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babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:44 AM Dec 2016

Russian Official Brags About Trump Victory: Russia Won US Election

http://reverbpress.com/politics/russian-official-brags-about-trump-victory-russia-won-us-election/

Russian Official Brags About Trump Victory: ‘Russia Won’ US Election

December 10, 2016
Marc Belisle Politics


Russian Politicians Can No Longer Contain Their Glee

Russian officials from Vladimir Putin’s ruling party are beginning to find it difficult to contain their glee at the election of Donald Trump in the US presidential election. CBS News reported that a Russian governor recently shared his view of who he thinks really won the American election,

“It turns out that United Russia won the elections in America,” Viktor Nazarov, the governor of Omsk, Russia, declared in a radio interview.


Nazarov’s “United Russia” is a reference to Putin’s ruling party. Under the Russian autocrat, United Russia has maintained semi-permanent majority control of the Russian Duma. The party’s ideology evolves over time, recently trending more toward traditional Russian conservatism, but its goal is always to support and enable Putin’s kleptocratic regime, and its privatization and militarization.

CBS News reports that Putin’s party believes that Trump’s win in the Electoral College is a win for Russia, because they believe that Trump is going to undo the sanctions that President Barack Obama slapped against Russia. The sanctions targeted Russian oligarchs following Russia’s annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.

For Putin, sanctions relief is a gateway to the ultimate goal of establishing Russia as the political and economic equivalent of the United States. Mr. Trump, who has extolled Putin’s leadership and called for a tempered approach to U.S.-Russia relations, may be a conduit to achieving that.

“It’s much more about institutions, not about personalities,” said Robert Amsterdam, an international attorney who has a number of high-profile Russian clients. Putin “was seriously impacted by the sanctions because it targeted his closest friends and now they think Trump is going to change that.”


Given recent developments surrounding Trump and Russia, Nazarov’s view that United Russia won the election is probably accurate. it is becoming clear that Russia supported Trump in the election, that Trump’s transition team is using propaganda in an effort to muddy the waters on that issue, that Trump is increasingly actively hostile toward US intelligence, and the president-elect is appointing people who embrace Russian foreign policy interests.

On Saturday, Trump blasted the CIA after it issued its findings that Russia had supported Trump. Also on Saturday, Trump tapped Exxon Mobil CEO Rex Tillerson to be his Secretary of State. Tillerson established a business partnership with Russia that Putin estimates is worth half a trillion dollars. Tillerson and Putin have sought closer relations between the US and Russia since the sanctions were implemented.

The question of whether Trump is a Russian stooge is effectively settled. The question now is how much Trump, who is reportedly ignoring most of his intelligence briefings, will serve Russian interests and attack American interests, or whether he can be reigned in by other forces in Washington.
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Russian Official Brags About Trump Victory: Russia Won US Election (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2016 OP
With help from the FBI. I find it interesting that the CIA and FBI are sending different sarcasmo Dec 2016 #1
Clearly the FBI has been infiltrated by Russian spies. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #4
Remember Robert Hanssen? kimbutgar Dec 2016 #15
That's interesting. Thank you for posting this. It proves even more AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #20
Yes, that IS interesting, isn't it? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #5
yep... dhill926 Dec 2016 #8
The Republican FBI keithbvadu2 Dec 2016 #9
The FBI is Domestic and CIA is Non-Domestic. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #18
I'm flabbergasted that they would go so public about their coup. shraby Dec 2016 #2
I don't imagine they do anything without the blessing of Putin. babylonsister Dec 2016 #3
I'm guessing that he spoke in Russian, and assumed that our media would be to Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #6
Their attitude is probably that of the schoolyard bully: DFW Dec 2016 #11
They've been gloating for the past month Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #7
Omsk is certainly where I'd go to find out about what was happening in Moscow FarCenter Dec 2016 #10
Thanks, GOP. Vinca Dec 2016 #12
I think this story needs to be put out on MSM. Even if the DNC has to buy ads. 33taw Dec 2016 #13
Yes, that is a good idea. blue neen Dec 2016 #14
We have posters here saying get over it. libtodeath Dec 2016 #16
Rex Tillerson: a Secy of State appointment that would confirm Putin's US election win KatyBR Dec 2016 #17
that seems like spiking the ball in everyone's face. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #19
Why is mainstream press not mentioning the Russian hacking of our state & Local election systems? KatyBR Dec 2016 #21
Good for them, I am happy for them yuiyoshida Dec 2016 #22
Freakin Republicans have sold America down the freakin river Achilleaze Dec 2016 #23

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
1. With help from the FBI. I find it interesting that the CIA and FBI are sending different
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:48 AM
Dec 2016

Information to our Senators.

