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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow many here watched the Nixon watergate hearings?
Once a hearing is started about Russia, it not only can widen, but it will as more players are dragged into the pile.
You'll hear more claiming the 5th amendment then you can believe. You'll also hear more lies than you thought possible, then one by one they are shot down. It will be like Condi Rice admitting to the August PDB every day, once it gets started.
Don't miss it. It will be worth the watch.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)And the smell does not go away yet today.
Mr.Bill
(24,292 posts)but in a sense, it was a cleansing.
shraby
(21,946 posts)It even still taints everything.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the incomplete process of Impeachment to go to fruition . Nixon walked away.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)you got one of ours,next we take one of yours.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Once it's broadly known that Russia hacked and withheld info on Republicans... it only remains to know what they got.
I think all RNC emails should be released to the public.
shraby
(21,946 posts)Maybe this will help get rid of it and the players who are stinking up the joint.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)One could also look at the Benghazi/email probes, which caused tremendous damage based on far less actual wrongdoing than either Watergate or 9/11.
Once the media starts to make money on the hearings, they will take on a life of their own.
I wonder who their John Dean will be?
We already know who's their Rosemary is.
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)The end result was my favorite--Nixon going back to California in shame. Although now that I think about it, I don't think he was ashamed at all.
I remember as related above, the claims of taking the 5th, etc. . . . I don't have ANY objective evidence to support my theory, but I do BELIEVE that Herr tRump will not make it through 4 years.
GP6971
(31,158 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)exposed as a fraud and a cheat, as he will be, before the electors meet.
CincyDem
(6,358 posts)Got out of school at 2:00pm so I was home for much of the afternoon session. If it was particularly juicy, I usually talked my folks into cutting class. Worth every second.
I'm not sure how I felt about it at the time but looking back on it, my sense is that it was a bunch of guys working to keep the system from being corrupt. Pretty sure that today's partisanship driven my R's "party first, country next" view of the world would ever let something like this happen again. I really do believe it was a once in a lifetime experience.
Would love to be wrong. Would love to see the American government - as represented by both sides of the aisle - outraged that a foreign power, particularly THIS foreign power, was f'ing with our elections.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Too much classified information for a public hearing. It may be the Intelligence Committee who hears it, in which case almost all of it will be closed and not broadcast.
shraby
(21,946 posts)There is going to be a hue and cry to make them open. Not only from the public, but the media as well.
They can deal with how to use the classified material in the best way, but most of the hearing should be open.
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)And whatever "hue and cry" that goes up will be countered with reference to classified materials that will presented at any such hearing. Pretty much the entire hearing will deal with classified information, and so can't be conducted in public.
That's not how I'd like it to be, but I suspect strongly that is how it will be. We will have to depend on our Democratic members of Congress or Senators to make sure it's all on the up and up. Congress has a long-standing habit of ignoring the "hue and cry" of the public, particularly when there is no election coming up soon.
Our control of Congress is limited to voting for those who represent us. We can communicate with Congress, but there is no law requiring that Congress listens to us.
eleny
(46,166 posts)As they were happening "back in the day".
If they're on the web - go find them and watch! Amazing things can happen in this government even in a time when people are busy or just glued to Twitter. Resist the short attention span for which you are being groomed.
Real things happen when Congress asks the tough questions because people are interested enough in their future to become engaged.
TXCritter
(344 posts)I hated them for that.
mopinko
(70,103 posts)i didnt hate 'em, tho. i was cheering.
nini
(16,672 posts)That is completely unacceptable.. I used to run home from school not to miss Barnabas
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,985 posts)The show was cancelled in 1971.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)That's probably why I grew up not liking Republicans and Nixon! I would come home from school and Watergate would be on the TV and not my afternoon cartoons.
TXCritter
(344 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)started.
During questioning, it inadvertently came out that there was a machine that recorded conversations in Nixon's office that wasn't common knowledge.
That led to the "gap in the tape" because of Rosemary Woods.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)That's when shit got real - "Tapes? Oh really?"
My first real political memories growing up were Watergate and the fall of Vietnam.
And people wonder why I'm sort of pessimistic by nature . . .
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I hope this Russia thing gets a hearing.
TheDebbieDee
(11,119 posts)and I was pissed that my soap operas were pre-empted to show the Watergate Hearings...
Greybnk48
(10,168 posts)especially John Dean and the phrase, "at that moment in time."
vlyons
(10,252 posts)I was fascinated by the hearings. It seems that the Republicans have been in pay-back mode ever since. The lesson that the GOP learned was DON'T GET CAUGHT. So now they rig state elections to gerrymander and suppress the vote.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Hillary was one of the incredibly brilliant attorneys who brought Nixon down, and they will never forgive that. They are still passing around false information about her on it, using this photo for them.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)During Watergate the Democratic Party controlled both houses.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)58-42 in the Senate and I think Democrats had around 250 House seats. There were also liberal Republicans at the time: Lowell Weicker of Connecticut made a name for himself with his tough questioning of Republicans. Joe Lieberman beat him years later by running to Weicker's right.
