In your opinion why did Comey help to sabotage Clinton?...

[Locut0s]

And I mean in detail. Sure the short answer may be he's corrupt and right wing and wanted Trump to win and saw an opportunity. He's trash. Indeed I'm sure many here will think the answer is obvious. But I see more than 1 possibility.

So far we haven't heard any real details on the specifics of what the CIA might know other than that those with ties to Russia purposefully handed over Clinton's hacked emails to WikiLeaks and that they have come to the conclusion that this appears to be part of a broader operation to help get Trump elected and Clinton defeated. Of course we don't know who these sources are.

I see 3 possibilities.

1. He's an incompetent buffoon and genuinely thought he was doing right. Or that he wouldn't actually hurt Clinton.

2. Independent of Russia and Trump he wanted to personally help get Trump elected and saw an opportunity after the wiki leaks emails to further tip things in the GOPs favour. This does seem awfully coincidental given the news above.

3. Comey was promised something awfully cushy by Trump to help him get elected. So has been corrupted via Trump. But not directly via Russia. Trump and his friends seem to be the ones more closely connected to Russia.

4. He is a Russian spy and or was flipped and is directly connected with Russia. This last one is particularly dark as it would mean the director of the FBI itself had been directly compromised via international espionage. 3 above sounds almost as bad but might not be if you assume that Comey didn't think there were any connections to Russia and was just willing to sell the country to someone he thought was "just another American candidate".

Which of these or perhaps another reason do you side with right now?

[flamingdem]

1. Don't know but I appreciate the list

and especially the idea the Comey is a Russian spy. That's pretty mind blowing but hey he's acting like a Putin pal

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

2. wasn't it because

agents were going to leak it anyways and he didn't want to be seen as withholding any information in favor of the democrats? He was a buffoon trying to save his ass and seem like he was still in control, and hurting Clinton was no skin off his back either.

Obviously he miscalculated and didn't anticipate the adjacent media circus, hence the second letter.

[pbmus]

6. I agree that he was not part of a conspiracy ... Yet

But with his foreknowledge of Russia's hacking it seems very strange that he would pile on to the negative Clinton train and bring more suspicion to Clinton ... For exactly what purpose...?

I would hope he is just an incompetent figurehead...and not a paid puppet ...

But he has to be credited for helping to bring the 2nd horseman to the apocalypse.

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[uponit7771]

17. +1

[Demonaut]

3. to stop abortions

[BainsBane]

4. He's weak and feared blowback from the House GOP

and he's just a petty party hack. It's pretty clear the FBI has decided its loyalty is to the GOP rather than the country or our constitution.

[underpants]

31. Legacy building, GOP blowback, FBI falling apart

From many articles I've read Comey saw the FBI falling apart and his legacy going with it.

He's one of the longest serving FBI Directors since Hoover. A new building is badly needed and Comey thought he could get his name on it. Then the 30 agents or so unanimously decided that the whole email thing was a big nothing which we all knew. Comey broke protocol and policy giving the press conference in July. He thought that would soothe the GOP and his republican leaning agents. It did neither. He was shunned in the hallways and there were a lot of resignations that he left on his desk. He needed to do something so he released the letter. I doubt that really fixes anything but it was the only tool left in his bag.

He had to know what effect it would have on the election. My wife and I were watching the news that night and she said, "Trump's going to win". The third time she said it I knew it was a real possibility.

I think the letter was a significant part of how it ended but I still say that AIRTIME was 60-70% of it. Put a product in front people that much and enough of them will convince themselves to buy it. We heard ABOUT Hillary a lot but only FROM her 4 times.

The other factors making up the 30-40% were:
The Russians
a 5% BREXIT vote that included F THEM votes, joke votes, and "She's already won" votes
Gary Johnson/Stein votes but were not sure how those would have gone otherwise
The stumble
BLM especially the Dallas shooting of cops
Hillary's campaign but given the massive win in popular vote and that she still got as many votes as Obama I don't think that was a major factor. It was a very well run campaign and she continually improved as a candidate.

[BainsBane]

35. What do you mean by the stumble?

[underpants]

44. 9/11 stumble due to pneumonia

It had to scare a lot of people.

[BainsBane]

50. Seriously?

Good God. Do we live in a country full of immortals that have never gotten sick in their lives? How ridiculous.
I suppose it's possible it had an influence, but if so it is a function of the epic level stupidity of those voters.

[underpants]

59. Yes seriously

I think it's maybe 1% as I weigh out the factors that made up the 30-40%.

Remember it happened as they were hammering the "health issues" thing. It was also in the cover of the National Enquirer already that week. I know the NE is a joke but the owner was a big Trump supporter and anyone who waited 1 minute in a grocery line already had the doubts put in their mind.

[romana]

5. Hubris

I think this was nothing more than a man who has been corrupted by his own hubris, the romanticized self-image he has of himself as above reproach.

[Nevernose]

7. I thought it was just because he's an anti-Clinton fanatic

And that's both Clintons.

