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kentuck

(111,069 posts)
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 02:52 PM Dec 2016

The "normalizing" of Donald Trump.

The word most often used is "unconventional".

Americans are asked to ignore the past and accept the new reality.

But the truth is that there is nothing "normal" about Donald Trump. He is still a pathological liar. He is still a sociological narcissist. He told FOX this morning that he was smart and he did not need the daily intelligence briefing.

He is still the vulgar, indecent misogynist that we saw in the primaries. He is still the prickly, name-calling bully that he has always been. Nothing has changed.

Simply calling him "unconventional" does not change the facts. We have a dangerous and unstable person about to enter the White House.

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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. It's insulting to see that feminizing him is supposed to equal an insult.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:31 PM
Dec 2016

Is that what you're preaching to people around you?
It's homophobic, sexist and disturbing to see THIS get normalized too. Especially in an inclusive community.

Please delete this sexist / homophobic crap.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
6. Everything about the Trumpster is vanity...
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:41 PM
Dec 2016

He is the epitome of vanity.

I am simply putting lipstick on the pig of vanity.

Sorry that you have come to his defense or become defensive for sexism. I am none of what you have called me and take great umbrage to your accusations.

I will state again, DJT is the walking talking definition of vain. Hence, my caricature is perfect, neither is it sexist or homophobic or any other ic s.

How you might ask do I know what I am talking about! Well I have behind my given name three letters which give me the education and 50+ years of experience counseling members of our society which exhibit many of the same behavior as the Trumpster .

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. That you denigrate a person by "feminizing" them is blatantly sexist and
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:48 PM
Dec 2016

In the way you've chosen to do it, seriously trans-phobic as well. It has nothing to do with defending Trump- you're the one normalizing his "women are weak and shallow" mindset.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
8. Again your characterization is incorrect ... Way off base..
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 04:57 PM
Dec 2016

You characterize me for putting lipstick on a vain pig

You see feminizing and call it sexist . And trains phobic which I think you meant trans phobic. And assuming that I am somehow normalizing his behavior is really jumping a shark.

Is lipstick really feminist? I like the shade of purple myself?



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. Is lipstick a signifier of femininity in our culture? Yes it is.
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:11 PM
Dec 2016

When you use the markers of feminity to put down a person, you are making an arguement that feminity makes someone lesser.

Of course that is sexist. We don't carve out exceptions when it's used against people we dislike.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
11. Again your assumptions are grossly one sided..
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:25 PM
Dec 2016

First, Lipstick can and is used by both sexes.

You jumped the shark when you said ," you are making the argument that feminity makes someone lesser."

Of course it is not sexism or trans phobic or any other accusation that you have piled on..

I will state once again, my intent was to show the definition of vanity, DJT as not pretty even with lipstick.

If you want to rant and rave about my sexist trans phobic behavior, you have the right to do so, but I will say again, you are jumping onto a shark.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. It is an old sexist trope- women vanity above competence
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:31 PM
Dec 2016

So common that you don't even see it.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. Thank you for listening. It has been a very disheartening year as far as this shit goes...
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:03 PM
Dec 2016

I appreciate you being open minded and removing it.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
18. My wife has further explained her feelings and
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:06 PM
Dec 2016

How the picture could be misinterpreted and I thank you for your input.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. I know people often think it's "one little joke" but in reality, it's an endless amount of images
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Dec 2016

That belittle us, and it does have a cumulative effect.
Yours is not as bad as much of what's "out there" but DU is a place for liberals and hopefully a bit of a respite from the endless crap that is the man cave called the Internet.
It's ugly out there. We don't have a lot of places that are not hostile. Again, thanks for Giving it some deeper thought- thats commendable.

*hattip*

arithia

(455 posts)
13. sorry, but it really was pretty sexist
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 05:33 PM
Dec 2016

and transphobic, too. Vanity can easily be expressed without gendered subtext like full face makeup- something that traditionally only women (or individuals identifying as women) wear on a regular basis in our culture. A gaze into a mirror gets the point across without bringing up gender norms. Or sh*t like this-



Stick to images of actual pigs if you want to use the euphemism without people crying foul.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Media is using a carefully written
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 03:45 PM
Dec 2016

Advertising Script when describing and talking about Trump. Just more of the Campaign Speak only with a Advertising Spin. They are trying sell everyone a Rose when most know it is a POS.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
15. Trump would not have had a chance in hell of winning the primary
Sun Dec 11, 2016, 06:02 PM
Dec 2016

If the main stream media didn't run interference for him the whole time. They relentlessly attacked Hillary 24/7 about stupid emails and willed to power a fascist pu**y grabbing monster controlled by a russian dictator!

The whole intelligence structure of this country is compromised and suspect. God knows what that traitor bastard is going to do to this country after Jan 20 2017.

The day America died? We shall soon see.

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