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Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:11 PM

3 voters disfranchised in WI recount just to avoid official embarrassment

This shows that WI election officials in New Richmond, WI, would rather disfranchise voters than suffer any embarrassment to themselves.

So three voters got disfranchised when to "compensate" (their word) for the following "problems."

1. They found two absentee ballot ENVELOPES that didn't have ADDRESSES on the WITNESS signatures. Corrupt Wisconsin election law provides that if an address even for just one of two required absentee ballot witnesses is missing then the ballot as a whole gets tossed.

2. These two ballots didn't get tossed, they got placed in with other ballots instead (they claim they never looked at these ballots, ahem, but they did look at the envelope so they know WHO these folks are)

3.The problem as these officials see it: Now the number of legal voters is LESS THAN the number of ballots. Or, ballots is greater than voters if you want to put it that way. They think: this CAN NOT STAND.


4. BUT Actually voters and ballots could be considered to be equal with the asterisk that three got in the ballot box that technically shouldn't under corrupt and technical Wisconsin rules, but their decision not to look at it this way, plus their "compensation" that follows shows how rigidly committed the Wisconsin election code, as interpreted by these folks, is about disfranchisement for technical errors.

5. The New Richmond Wisconsin election officials decide that the number of legal voters must be reduced by three, because they find three problems (two with missing address for witness and one that was never counted and which they added to the ballots).

6. Their "solution" is to "randomly" remove two ballots (as seen on the video in the link below), and for the Extra ballot they are adding that was never counted before they remove a ballot with no presidential vote (item an undervote).

7. They can't find which ballots were "illegally" allowed so they randomly pick two ballots from a small stack, and two unknown people are totally disfranchised for the recount.

Three unknown people are disfranchised, all to force the books to balance and prevent embarrassment for the election officials. The chances are higher than 99% that the persons disfranchised are not the ones who had witnesses that omitted their signatures.

The officials claim they don't look no at the ballots when they open them. That is BS. It might sometimes be true but not all the time.

So chances are an absentee came in either from a person they know or with votes they like. They let the address for the witnesses problem slide. Unexpected scrutiny comes up in the form of a recount process, so they say oops and randomly disfranchise two others instead.

Result: They have allowed two "illegal votes" and counted one additional legal vote never counted before, and also disfranchised three legal voters as "compensation." (the two random ones, plus the removed undervote, since an undervote is still a vote and probably a protest non-vote that has a right to be counted as zero on the Presidential race. )

But they avoid the embarrassment of ballots exceeding legal voters (a situation that repeats in numerous small Wisconsin towns as Richard Hayes Phillips has found)

And it's fairly certain that the disfranchisement of innocents for the "crime" of witness addresses missing will not result in any consequences for these election officials.

This also gives their recount a cushion of several votes so if it changes the result by just a few votes it will be ambiguous if it was machine error or the result of this disfranchisement shell game.

Watch the minute and a half of video to see innocents disfranchised. They committed no election law technical mistake whatsoever and yet still lose their ballots totally!


http://theuptake.org/2016/12/02/ballots-randomly-removed-from-wisconsin-recount/

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Reply 3 voters disfranchised in WI recount just to avoid official embarrassment (Original post)
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KewlKat Dec 2016 #5
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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:15 PM

1. New Richmond?

 

Or St Croix County?

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:18 PM

2. New Richmond is located within St Croix County. Nt

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Response to Land Shark (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:30 PM

3. Yes, I lived there.

 

I wonder who made that call. New Richmond city officials, or St. Croix County election officials.

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Response to HassleCat (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:36 PM

4. Republican or democrat?

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Response to Land Shark (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:42 PM

5. I don't understand why we have ANY absentee ballots thrown out for missing addresses.

On Oct 7, 2016 , the STATE Elections Commission came out with the following -

MADISON, Wis. (AP) --Thousands of mailed absentee ballots missing address information might not count in Wisconsin.

The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that a bill Gov. Scott Walker signed in March requires absentee ballots to include the full address of a witness.

Milwaukee Election Commission Executive Director Neil Albrecht tells the newspaper that the commission has received about 400 ballots where witnesses included only partial address and he expects to receive hundreds more with partial address ahead of Election Day. Racine officials say that city has received about 200 ballots with partial witness addresses.

The state Elections Commission has advised clerks to contact the voters and get consent to complete the witnesses' address.

Copyright 2016: Associated Press



So if any ballots are still missing witness addresses someone didn't follow directions.

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Response to KewlKat (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 10:11 PM

6. Interesting they were directed to call and find witness address information

Just showing even more starkly that innocent voters were disfranchised for election official mistakes.

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