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SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 10:54 AM Dec 2016

NPR's On The Media: "Normalize This!" - examines how to report on a PEOTUS who regularly lies

A very interesting listen...there are journalists out there who really do get it!


DECEMBER 2, 2016
Normalize This!
We devote this hour to a question put to us pretty much daily since election day: How to cover President Trump? First, we ask the AP, Univision, NPR, USA Today, and other news outlets about how they are defining a relationship with a president-elect who flaunts traditional rules, spreads misinformation, and criticizes the press. Then we turn to language. Listeners help us highlight moments in media coverage that obscure the truth, and journalist Masha Gessen warns of the "impulse to normalize." Plus, linguist John McWhorter describes the phenomenon of partisan words, and cognitive scientist George Lakoff argues that the principles of journalism need to be redefined... because of how our brains work.


http://www.wnyc.org/story/on-the-media-2016-12-02/


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NPR's On The Media: "Normalize This!" - examines how to report on a PEOTUS who regularly lies (Original Post) SticksnStones Dec 2016 OP
On the media mistakes flaunts for flouts? marybourg Dec 2016 #1
Good catch...one I certainly overlooked. nt SticksnStones Dec 2016 #4
Since the election, NPR has been very good with substantive analysis of what might happen over wiggs Dec 2016 #2
They've also been cheerleading for Trump n2doc Dec 2016 #5
must have missed it rurallib Dec 2016 #6
Everyone on DU would find this a worthwhile listen! Particularly the last one, on how our brains JudyM Dec 2016 #3
"cognitive scientist George Lakoff argues that the principles of journalism need to be redefined" 90-percent Dec 2016 #7
well NPR heaven05 Dec 2016 #8
"On the Media" is my..... Ernesto Dec 2016 #9
Agreed. They always provide a rational analysis of the week's news. teamster633 Dec 2016 #14
NPR has become,,, Cryptoad Dec 2016 #10
Well, they're not DU; marybourg Dec 2016 #13
Their Board of Control jack69 Dec 2016 #17
Alt Media shadowmayor Dec 2016 #11
You know the expression throwing the baby out with the bathwater? SticksnStones Dec 2016 #15
There are selected portions shadowmayor Dec 2016 #16
"impulse to normalize" Paladin Dec 2016 #12

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
1. On the media mistakes flaunts for flouts?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:34 AM
Dec 2016

I guess that's the end for the verb "flout" and the beginning of 2 disparate definitions for "flaunt." That's how language changes, I've been told.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
2. Since the election, NPR has been very good with substantive analysis of what might happen over
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 11:42 AM
Dec 2016

the next four years.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
5. They've also been cheerleading for Trump
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:15 PM
Dec 2016

Especially on the so-called- jobs savior crap. Breathless reporting on how grateful the minions are that tRump kept his promise.

No mention of the costs, or the jobs that are going to be shipped out under the agreement. NPR is not our friend.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
6. must have missed it
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:22 PM
Dec 2016

I hear an occasional story slightly critical of Trump.
But I have mostly turned NPR off with their terrible election coverage.

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
3. Everyone on DU would find this a worthwhile listen! Particularly the last one, on how our brains
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 12:04 PM
Dec 2016

unconsciously absorb concepts and their repetition leads us to believe, and how the media needs to take a different approach.

Thanks for posting!

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
7. "cognitive scientist George Lakoff argues that the principles of journalism need to be redefined"
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

I think our long established principles of journalism are just fine. The root problem is that 90% of American MSM is controlled by six for profit corporations. They don't give a rat's ass about "journalism - how quaint"', they're into catapulting the propaganda and mass manipulation of the population so as to turn them in to ever more obedient consumers just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and dumb enough not to realize the system threw them overboard thirty years ago.

Our media simply lies to us so much we've all succumbed to massive BIG LIES, which we have been conditioned to view as CONVENTIONAL WISDOM.

-90& Jimmy

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. well NPR
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

trying to find some progressive chops again, or this just might be a flash in the pan and it will be business as usual as has been since the shrubs Iraq war debacle..

teamster633

(2,029 posts)
14. Agreed. They always provide a rational analysis of the week's news.
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:43 PM
Dec 2016

If NPR would just dump Steve Inskeep and Scott Simon they would be mostly bearable...if still a little too tilted to the right for my tastes...as noted..."fairness" and all.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
13. Well, they're not DU;
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 02:32 PM
Dec 2016

they try to air all sides. I don't always want to hear all sides. I want to hear my side, so sometimes I turn them off when someone is voicing their side. The worst that can honestly be said about them is that they do bend over backwards to be "fair" to the right.

But they're very far from a GOP mouthpiece. There's nothing else on the air that matches their quality. I think they deserve my support and criticism. Both of which I give them.

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
11. Alt Media
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

Just as the racists and supremacists seek a more mainstream acceptance through terms like alt right and super patriots and oath keepers, calling what we have in this country the generic "media" is a misnomer. Ray McGovern has rightly called them the Fawning Corporate Media. And if you think that NPR is doing just fine, you've missed the moving of the "football" to the right side of the field over the last 40 years. The mainstream media has, as a whole, never been very good to begin with.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
15. You know the expression throwing the baby out with the bathwater?
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 03:12 PM
Dec 2016

To devalue all reporting with a broad brush stroke seems to me to play right in to the right wing narrative that all media is the same and none is trustworthy.

I don't buy into that. I think you have to carefully cultivate your trusted news sources.

To say NPR is no longer trusted....well, does that include Terry Gross of Fresh Air? Does that include RadioLab or the work of Ira Glass, Diane Rehm?

On The Media is a weekly program that specifically looks at the actions of the media.

How can one dismiss that effort outright?

shadowmayor

(1,325 posts)
16. There are selected portions
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

NPR does have its good moments. But it's all being brought to us by Koch Bros. and Archer-Daniels etc. The un-funding was by design and the corporate tentacles have worked their way into the marrow of NPR. When's the last you heard of Fukushima on NPR? That's just one glaring example. As Jim Hightower used to crow - tell me about Doug Jones (average American working two part-time jobs, wife is laid off and the kids need braces for their teeth), because the average American could give two hoots in hell about Dow Jones. Listening to Brooks and EJ on Friday afternoons is just another "fair and balanced" nightmare unleashed by Faux Noise and copied by all the rest. Brooks can choke on a turd for all I care, and I don't think his views should be on NPR as they're ridiculous. How about Hewitt on MSNBC? Another Charlie Rose interview with Kissinger or Larry Summers? Puhleeze. Yes our media has declined, and no it was never as elevated as were taught to believe.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
12. "impulse to normalize"
Sun Dec 4, 2016, 01:53 PM
Dec 2016

Such a charitable term for the way the MSM rolled over and played dead with regard to the worst presidential candidate in this country's history. Unforgivable dereliction of responsibility, cutting such a wide swath of slack to a president-elect who is now wiping his ass on a daily basis with the First Amendment.

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