Morning Joy right now: "Roe v. Wade could be overturned in 2017 or 2018

[Horse with no Name]

with the new SCOTUS and the new Ohio heartbeat law to challenge it.

Lisa Bloom calls a CODE RED on it.

[earthside]

1. That's just for starters.

If the Senate Republicans act boldly and get rid of the filibuster rule there could be new federal laws that effectively take us back to the 1930s when it comes to reproductive rights.

[CountAllVotes]

2. Many of the people caring to overturn this do not even have the name correct

Is it Row v. Way or is it Roe v. Wade or is it something else?

Some out there don't even know what this is because THEY have slipped through the cracks as well.

Stupid is as stupid does.

By overturning Roe v. Wade the right for a woman to have a LEGAL ABORTION.
becomes a crime once again and oh yes, I remember those days only too damn well!

[csziggy]

3. Lisa Bloom also talked about increased difficulty in getting birth control

And how that will guarantee that the need for abortion will increase.

The right wing wants to prevent women from having control of their own bodies. They don't want women to be able to plan their families or to be able to prevent unwanted pregnancies. But they refuse to even think about how to assist women with those children once they are born.

[ismnotwasm]

4. There is already what's called an "underground railroad" for women seeking abortion

From states with strict abortion laws. If Roe is overturned, and state after state outlaws it, there are activists getting ready to ferry women across borders. Money of course, ensures a woman will never have to worry about making her decision--for now.

This is another "wall" --an invisible one that Trump is building. U

[Calculating]

5. I hope they do this honestly

It would make sure the Republicans lose control over our government for the foreseeable future. What better way to confirm the 'Republican war on women'?

[bettyellen]

14. You hope women's lives are sacrificed to mAybe help turn things around?

Fuck that. This is why we will never back burner social justice.

[J_William_Ryan]

6. Not with the current Supreme Court, no.

Trump will simply be replacing Scalia with another reactionary rightwing ideologue hostile to privacy rights.

There will still be a 5 to 4 majority who will vote to acknowledge a woman’s right to privacy, as we saw with Whole Women’s Health this year.

If Kennedy, Breyer, or Ginsburg should be compelled to leave the Court, however, while Trump is president – or any Republican, for that matter – then the right to privacy is indeed in jeopardy.

And if the lower courts follow settled, accepted 14th Amendment jurisprudence recognizing a right to privacy, it’s likely an abortion case may not make it to the Court at all.

The Ohio measure is very similar to an Oklahoma law invalidated by the Oklahoma Supreme Court, citing Casey, where no appeal was warranted.

This is not to say we shouldn’t be alarmed by a Trump ‘presidency’ with regard to privacy rights – there’s every reason to be alarmed, making it imperative a Democrat is elected in 2020; a second Trump term or Republican administration in 2021 would likely bring about the end of a woman’s right to privacy, the right of gay Americans to marry, and the right of immigrants to due process of the law.

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7. I was amazed to see recent poll results

Even half of Republicans thought abortion should be legal. When Dems and Republicans combined it was 60%.

I think the issue is that it's a subject with soft support. I'm sure that 60% do think it should remain legal but for too many it's not their primary issue that they feel strongly about. The people that want it overturned DO feel strongly about it and make their voices known. And that sucks. I'm afraid even if it were overturned too many people wouldn't notice the effect for too long a period of time.

[tritsofme]

8. As currently constituted, there is a pro-Roe majority on the Court.

The confirmation of an anti-Roe Scalia replacement will not change that.

Should the Ginsberg or Kennedy seats come open, there would be a huge problem.

[duffyduff]

9. Yep. Roe v. Wade is going nowhere. n/t

[TrekLuver]

11. Yes talking heads are dismayed why they didn't step down during Obama's years so he could of

replaced them with youth and assure those seats for years to come. Why did they not do that???

[tritsofme]

12. Pride always goes before a fall.

Ginsberg gambled that she could be replaced by the first woman president in Hillary Clinton. Hopefully it is not a bet we pay for over a generation.

[TrekLuver]

13. They should of went for the sure thing for the good of the country. Very selfish. n/t

[bettyellen]

15. Considering how they blocked everything Obama did I don't think we

Were sure to get anyone on the court at all. Let alone someone truly liberal. But yeah, blame the best SCJ and president right now, so helpful.

[TrekLuver]

10. If they dare try to overturn this and make it illegal in all 50 states there will be an uproar

across the country because yes half of Repub's are soft on these social issues and agree to keep abortion legal. They better not DARE to try this shit.

[katmondoo]

16. There should have been many an uproar over the restrictions that have been put in place in many Stat

In my opinion women have been too complacent over the years as Republican Governor after Governor has made life miserable for women.

[cbdo2007]

17. The wildcard here is Chief Justice Roberts

He has taken progressive stances on some issues and publicly stated during his confirmation hearings that he wouldn't support overturning Roe v Wade because it is already a set judicial precedent.