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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsElectors need to award Hillary their vote. Period.
They can do this and they should in light of this election being swayed for Trump.
Hillary won the popular vote, they can use that as justification. Just in case Trumps treason wasn't reason enough.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)boston bean
(36,217 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)El Mimbreno
(777 posts)instead of party kiss-asses.
riversedge
(70,047 posts)Christopher Hayes ?@chrislhayes 12h12 hours ago
Update.
Christopher Hayes Retweeted Dave Wasserman
These updates just get more and more surreal
Dave Wasserman Verified account
?@Redistrict
NYC overall: 192k new Clinton votes, 33k Trump. Clinton's national popular vote lead surges to 2.83 million (2.1%): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/edit#gid=19
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/807411874983800832
8:29 PM - 9 Dec 2016
71 replies 1,528 retweets 1,748 likes
Dave Wasserman Verified account
?@Redistrict
Manhattan: 64k new Clinton votes, 6k new Trump votes.
Bronx: 35k, 3k
Queens: 42k, 11k
Brooklyn: 45k, 8k
Staten Island: 7k, 6k
8:24 PM - 9 Dec 2016
20 replies 140 retweets 209 likes
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)You're working yourself up for a big letdown.
shadowrider
(4,941 posts)The nationwide popular vote doesn't matter.
Our current system, the rules in place, are that there are 51 separate elections (includes Washington D.C.) that decide who the president will be.
Every vote in New York and California could go for one candidate meaning it's theoretically possible they could win the popular vote by 12 million or more, yet lose in a electoral college landslide, according to the rules we have now.
I don't like it any more than you do, but it's what we've got.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)boston bean
(36,217 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)1) Not work myself into a frenzy over something that isn't going to happen. You'd be surprised how your life gets better when you do that.
2) Go to work on Jan 20.
3) Look forward to 2018
What COULD happen is the electors not voting for cheeto. What WILL happen is, they will.
boston bean
(36,217 posts)shadowrider
(4,941 posts)But I've reached "acceptance".
Silent3
(15,140 posts)...switch to a different non-Trump Republican to deprived Trump of 270 votes, then the election is determined by the House, which would we can only hope really wants some other Republican besides Trump.
It won't be anyone we like much at all, but at least it could be someone far less dangerous. I never thought the day would come when I would be relieved to hear, for example, "President Romney".
Electors are very partisan. No matter how right and fair it seems to award Clinton the victory, I'd be shocked if even one or two switched from Trump to Clinton rather than a different Republican.
Also hard to swallow, but for there to be a good chance for this to work, House Democrats would have to vote for the alternate Republican instead of Clinton, because there probably wouldn't be enough Republicans with the guts to go against Trump for Republicans alone to ditch Trump.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Hillary won, despite Russian interference and Republican treason.
Fla Dem
(23,573 posts)They would vote for one of the other Republican candidates. HRC would not get 270 electoral votes, Trump would not get enough electoral votes. If no candidate receives 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives will pick the president. Seeing that the House is overwhelmingly Republican, they will just vote for Trump.
If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.
https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html#no270