I still think that's true, and I still think he's probably a total right wing nut job. But now I think he may also be being blackmailed by Russian intelligence. That's the stick. The carrot is that, under Trump, he gets unlimited power: a new J Edgar Hoover.

To a right wing nut job, being a fascist overlord like Hoover is actually a good thing, because then he can "do what it takes" to fulfill his vision of what society should look like, and use the "greaser good" excuse, in his own mind, to justify his selling our national security to the Russians.

This is a combination of everything you listed, plus some antipathy and rationalization.

Of course, that's just my theory based on evidence and gut feeling. No proof. Maybe he really is just the world's biggest dipshit.

[shadowmayor]

11. Not just anti-Clinton

The true republican patriots in the vein of G. Gordon Liddy actually believe that their party is only and true America. The democrats aren't merely misguided people with wrong ideas, they are the enemy of America. They don't see the merits of any opposition views or points because the enemy is not to be trusted or listened too at all. These people completely discredit any people outside of their realm, and will take them down at every opportunity using any means necessary. To crush Hillary right before the election was too juicy to pass up. He was doing what he believed was the right and correct path for his true country. Whether he was flipped remains to be seen, but I for one, doubt he needed any such enticement or inducement to do so. And of course; because he's just another right-wing delusional asshole.

[gordianot]

8. I am not sure even J Edgar Hoover would have pulled Comey's stunt.

Other than Trump no President will ever or should trust him that includes likely successor Pence (in the next few years)

[stevenleser]

33. If he did he would have done it through back channels, not by himself. nt

[MFM008]

9. woman haters

.....................................

[LompocDem]

10. Compromised (NT)

[Warpy]

12. "Git Clinton" has been his reason for living

and he was on the original team trying to find a crime in the Whitewater mess to pin on them.

He's also a GOP loyalist, a real company man.

And now there are a lot of people wondering who he's really working for.

[J_William_Ryan]

13. 5.

He wanted to rehabilitate his rightwing credentials after the beat-down he took from conservatives for not indicting Clinton.

[pnwmom]

14. I'm leaning toward blackmail, with him and some other Rethugs. n/t

[Cracklin Charlie]

29. Back in the days of kings and such...

The dukes, earls and lords, and those kind of guys, lived a life of luxury at the favor of the king.

The king kept them wealthy, happy, and healthy, so long as they did what the king wanted. The king accomplished this by giving them money, or blackmailing them into doing his bidding. The minor nobles did what he said, or everything they had (sometimes their head) would be taken away. Information in such a system can be every bit as powerful as money.

Sometimes the more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Mike Nelson]

15. All good theories...

...and would like to add Fear. He would see more years of progressive advances under Hillary. His career would end with his term. His taxes would be raised. The institutionalization of non-white groups in prisons would be lessoned. LGTB people would be able to use the appropriate bathroom and order pizza from any pizza shop. Women would continue to control their bodies and lives... And so on... all things that frighten conservative Republicans.

[Cosmocat]

16. I have 100 post here about Comey

Since his first attack in June.

There is no mystery here.

He cut his teeth as a special prosecutor for the partisan whitewater witch hunt.

He is a strong right wing partisan ideologue who hates the Clinton's w a passion.

[ileus]

18. He gets to keep his job.

[libtodeath]

19. Since he knew the fix was in it probably kept his position in the new puppet government.

[spanone]

20. the right hates the Clintons for their success.

[CK_John]

21. IMO, He is part of the Opus Dei group(Same as Hanssen) .

Opus Dei is a Catholic organization which encourages its members to promote their faith through their jobs and everyday lives.

Mayor Rudy Giuliani has a pipeline into the FBI.

[Nay]

41. OMG, I was just going to google whether Comey was one of those extreme

RW Catholics -- like from The Family -- and sure enough, he is. Goddammit. Law enforcement at all levels is infested with these people.

And Obama appointed this asshole to office?? Honestly, Dems have GOT to stop being stupid. We're in a fight for our lives and our country.

[AgadorSparticus]

22. He could very well be a Russian spy. He is not stupid.

I think he went after Clinton again to divert attention from the connection of the Republicans with russia.

[shraby]

23. According to the time-line he decided to help Russia.

The news was given to the 12 members of congress in September.
Comey brought up the email/Wiener thing 11 days before the election, which would have been the last of October.

Comey decided that Russia needed a little help pushing the electorate to trump.

Comey is as traitorous as McConnell.

[JHB]

24. Or: He's a conservative who saw a chance to thwart the the person they decided to despise...

...and took it. With plenty of encouragement from Rudy Giuliani and like-minded wingnuts in the FBI.

Not discounting possibility of a Russian connection, but these guys hated her long before the Rooskies got involved. They may have thought they were "using" the Russians while actually being useful idiots.

[Pathwalker]

25. Other: Revenge for Whitewater. He couldn't get her then,

and he never got over it.

