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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:23 PM Dec 2016

by Robert Reich:'The fact that the CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election

'to help Donald Trump win the presidency bears on the upcoming decision of the Electoral College about whether Donald Trump becomes our next president.

The framers of the Constitution intended that the Electoral College guard against the possibility that a foreign power influences the outcome of a presidential election. In Federalist No. 68, Alexander Hamilton wrote that a major purpose of the Electoral College was to stop the “desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils.” He said that the College would “Guard against all danger of this sort … with the most provident and judicious attention” from the electors.”

The Electors of 2016 should take careful note.'

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by Robert Reich:'The fact that the CIA has concluded that Russia intervened in the 2016 election (Original Post) elleng Dec 2016 OP
Don't expect much. geomon666 Dec 2016 #1
I fear you are right. We just returned from a Laurian Dec 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #2
We'd likely get some other repug, in most scenarios. elleng Dec 2016 #5
We could get runner up Cruz Norbert Dec 2016 #28
If no candidare has 270 electoral college votes, the House selects the president lapucelle Dec 2016 #8
If that group of electors vote for a consensus candidate and... roamer65 Dec 2016 #10
You may well be right about Romney. The only name I heard in the mix lapucelle Dec 2016 #14
I agree I don't want a Rethug in there, but I think that is what we would get. roamer65 Dec 2016 #16
Agree 100%! dae Dec 2016 #18
What sane republican would THAT be ? SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #25
Neither would be legitimate. The ONLY choice is Hillary Clinton. nt duffyduff Dec 2016 #22
I don't think that enough Republican electors would be willing lapucelle Dec 2016 #31
Exactly. It also isn't going to happen unfortunately still_one Dec 2016 #26
I don't think it will happen either. lapucelle Dec 2016 #32
I would totally take Romney over twitler and condsider that a bullet dodged. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #20
#Minority president #PutinsFool JHan Dec 2016 #4
How very prescient! babylonsister Dec 2016 #6
I have read McCain is getting some political napalm ready. roamer65 Dec 2016 #7
i'm bettin there's a sex tape. please dont puke. mopinko Dec 2016 #9
I think you are right. roamer65 Dec 2016 #11
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #17
Live boy or dead girl??? Raster Dec 2016 #27
bloodied girl. mopinko Dec 2016 #34
That rumor has been making the rounds for some time, now. MADem Dec 2016 #30
Trump needs to be investigated and held accountable, blue neen Dec 2016 #24
K&R... spanone Dec 2016 #12
Very interesting. TY for posting /nt think Dec 2016 #13
K&R bdamomma Dec 2016 #15
If this was the 19th century, the electors would do as it instructs ffr Dec 2016 #19
I don't think you can find one Republican in the congress that would vote for Hillary world wide wally Dec 2016 #23
Shit is about to get real....I do think we have entered new territory AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #21
Lets face it workinclasszero Dec 2016 #29
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #33

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
1. Don't expect much.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:28 PM
Dec 2016

The fact that as a society we haven't pulled a South Korea and told this motherfucker "no way are we letting you into the White House" means this is life for the next 4 years.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
3. I fear you are right. We just returned from a
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 10:55 PM
Dec 2016

neighborhood (suburban Atlanta) Christmas party and the Trump supporters are totally oblivious to this development and still expect great things from him.

I'm baffled and disappointed by what I heard, but it served as a reality check for me.

Response to elleng (Original post)

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
28. We could get runner up Cruz
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:27 AM
Dec 2016

in which case we would need to pray before doing anything and everything of substance. In which case Cruz, Pence of Trump...we are so screwed.

lapucelle

(18,249 posts)
8. If no candidare has 270 electoral college votes, the House selects the president
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:00 PM
Dec 2016

from among the top three electoral vote recipients. The House could not name Romney unless he were to get enough electoral college votes to qualify for consideration.

There is talk about a Republican consensus candidate being agreed upon by members of the electoral college to prevent Trump from getting to 270.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
10. If that group of electors vote for a consensus candidate and...
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:07 PM
Dec 2016

Dump goes below 270...then off to the House it goes.

I highly suspect the candidate will be Mitt Romney...Paul Ryan's buddy from 2012.

lapucelle

(18,249 posts)
14. You may well be right about Romney. The only name I heard in the mix
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:23 PM
Dec 2016

was Kasich, but Romney makes more sense, and it would be ironically delicious for Trump to have to vacate his office to make way for President Romney after that uncomfortable meeting over the chi-chi plate of frogs legs last week.

I don't want to see President Kasich or President Romney; I want to see President Clinton and an enacted Democratic platform, but I don't think the electoral college will go that route. At this point, however, given the fact that our country is facing a clear and present danger, the most important thing is to insure that there is no Trump presidency.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. I agree I don't want a Rethug in there, but I think that is what we would get.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:43 PM
Dec 2016

Given the reality in the House.

I'll take a sane Rethug at this point over the insane Dump.

lapucelle

(18,249 posts)
31. I don't think that enough Republican electors would be willing
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:10 AM
Dec 2016

to vote for a Democrat, especially not one whom their leaders have successfully demonized for a quarter of a century. Republicans are good at closing ranks against the opposition party. That's the main reason why Trump, rather than Hillary, is president elect.

lapucelle

(18,249 posts)
32. I don't think it will happen either.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:22 AM
Dec 2016

We no longer have gatekeepers who take their role seriously enough to be true stewards of our democracy.

Look at the press, look at the Republican leadership, look at James Comey. They are nothing if not stunningly self-interested, and they all failed in their duty. The only gatekeeper that remains is the electoral college. They'll fold as well.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
9. i'm bettin there's a sex tape. please dont puke.
Sat Dec 10, 2016, 11:05 PM
Dec 2016

the kgb made it, and the cia has it.
can we start a pool?

Response to mopinko (Reply #9)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. That rumor has been making the rounds for some time, now.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 09:48 AM
Dec 2016

I don't endorse this story, nor do I reject it, but here's some coverage of it. As usual, the twitter comments range from the sublime to the absurd to the hilarious:


http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/01/ex-spy-claims-russia-is-blackmailing-donald-trump-with-an-orgy-sex-tape-6227185/

ffr

(22,669 posts)
19. If this was the 19th century, the electors would do as it instructs
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:19 AM
Dec 2016

But we're in the 21st century and money, greed, and corruption has taken it's toll on our doomed republic. They have little understanding of what their roll is. They only know what's in it for them. Putin wins.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
23. I don't think you can find one Republican in the congress that would vote for Hillary
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:55 AM
Dec 2016

They are NOT real American patriots… they are, above all, Republicans

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
29. Lets face it
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 08:38 AM
Dec 2016

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Any other republican would be more acceptable than the Russian spy that's going to be installed on Jan 20th if nothing changes

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