Is there a middle ground on Russia?

[Alhena]

I have no illusions about Russia. They have a fundamentally different culture and outlook on the world, they always have, and they always will. I have no doubt that Russia messed with our election.

At the same time, I also know that the military-industrial complex and its lackeys like John McCain and Lindsey Graham have a vested interest in eternal Cold War.

Is it wrong that part of me wants to see if we can't try to find some middle ground with Russia? They have a few thousand nukes pointed at us- the consequences of really bad relations with Russia can be worse than with any other nation on earth.

Is it wrong to at least try for a certain level of co-existence with Russia?

[stonecutter357]

1. NO

[uponit7771]

2. Hell fuck naw, look up Putin and white nationalism.

[Xipe Totec]

3. middle ground is usually called no-man's-land, or the killing field. nt

[ProudProgressiveNow]

16. +1000

[brush]

4. Are you serious? It's breaking today that they swung the election to trump . . .

and you just want to get along?

No thank you.

[Alhena]

10. LOL, probably not the best day for my post, but 3000 nukes pointed at us ...

is something that transcends a lot of other issues. I wish we could find some way to get that off the list of things to worry about.

[brush]

15. They're not that crazy to launch their nukes as they know we have ours pointed at them too

Which is why they're trying to conquer us without a shot fired by installing Trump.

[spanone]

5. we would be a nice trophy on putin's wall...

[RoccoR2]

6. Did anything come out Friday in the WP that

Did anything come out Friday in the WP that Prez Obama & that gang of senators did not already know?

[KamaAina]

7. Nyet.

Not after this.

[awoke_in_2003]

8. Short of going toe to toe with them...

we have no choice but having a certain level of co-existence with them. Pearl Harbor happened because we were strangling the Japanese with an embargo. We (with the help of OPEC) have been keeping oil prices unnaturally low, in an attempt to cripple the Russian economy. We had to know there would be blowback. It sucks and I am not condoning it, but something was going to happen eventually.

[TrekLuver]

12. It was a well deserved embargo.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. Not saying it wasn't

but a country like Russia isn't going to lay down and take it. They are like all the little countries we like to push around and bully.

[TrekLuver]

9. Putin doesn't want to get along. If he does it's for his own interests He is not a good human being.

[handmade34]

11. No n/t

[underpants]

13. No. Moscovites have long considered themselves deserving of world domination

They are, on much smaller scale, like Redskins VA Tech fans or NY Giants fans - but the Giants fans don't understand how much blind luck featured into it..... on 3 occasions

[Warpy]

14. Maybe, once we get paper ballots counted by human beings

and break up the media monopolies so our media are harder to control.

Don't expect conservatives to cooperate with either of these things.

[MANative]

17. WTF? Middle ground with a fascist regime is akin to being a little bit pregnant.

All or nothing. I'll choose nothing.

[Kingofalldems]

18. Not anymore.

[JTFrog]

20. This is no time to kiss Putin's ass.

Hacking our election is an act of war.

[melody]

21. We may well have no choice if they want to play the nuclear card

[AgadorSparticus]

22. No. You can't coexist with someone who wants total domination.

[Maru Kitteh]

23. No peace

You:







Putin:

[RonniePudding]

24. Not sure the Chamberlain approach would work well with uncle vlad