
Jaysus. Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #51
Holy cow! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #52
shared on facebook Thanks eom LittleGirl Dec 2016 #53
Notice the standard cadre of gun humpers have absented themselves from this thread. baldguy Dec 2016 #55
What I got from this ad: It's not just about guns. There are lots of opportunities for intervention RedWedge Dec 2016 #57
Amazing! MarianJack Dec 2016 #58
Wow workinclasszero Dec 2016 #59
Well I am goddam confused .... Shoonra Dec 2016 #60
FFS! Are_grits_groceries Dec 2016 #62
Yes, you are confused. And there's no excuse for it. baldguy Dec 2016 #64
K&R... spanone Dec 2016 #61
Watched it twice tiredtoo Dec 2016 #63
Incredible WiffenPoof Dec 2016 #65

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
24. What's it about?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:38 PM
Dec 2016

I don't want to watch it if it doesn't interest me or if it's graphic.

Your subject line is pure click bait.

MissB

(15,805 posts)
37. The short version
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:16 PM
Dec 2016

Is guy meets girl sort of - in high school. The subtext of the ad isn't something I will spoil. It's incredibly well done.

Edited: no blood or guts. I suppose it's implied but definitely not shown.

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
27. I am stealing "Trumpist Dumbfuckistan."
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:50 PM
Dec 2016

We live in a kleptocracy, so tough beans. I will reconsider if you PM me the copyright.

I just had the horrid thought that I live in "Lower Trumpist Dumbfuckistan!" Ick.

TygrBright

(20,758 posts)
26. The saddest, saddest thing about this is...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:47 PM
Dec 2016

...the implication that we need to address the issues of young people who are bullied, feeling alienated, isolating themselves in a world of terrible fantasies, and sliding into mental illness...

...because guns.

It wouldn't be quite so sad, if that kind of appeal had actually shown any signs of working in the past ten years.

broken-heartedly,
Bright

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
28. Did you read Dylan Klebold's mother's book?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:54 PM
Dec 2016

I remember well the Columbine massacre, because my two sons were in high school, and I was very much aware that it could have happened anywhere.

I seriously thought at the time that there was no way that the signs could have been missed, but after reading Sue Klebold's book, I guess I'm not so sure. There were numerous little things, but the parents were rigidly anti-gun, they spent time together as a family, were extremely concerned, etc.

I came away with an entirely different opinion.

mopinko

(70,086 posts)
35. teenagers are as opaque as they can make themselves, especially
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:10 PM
Dec 2016

when they are in pain, and swirling about in rebellion.

i have a daughter that worried me enough. if she had been a son, i would have been frightened, but i would have had no idea what to do. i had no idea as it was.
not sure there is much harder than raising a mentally ill child.
kid is doing fine now, but for a while there, i slept w one eye open.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
42. My heart goes out to any parent in this situation
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:32 PM
Dec 2016

The mother of a mentally ill son wrote an article after the Newtown tragedy, in which she detailed the lengths she had gone to, trying to get help for a son she truly felt was on the same path as Adam Lanza. Our mental health system is seriously broken, and no one seems to have much idea of how to fix it.

I'm glad your daughter is doing well. Must be a huge relief to you.

mopinko

(70,086 posts)
43. it is terrible.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:47 PM
Dec 2016

i remember trying to find an adolescent shrink, and having to wait months once i finally see one. god knows they are saints, but there just arent enough of them, even in a metro area like chicago.
still cant believe we made it without having to check in to the er, which was the only way around the wait.

its a special hell, made worse by the fact that this shit runs in families, and i am not the most tightly nailed together person out there.
ex's family is a couple cherries short of a pie, too.

and lordie knows the therapists all still love to bash mom. oy. dear lord was it hard.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
48. With the Klebolds yes... with the Harris's? not so much... the garage was a complete mess and smell
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:23 PM
Dec 2016

... of gasoline

and this

The papers also further document Eric's now well-known preoccupation with Nazis, Charles Manson and Napalm.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
31. I've been trying to analyze the gut-punch I got
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:03 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Sat Dec 3, 2016, 02:25 PM - Edit history (1)

from that ad. I think it's because the ad took me there. It made me actually feel in my very being what students, workers, others, felt when their very ordinary days were interrupted. I felt the gut-wrenching fear, the knowledge that yes, this could be the end of my life, or the lives of people I care about.

Wow.

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
56. My heart dropped! Very effective ad
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:39 AM
Dec 2016

Almost like that horrible Facebook and driving ad (car crash with mom and her young daughter).

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
34. Took my breath away. This is what happens.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:09 PM
Dec 2016

I just had my 11 year old son watch this. He's an observant thoughtful kid. I asked him to keep his eyes open during his day - notice things - and don't blow them off as seeming unimportant.

I took a 50% cut in pay for a job that enables me to be home with my child after school. I sometimes think about the loss in income vs the time with my son. There is no question that being with him to hear about the details of his day and bus trip home are priceless.

I think of the parents who have lost their babies in a senseless school shooting and I have no words. What has happened to us?

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
36. Dear AGG...
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 09:14 PM
Dec 2016

This is very powerful. I understand you probably want the gut-punch effect, and I understand why, but could you put a trigger warning up please? Please.

I am the survivor of a school shooting incident, and this was triggering as all fuck. In a really kind of awful way.
Please.

Thank you,
DLO

RedWedge

(618 posts)
57. What I got from this ad: It's not just about guns. There are lots of opportunities for intervention
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 11:49 AM
Dec 2016

all along the line: better funding for and destigmatization of getting help for mental health; changing the culture of violence through governmental, private and nonprofit work to break the cycle of violence in families; respecting anti-bullying initiatives instead of laughing them off; fixing our child welfare infrastructure; funding education in a way that fewer kids fall through the cracks and they all get the help they need.

Shoonra

(521 posts)
60. Well I am goddam confused ....
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 03:41 PM
Dec 2016

Evidently vandalizing the library table top repeatedly is healthy, and sitting quietly at a computer station, listening to something with headphones, and reading intently is sinister.

What are the chances we're gonna spot the would-be shooter? For all we know, he gets better grades than the bored student who's carving up the table top.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
62. FFS!
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 04:22 PM
Dec 2016

That's the point. You never know.
You might think the "vandal" would be a potential problem and not the other kid. And grades are not always a sign. There may be other clues if you pay attention.

I taught school. If you pay attention, there are a lot of things going on with kids. A lot are innocuous and some need a little attention. You don't announce it over the intercom but you talk to a counselor or a parent. You ask questions and you point out your observations. You learn to do it in a way that hopefully won't set the parents off. You are not making accusations.

Your attitude and observation is exactly the problem. Impatience and a seeming demand to make everything flash red. Teens and pre-teens are great kids. They are also changing in many ways and it takes a lot for parents to handle that age. More training for teachers and help for parents would be nice.

Anymore helpful observations?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
64. Yes, you are confused. And there's no excuse for it.
Sat Dec 3, 2016, 05:35 PM
Dec 2016

The first was trying to make a connection with a fellow human being, the second was dehumanizing & objectifying his fellow human beings, deciding which of those targets he'd kill first.

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