Atman
(31,464 posts)You couldn't get away from them back then. Of course, we only had three or four real channels, and the major three networks aired the hearings live. Didn't matter where you went, from a local diner to the barber shop, it was the only thing on tv. It was pretty huge stuff.
FreeStateDemocrat
(2,654 posts)I felt then that we would come out okay in the end.
Even when the Idiot Son stole the election, while it bothered me deeply it didn't lead me to a sense of palpably deep concern that is beginning to border on a fear for the survival of our freedom as the unhinged behavior of this egomaniac is doing today.
barbtries
(28,794 posts)we are in real danger here! our democracy, our rights, our lives.
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)listened to the hearings on the radio. I was working with one of the leaders of the local SDS, doing grunt lab tech work, and the lab manager had no problems with us listening.
spanone
(135,832 posts)we danced!.....
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)Fichefinder
(167 posts)Democrat from North Carolina, He was a constitutional scholar and the hero of the Watergate hearings. He was, to my recollection, the first one that asked "What did you know, and when did you know it". We watched it every day in history class in High School.
blue neen
(12,321 posts)"What did the President know and when did he know it?".
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)or at least indoctrinating us. We watched, he explained, opined and commented... oh, and there will be a pop quiz during dinner. In between our studied indifference, the eyerolls, heaving sighs and fidgeting, we all managed to learn something in spite of ourselves. Now I dutifully plop my old keester down in front of the TV and eagerly adsorb all the unbelievable current events of the bizarre era that I live in now. It's better than reading a suspense novel, and I carry on the family tradition of catcalls, raspberries, boos and even the odd cheering applause.
Thanks, Pops!
get the red out
(13,466 posts)I would go to my Grandparents' house after school and he made sure I sat there and watched the hearings. He told me "You will study this in school", he always told me Nixon was a crook too. That man HATED Nixon.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)gademocrat7
(10,657 posts)Will never forget those hearings.
TrishaJ
(798 posts)well. I still remember the day the Republicans in the House turned on Nixon. He resigned the next day.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)His testimony was so different than what the Nixon White House said......but there was an "honest feel" and details which were totally believable ..So, it came out that there was "proof" and John Dean was telling the truth and the entire Nixon crew lied, and many went to jail..
barbtries
(28,794 posts)not every second, just every second that i could. i was a senior in high school.
kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,955 posts)...so I don't expect any similar hearings against Republicans. The do like Pence, though, so maybe articles of impeachment could be proposed. Not a big chance, but possible. And, with Pence, we're still doomed.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)MFM008
(19,808 posts)My dad watched some of them but I remember thinking how boring.......
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)We had a great teacher. They dont even offer the class these days. We were paired in tbe class and my team mate and i guessed thst he would resign (luck and politically engaged parents helped).
However i recal there were 3 articles of impeachment.
I think the first was obstruction of justice and rhe second eas abuse of power and i forgot the third.
George II
(67,782 posts)....in the car listening to them.
I want to remind people that they were a great lesson in patriotism and bipartisanship. Republicans were just as interested in finding out the truth as Democrats, and it was Lowell Weiker (Republican at the time) who was most incisive with his questioning, and it was Barry Goldwater who visited Nixon and told him it was over.
I just hope that republicans this time around are as interested in justice as they were 40 years ago.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)3catwoman3
(23,987 posts)...mistake of taking a 2 semester summer class in organic chemistry, thinking I wanted to apply to med school (got scared off when I got a "C" and never did apply). So, not much time, but whenever I was home, my mom was "glued" to the TV screen.
She would watch it in real time, and the watch it again in the evening re-broadcast.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)I was a Watergate junkie. I came home from work and watched the hearings on PBS until all hours of the night. Then I got up early and went to work all over again. I was exhausted. I still have all the books written about the topic.
This is so much worse.
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)N/t
wryter2000
(46,045 posts)I thought there would be hearings about Bush's many atrocities. I hope something finally happens now. We'll need more Republicans who care about the country before that happens.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)doc03
(35,337 posts)in there, I assume that will be what it is called.
or
Putingate
Trumpgate
Traitorgate
Shitlergate
Tweetgate
Twittergate
Hackgate
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)I predicted before the election night in 1972 that Nixon would either be impeached or resign. Nobody believed me.
Guess who was right?
UTUSN
(70,695 posts)lostnfound
(16,179 posts)Every day. It was fascinating, and I admired Sam Irvin and John Dean.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)The senators on that committee were my heroes (I have autographed pictures of all of them). I was in the audience when they were grilling L. Patrick Gray to replace Hoover. Nothing exciting until they asked him if he knew anything about the Watergate break-ins....then the cameras started rolling.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,985 posts)What I remember most from that time was Nixon's press conference where he uttered the famous phrase "I am not a crook". Around February of 1974 or so.