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boston bean

(36,217 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:24 AM Dec 2016

Electors need to award Hillary their vote. Period.

They can do this and they should in light of this election being swayed for Trump.

Hillary won the popular vote, they can use that as justification. Just in case Trumps treason wasn't reason enough.

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riversedge

(70,047 posts)
3. NYC overall: 192k new Clinton votes, 33k Trump. Clinton's national popular vote lead surges to 2.83
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:32 AM
Dec 2016



Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes 12h12 hours ago

Update.




Christopher Hayes Retweeted Dave Wasserman

These updates just get more and more surreal



Dave Wasserman Verified account
?@Redistrict

NYC overall: 192k new Clinton votes, 33k Trump. Clinton's national popular vote lead surges to 2.83 million (2.1%): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/edit#gid=19


https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/807411874983800832

8:29 PM - 9 Dec 2016
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Dave Wasserman Verified account
?@Redistrict

Manhattan: 64k new Clinton votes, 6k new Trump votes.
Bronx: 35k, 3k
Queens: 42k, 11k
Brooklyn: 45k, 8k
Staten Island: 7k, 6k



8:24 PM - 9 Dec 2016
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shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
7. Sigh
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:49 AM
Dec 2016

The nationwide popular vote doesn't matter.

Our current system, the rules in place, are that there are 51 separate elections (includes Washington D.C.) that decide who the president will be.

Every vote in New York and California could go for one candidate meaning it's theoretically possible they could win the popular vote by 12 million or more, yet lose in a electoral college landslide, according to the rules we have now.

I don't like it any more than you do, but it's what we've got.

shadowrider

(4,941 posts)
11. Do I have a better idea? Yes, as a matter of fact I do, several of them
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:26 AM
Dec 2016

1) Not work myself into a frenzy over something that isn't going to happen. You'd be surprised how your life gets better when you do that.
2) Go to work on Jan 20.
3) Look forward to 2018

What COULD happen is the electors not voting for cheeto. What WILL happen is, they will.

Silent3

(15,140 posts)
14. The best scenario, and it's still a long shot, is that enough Republican electors...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:41 AM
Dec 2016

...switch to a different non-Trump Republican to deprived Trump of 270 votes, then the election is determined by the House, which would we can only hope really wants some other Republican besides Trump.

It won't be anyone we like much at all, but at least it could be someone far less dangerous. I never thought the day would come when I would be relieved to hear, for example, "President Romney".

Electors are very partisan. No matter how right and fair it seems to award Clinton the victory, I'd be shocked if even one or two switched from Trump to Clinton rather than a different Republican.

Also hard to swallow, but for there to be a good chance for this to work, House Democrats would have to vote for the alternate Republican instead of Clinton, because there probably wouldn't be enough Republicans with the guts to go against Trump for Republicans alone to ditch Trump.

Fla Dem

(23,573 posts)
16. Even if enough electors did not cast their vote for Trump, many would not cast their vote for HRC.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 12:24 PM
Dec 2016

They would vote for one of the other Republican candidates. HRC would not get 270 electoral votes, Trump would not get enough electoral votes. If no candidate receives 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives will pick the president. Seeing that the House is overwhelmingly Republican, they will just vote for Trump.

What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#no270

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