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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEveryone needs to calm down. The Russian hack story will go away within the next 48 hours.
Nothing is going to be done. No one is going to hold Trump nor the Republican party accountable for this in any way.
marybourg
(12,642 posts)Not.
wcmagumba
(2,892 posts)we all will know nothing, see nothing, feeling sleepy...sleepy...slee....
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global1
(25,285 posts)when they as a Party and the president-elect of their Party - kowtow to the Russians.
What I find interesting is that the Trump supporters would have made mincemeat out of Bernie for being a socialist and yet they tolerate the compelling evidence that Trump is a Putin stooge or a useful idiot.
Nay
(12,051 posts)matter. The only way to wake them up is for a totally RW administration like Trump's to literally enslave and/or starve them -- then, just maybe, they'll figure it out. For a generation, maybe.
BainsBane
(53,093 posts)This has absolutely nothing to do with socialism.
global1
(25,285 posts)Those same uninformed people would have thought Bernie was a Communist.
Many of those same people still associate Russia with being Communist.
It's just a word association game and the Repugs are good at that kind of association labeling.
My gut is that Bernie could have weathered the socialist moniker that they would have tried to label him and discredit him with and would have turned it around on Trump because of his affiliations and love of Putin and Russia.
BainsBane
(53,093 posts)Quite ununecessarily so, in my opinion. His self-identification as socialist is different from the fact that the USSR collapsed 25 years ago.
And as someone who has read a fair bit of Marxist theory and history, I have yet to see a clear definition distinguishing socialism from communism. Members of Communist parties often refer to themselves as socialists.
What might have happened in an alternate reality, however, can't be known since he never got enough votes to make it to a general election.
Jean-Jacques Roussea
(475 posts)0rganism
(23,975 posts)don't see the Fnords!
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Become a flax tycoon.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)his morals may be sadly lax
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)because they can't get accurate information from subordinates. The SNAFU principle, I think, right?
RAW did a lot for my thinking. Very influential.
Don't know if you've ever seen Maybe Logic, if not it's worth a watch if you ever have time:
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Illuminatus and Schrodinger's Cat trilogies changed my life.
I have seen Maybe Logic, but thanks for sharing. Maybe someone else will see it and come to understand OM.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)more important news will clearly take precedence.
Cha
(297,809 posts)wth.. there aren't too many reasons these days.
The m$m is as complicit as putin and the Russian hackers.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"may you live in interesting times"
...sure seems to apply, unfortunately.
malaise
(269,219 posts)is more likely
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Just because we don't know everything going on doesn't mean it has gone away.
We haven't even started yet....
KG
(28,753 posts)der trumpfenfurher!
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)With the attention span and critical thinking skills of a majority of the electorate coupled with asswipes flair for showmanship and cover from a puke congress, it will take a long time to happen and the real damage will have already been done.
We're doomed!!!
nini
(16,672 posts)I see some of them positioning themselves to use this to become party leadership and 'save' democracy.
The GOP are the ones who are going to keep it going.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Not up to you, nor I, nor the GOP.
Solly Mack
(90,792 posts)we'd have the rule of law.
(I slay me)
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)roamer65
(36,747 posts)You don't diss them and walk away untouched.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Trump will have a free pass by the House the Senate and the media.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"Can't have that! Can't have even a whiff of a conflict of interest for someone with a well-connected highly placed gov't position!"
Now it's, like, "Conflict of interest? Pshaaaaaaaaw"
Baitball Blogger
(46,769 posts)If something doesn't happen to give it a reason to grow legs, it probably will just linger in the air like mistletoe in a room full of celibates.
rzemanfl
(29,573 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)what, if anything, will bring the Puppet-in Chief down? I thought that pussygrabbygate was the final nail in his coffin, but obviously I was wrong
kimbutgar
(21,224 posts)rusty fender
(3,428 posts)Sadly
kimbutgar
(21,224 posts)I asked him if he heard of russsian interference in the election. Never heard of it and because I pointed it out he's going to read about it. So it is just not on the radar for non politicial junkies. Watched my local news last night the only mention was of orange hitler denying it and then they moved on. You're right big yawn, no outrage, nothing to see here , move on. Typicial media attitude.
still_one
(92,454 posts)United States refuses to attend security briefings. Delegates it to his VP. Publicly trashes our intelligence gathering agency, without even reading the data himself, and proceeds to make false accusations about the CIA regarding the WMDs in Iraq, when it was the Defense Intelligence Agency, DIA, not the CIA which said there were WMDs in Iraq, along with others in the bush administration.
Michael Flynn, Trump's National Security Advisor, should send warning alarms all over the the place. He has very questionable ties to Putin, and celebrated Putin's propaganda network, Russia Today:
"a rugged-looking man in a tuxedo who less than 18 months earlier had been head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagons powerful in-house equivalent of the CIA. Michael Flynn, now a private citizen after a reportedly disgruntled retirement, was not there to gather intelligence. His attendance at the RT gala, before which he also gave a talk on world affairs, appeared to inaugurate a relationship with the networkpresumably a paid one, though neither Flynn nor RT answered queries on the subject. Flynn now makes semi-regular appearances on RT as an analyst, in which he often argues that the U.S. and Russia should be working more closely together on issues like fighting ISIL and ending Syrias civil war. Russia has its own national security strategy, and we have to respect that, he said in one recent appearance. And we have to try to figure out: How do we combine the United States national security strategy along with Russias national security strategy, despite all the challenges that we face?
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/04/donald-trump-2016-russia-today-rt-kremlin-media-vladimir-putin-213833
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Hope for the best, but little reason to be optimistic at this time.