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KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 01:54 AM Dec 2016

July 27th was the day Trump invited Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails...

DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

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July 27th was the day Trump invited Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails... (Original Post) KittyWampus Dec 2016 OP
They got rewarded by the press, by the left, by the GOP, and the FBI leftofcool Dec 2016 #1
"The left"? Cooley Hurd Dec 2016 #10
There was some discussion in the days just before the election... Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #2
I hope you're able to find the article because I really want to read it. hedda_foil Dec 2016 #4
It was newsweek, and as usual the media didn't give Kurt's work much of a look KewlKat Dec 2016 #12
Yes he did say that. HRC called him on it during one of the debates..don't recall his lame reply n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #3
Thank you for this, KW.. is there a link? Cha Dec 2016 #5
Hun, it's a simple quick google. It was reported widely by "real news". KittyWampus Dec 2016 #6
Ah... I do remember it.. thank you. Cha Dec 2016 #7
Cha, Here you go. Also has the video of the Con KewlKat Dec 2016 #13
Thank you, KewlKat! Cha Dec 2016 #14
Just 4 myself, I try to think like a juror making judgment based on actual presented evidence nikto Dec 2016 #8
Here's a piece of evidence for you. From Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff robbedvoter Dec 2016 #9
i have no doubt the evidence exists but would be quite upsetting. uncle ray Dec 2016 #15
they know the individual who hacked into the DNC and Podesta and who he works with. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #16
Yes, but YOU and I don't---That's the point nikto Dec 2016 #18
Freakin ass-ugly anti-American Republican traitors Achilleaze Dec 2016 #11
k&r bigtree Dec 2016 #17

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
2. There was some discussion in the days just before the election...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:06 AM
Dec 2016

That Shitler's mocking of the Gold Star family from the Democratic convention had almost turned Russia away from him. Even they thought he couldn't recover from such a horrible confrontation. There was an article that discussed this; was probably Newsweek or Washington Post.

The article included an excellent timeline of events beginning last spring during primaries, and leading right up through the conventions and to the general election. I think maybe I will need to see if I can find that.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
12. It was newsweek, and as usual the media didn't give Kurt's work much of a look
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:43 AM
Dec 2016

This came out BEFORE the election, but did no good.

Why Vladimir Putin’s Russia Is Backing Donald Trump
By Kurt Eichenwald On 11/4/16 at 5:50 AM


Trump’s behavior, however, has at times concerned the Russians, leading them to revise their hacking and disinformation strategy. For example, when Trump launched into an inexplicable attack on the parents of a Muslim-American soldier who died in combat, the Kremlin assumed the Republican nominee was showing himself psychologically unfit to be president and would be forced by his party to withdraw from the race. As a result, Moscow put its hacking campaign temporarily on hold, ending the distribution of documents until Trump stabilized, both personally and in the polls, according to reports provided to Western intelligence.


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. Ah... I do remember it.. thank you.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 02:28 AM
Dec 2016

DORAL, Fla. — Donald J. Trump said on Wednesday that he hoped Russian intelligence services had successfully hacked Hillary Clinton’s email, and encouraged them to publish whatever they may have stolen, essentially urging a foreign adversary to conduct cyberespionage against a former secretary of state.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

fucking jerkoff

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
8. Just 4 myself, I try to think like a juror making judgment based on actual presented evidence
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 05:28 AM
Dec 2016

And I will never forget this travesty:

“I have here in my hands a list of names.”





If you apply the standards of serving on a jury trial, of evaluating actual evidence,
and deciding if that evidence is convincing beyond a *reasonable doubt*, we are not near that yet in this case.

I know people hate Trump and want to see him go down, any way possible.

Me too, I assure you.


But please use the jury trial standard as a guide.

Try to be "Juror #8" in "12 Angry Men" and really, REALLY look at the evidence presented,
even though most others seem already convinced.

No solid, unequivocal evidence has been presented yet, even though some hearts may yearn for it.
We are still at the "Aluminum tubes and yellowcake Uranium from Niger" stage.
Do you remember all that info and innuendo paraded as evidence?
It all turned out to be BS.

But because the masses followed their passions and stopped asking questions,
Cheney/Bush&Co got their war. All that info flying around about Judith Miller and her
Aluminum tubes and yellowcake Uranium from Niger. And it evoked such passions in the public!

All that fuss. All that worry and fear.
It worked.

And it turned out to be BS (years later, ofcourse, when it was too late).
It was not evidence---It was rumor, it was innuendo, it was bunk.
We know that now.

I have always thought that it was the Conservatives and rightwingers whose emotions
always overruled their intellects, and who could be more easily led by emotion.
We see that again and again, om many issues, and the GOPers just seem crazy in so many areas.

I always thought those more on the left/Liberal/Progressive side were more rational, and better able
to put their emotions aside and look at the facts.

This situation deserves at least as much consideration, if not more.

That a hack occurred is unequivocal, and it is extremely serious, no doubt about that.

But the culprit has not been solidly identified.

Would you convict someone in a hury-trial based on what others claim and hint at,
albeit loudly and insistently?
Or would you want to see ALL the evidence?

That is why I hold myself to the standard of evaluating solid, unequivocal evidence,
beyond a reasonable doubt, or being NOT beyond it, as we do in American jury-trials.

It's still a hung jury.

JMO.

Hate me if you want.

But this post is based on my deepest values, learned from my Brooklyin-born, Union-family, FDR-New Deal Democrat mother
who raised me (she died in the 70s).

She explained the McCarthyism, the civil rights movement, and the other powerful political/social realities
I saw around me as a child in the 50s and 60s.

That wisdom works for me, today.
I don't claim it for anyone else.


Ekla cholo Re



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekla_Chalo_Re

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
9. Here's a piece of evidence for you. From Harry Reid's deputy chief of staff
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 06:34 AM
Dec 2016

on how NYT took active steps to cover up the info from voters. You mat wonder why? Wasn't that interview "fit to print"?
https://twitter.com/AJentleson/status/807443174344036352

uncle ray

(3,156 posts)
15. i have no doubt the evidence exists but would be quite upsetting.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 09:59 AM
Dec 2016

I suspect our intelligence agencies were aware of every move of Comrade Don the Cons campaign and know exactly what happened and who did it. it would be quite explosive news if the election is overturned somehow due to intelligence gained by spying on a presidential campaign. this is quickly going to become a question of where Intelligence draws the line when getting near politicians, and we may find that there is no line.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
18. Yes, but YOU and I don't---That's the point
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:14 AM
Dec 2016

This just seems way too big a deal to make these accusations without really great evidence.

Why?
The crisis triggered could be bigger than 9-11.


I expect the full evidence to be released, assuming it exists.

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