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
15. Remember Robert Hanssen?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:05 PM
Dec 2016

Robert Philip Hanssen (born April 18, 1944) is a former U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent who spied for Soviet and Russian intelligence services against the United States for twenty-two years from 1979 to 2001. He is currently serving 15 consecutive life sentences at ADX Florence, a federal supermax prison near Florence, Colorado.

Hanssen was arrested on February 18, 2001, at Foxstone Park[2] near his home in Vienna, Virginia, and was charged with selling U.S. secrets to the Soviet Union and subsequently the Russian Federation for more than US$1.4 million in cash and diamonds over a 22-year period.[3]

On July 6, 2001, he pleaded guilty to 15 counts of espionage in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.[4][5] He was sentenced to 15 life terms without the possibility of parole. His activities have been described by the Department of Justice's Commission for the Review of FBI Security Programs as "possibly the worst intelligence disaster in U.S. history

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hanssen

Who's to say he had help from friends still inside the FBI? Who are dual spies.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
20. That's interesting. Thank you for posting this. It proves even more
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:39 PM
Dec 2016

That the Russians are still here and we need to fumigate. We need to implement stricter standards.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
2. I'm flabbergasted that they would go so public about their coup.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:50 AM
Dec 2016

They practically spelled it out in language a 5 year old could understand.

babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
3. I don't imagine they do anything without the blessing of Putin.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:56 AM
Dec 2016

Or maybe at the suggestion from Putin.

Baitball Blogger

(46,684 posts)
6. I'm guessing that he spoke in Russian, and assumed that our media would be to
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 12:02 PM
Dec 2016

dumb to translate? You can't really dock him for that assumption.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
11. Their attitude is probably that of the schoolyard bully:
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:32 PM
Dec 2016

"So whattya gonna do about it?"

Unfortunately, the framers of the constitution did not foresee a foreign power manipulating one of our elections to their advantage. The certainly didn't foresee false statements by a major US Government law enforcement agency being made for the sole purpose of influencing the outcome. Therefore, there is no clause in our constitution for re-doing an election due to this kind of manipulation. And no wonder: in 1787, it would have been rather hard to imagine.

33taw

(2,436 posts)
13. I think this story needs to be put out on MSM. Even if the DNC has to buy ads.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:49 PM
Dec 2016

If not, it will get lost.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
14. Yes, that is a good idea.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:51 PM
Dec 2016

Preach it far and wide. The Russians interfered in our election and are gloating about it.

KatyBR

(183 posts)
17. Rex Tillerson: a Secy of State appointment that would confirm Putin's US election win
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:46 PM
Dec 2016
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/309813-trump-picks-exxon-ceo-tillerson-for-secretary-of-state-report

According to the Wall Street Journal, Tillerson negotiated an energy partnership with Putin in 2011 that the Russian president said could be worth $500 billion.

The following year, Tillerson received the Russian Order of Friendship, one of the highest awards the country bestows upon foreign nationals.

Reuters reported earlier this year that the Exxon Mobil deal with Russia had been put on hold due to sanctions levied against the Kremlin for its annexation of Crimea in 2014. The company has said it intends to resume the deal after sanctions are lifted — a process that Tillerson could help expedite as secretary of State.

noteworthy that Hillary Clinton would have continued those sanctions & embargo

KatyBR

(183 posts)
21. Why is mainstream press not mentioning the Russian hacking of our state & Local election systems?
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:06 PM
Dec 2016

They are only talking about the DNC: Have they all forgotten this news from last October?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/07/russia-s-senior-most-officials-ordered-dnc-hack.html

"Officials also said they had detected Russian attempts to target state and local-level elections systems.

“We also worked as quickly as possible to release as much information as possible in order to provide state and local officials sufficient time to fortify their infrastructure,” the official said. The Department of Homeland Security and the FBI have put state elections officials on notice that hackers have been trying to access voter registration files and could cause havoc on Election Day. So far, 25 states have asked the department to help scan their computer networks for security weaknesses.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
22. Good for them, I am happy for them
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

so when do they start moving in over here? Has Trump made arrangements for members of the Russian Contingency for permanent housing in the US?

The ruble should be wonderful for this economy and every American can learn it worth soon.



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