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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAny Other Country Would Be In Open Rebellion Over the Elections- Why Are We Different?
Think about it... the person in second place by going on 4m votes wins with the help of foreign interference. Are we the only country in the world that wouldn't at least be in a general strike over this?
Or, have been so brainwashed that the American Revolution has already happened that we are rendered fat, complacent blobs?
Seriously!
JI7
(89,279 posts)doc03
(35,389 posts)election I remember the news talking heads saying that countries in Europe can't believe our
country claims to be a democracy and the person that loses the election can win.
BzaDem
(11,142 posts)doc03
(35,389 posts)BzaDem
(11,142 posts)In the UK, the leader of the party with most seats in the House of Commons becomes prime minister. That does not necessarily mean that the party with the most votes becomes prime minister, just like the party with the most votes in this country does not always get a majority of the House of Representatives. (We won the House popular vote in 2012, but did not get a majority of the House.)
The problem is compounded by the fact that there are more than two parties in the UK. In the 2010 general election for example, the Tory party only won 36% of the vote, whereas Labour and Liberal Democrats together won 52% of the vote (29% + 23%). Yet because the Tory party won the largest number of seats (47%, far higher than their vote share), they were more easily able to form a coalition and essentially win the election.
doc03
(35,389 posts)Calculating
(2,957 posts)We're the only modern country with elections to use such a corrupt system. Most other modern countries have runoff style elections where the winner claims a true majority. America was never actually meant to be free. That's why the founders put this filter between the will of the people and our government. I firmly believe that the EC will ultimately doom our country unless we remove it. We can't keep losing crucial elections because of the EC giving disproportionate power to uneducated rural states. There's no logical reason for a vote in Wyoming to be worth something like 7x a vote in Cali.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Jean-Jacques Roussea
(475 posts)The equation for a docile populace
pbmus
(12,422 posts)For others it is nihilistic glee.
For way too many, they do not have the time to worry about politics. Just have too many other things to worry about, like how to pay for the roof over there heads. This lack of time has been purposely realized by our leaders, i.e., inequality in almost everything..
dhill926
(16,373 posts)I've always felt this. Especially knowing folks like this....they just want things to be fucked up...it's entertaining...and they don't care...their lives are fucked up...
pbmus
(12,422 posts)They say, that it brings them opportunities that they didn't have when it was status quo.
In studying history about fascism, it works in a similar fashion, with chaos being a central theme.
Calculating
(2,957 posts)Their lives are boring and depressing, and they welcome any change from the norm which might shake things up.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)The shaking up part is mostly correct
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)There are no external cues from those that are charged with telling people when to worry. So, people just assume that all the extraneous stuff is just hot air from radicals who are unhappy with the results of the election.
It's the same problem that gave us Donald in the first place. The media made him seem like just a slightly eccentric, but otherwise plausible choice.
triron
(22,026 posts)kentuck
(111,110 posts)The Founders would not have created it any other way.
pansypoo53219
(21,004 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,488 posts)JESUS.
They've put it all in his hands.
And by proxy into the small hands of the Annointed One.
JustinL
(722 posts)Some excerpts:
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In all of these matters, both subtly and directly, and by many of our institutions, including the press, we were encouraged to think of ourselves as frightened children and our democratic republic as something made of candy glass that would shatter from the vibrations if our constitutional engines were revved up too highly or if they performed their essential functions too vigorously. We were convinced that our faith in our values was a fragile and breathless thing that would collapse if exercised too strenuously.
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There is something profound in the moment through which we presently are living. We are a month away from inaugurating a manifestly unqualified and ethically unfit man as president of the United States, a man who has lost the popular vote by nearly three million votes, who already is reneging on almost every promise he made while campaigning, who steadfastly refuses to be transparent about who holds the note on his finances and who is on his way to raising conflicts of interest to stratospheric levels, and who now may very well be the willing bobo for a foreign dictator.
The situation is the most stark challenge to a free people that has arisen in my lifetime. We have political and democratic muscles that have atrophied from disuse that now have to be called upon immediately to rescue the republic no matter how many people find that to be too rowdy and inconvenient for their refined political tempers. We have institutional safeguards that have rusted from neglect, but which still work if we're strong enough to turn the handles. We are in the deep, dark woods now. We all are, in a very real sense, survivalists.