[think]

26. Whatever the reason Comey's actions need to be investigated. This directly effected the election's

outcome.

It was blatant and EVERYONE witnessed it.

[jalan48]

27. He's part of an ideological split in our National Security State.

I would guess the infighting signals a struggle for power in these super secret organizations. The NSA, CIA, FBI are not homogeneous organizations where everyone agrees. Some members are Republicans, some Democrats and I would assume some are extreme right wing war hawks. This isn't about the good of the country, it's about gaining more power and influence behind the scenes.

[dembotoz]

28. Conservative like hoover loves the gop

And the gop saw trump as a path to power and while they whined on camera. They were happy as pigs in slop in private.
He saw his opportunity and he took it

[mainstreetonce]

30. He thought she was going to win

and fire him.
He had nothing to lose and one shot to save his job.

[MichMan]

46. Can't Obama still fire him now? n/t

[stevenleser]

34. Please, save that for people who don't have critical thinking skills.

We have the CIA and FBI and members of congress knowing of a candidates collusion with an adversarial foreign power weeks before an election and you are still pushing bullshit about a private email server?

If that doesn't seem ridiculous to you, you need to take a break to clear your head.

[stevenleser]

37. Yes and I was just responding to your lopsided analysis. And...

And the evidence of the Trump Putin collusion was live on national television. I'm quite certain even you saw it.

"Russia if you are listening, I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will be rewarded mightily by our press"

[stevenleser]

43. And FYI I was not the one who alerted. I really wanted to see your response to my last comment. nt

[JTFrog]

51. Oh, you know, that Comey, nevermind him, he's a swell guy. Don't get all hung up now.

Can't believe the post you just responded to.

[stevenleser]

53. This Russian revelation has been like flypaper to BoB types.

Check out this thread---> http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512652414#post8

[JTFrog]

58. Uggg.

They are seriously flailing around in all that sunshine.

[Coyotl]

38. Politics.

To swing the election for Trump and thus make himself more powerful.

If he had done nothing, Clinton was going to become his boss. He's a sexist just like Trump, and a right-wing zealot Bushie.

[TrishaJ]

39. I really loved the FX series, "The Americans,"

in which a couple of KGB agents infiltrated the FBI in order to gather intelligence against us. I will NEVER view that show the same way again.

[Nay]

45. That's a hell of a show, isn't it?? We're totally hooked. nt

[TrishaJ]

47. Me too!

But now it will have a different "tone" with me, if that makes sense.

[Nay]

49. Oh, yeah, i know what you mean. Didn't it make you laugh out loud

in that one episode where the Russian spy couple had their FBI neighbor and the preacher couple over for dinner? And the spy couple's teenage boy told the preacher couple that their neighbor was an FBI agent and the preacher said, "REALLY??"

God, we died laughing.

[TrishaJ]

56. Yeah, it was funny at the time.

And of course, the Spies' daughter and the FBI agents' son are real cozy. It is a great series, although looking more like truth than fiction.....

[Nay]

61. I can hardly wait for THAT to blow up! nt

[TrekLuver]

40. I think he was getting pressured internally by Pro Trashpot agents and they were going to

leak the story so he "got out in front of it". I think these pro Trumpers purposely held back this threat until the last moment and that is how the timing happened.

So it's either that OR Comey was part of an integral part of the Pro Trash FBI Pac.

No matter what the reason IT FUCKING STUNK TO HIGH HEAVEN OF BULLSHIT.

[Baitball Blogger]

42. Check out his background. He's been trying to take the Clintons down since the 90s.

He was there during Whitewater, and his work would later lead to the Ken Starr Witch hunt.

I think he was an easy peg to push over. Collusion is possible because of the way the right-wing latched onto Comey's announcement with commercials that gave the voter a simple message: "Would you vote for a candidate who is under FBI investigation?" That was probably all Comey was expecting to accomplish. We can only surmise now how Trump would have rewarded him if we hadn't connected the dots.

[JHan]

48. I don't know but as others have noted, he needs to be investigated..

I expected Obama to fire his ass or request his resignation. Fuck genteel politics, it wasn't the time for it..

[WhiteTara]

52. Add personal animus toward Hillary Clinton

he was part of the whitewater investigation and spent lots of time trying to find some dirt on either Clinton. Their greatest sin was losing $12,000 in a land deal as far as I could tell.

But in addition to the other points, I believe hatred was another motivator. He probably knew he would be replaced in a Clinton administration too.

[Freethinker65]

54. Anti-Clinton useful idiot

[boston bean]

55. Lean toward four but because of Russian extortion/bribery.

[putitinD]

57. Comey was trying to help his good friend Rudy Ghoulyanus land a cabinet position if trump won.

[Barack_America]

60. 5. Blackmail

Someone has something on him.

[workinclasszero]

62. I think Comey betrayed his country for his fucking party

and his damned ideology.

He is just a Russian stooge now. I hope history will hold his traitorous action in contempt forever!