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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:19 PM Dec 2016

How many here watched the Nixon watergate hearings?

Once a hearing is started about Russia, it not only can widen, but it will as more players are dragged into the pile.

You'll hear more claiming the 5th amendment then you can believe. You'll also hear more lies than you thought possible, then one by one they are shot down. It will be like Condi Rice admitting to the August PDB every day, once it gets started.

Don't miss it. It will be worth the watch.

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How many here watched the Nixon watergate hearings? (Original Post) shraby Dec 2016 OP
Watch most of them. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #1
I agree, Mr.Bill Dec 2016 #2
You're absolutely right. shraby Dec 2016 #3
Simiply the Democrats allowed Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #12
That was due to Ford being in office at the time and giving Nixon a pardon. shraby Dec 2016 #16
And the Democratic Party was put on Notice, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #17
Ultimately the conversation will turn to what kompromat Russia got from the RNC and Republicans. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #4
There's been a bad smell wafting from Washington for a long time. shraby Dec 2016 #8
I did - and kept thinking, "I KNEW he wasa crook!" nt csziggy Dec 2016 #5
I remember it too. lagomorph777 Dec 2016 #36
Me too! Ligyron Dec 2016 #56
Not all, but I watched a good bit. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #6
I watched them all. n/t GP6971 Dec 2016 #7
I just wish there was more time for this to play out and that Trump would be Tanuki Dec 2016 #9
Watched almost every day. CincyDem Dec 2016 #10
Much of the hearing about Russia will be closed. MineralMan Dec 2016 #11
I don't think that will play in Peoria so to speak. shraby Dec 2016 #13
It doesn't have to "play in Peoria," frankly. MineralMan Dec 2016 #19
Me, too shraby eleny Dec 2016 #14
Yes benld74 Dec 2016 #15
They interrupted my cartoons. TXCritter Dec 2016 #18
i was gonna say they interrupted my soaps. no dark shadows. grrr. mopinko Dec 2016 #24
No Dark Shadows?!?!?!?! nini Dec 2016 #28
Must have been repeats Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #71
I remember that as well NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #40
We are the lost generation :) TXCritter Dec 2016 #64
Another thing that happened which could happen in this when it gets shraby Dec 2016 #20
Alexander Porter Butterfield! hatrack Dec 2016 #25
I remember those well. cwydro Dec 2016 #21
I remember. I was 12 or 13 @ the time... TheDebbieDee Dec 2016 #22
Yep. i was in my 20's and remember Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #23
I watch - way back when vlyons Dec 2016 #26
Yes, they are still in payback mode and their hatred for Hillary starts with her work on the Comm. Coyotl Dec 2016 #55
Me. Unforgettable. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #27
There is a big difference here. Scruffy1 Dec 2016 #29
yes, and by big margins NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #43
Me. Every day, all the time. Atman Dec 2016 #30
I did and nothing that has ever happened is more distressing and fearful than right now. FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2016 #31
that's it. barbtries Dec 2016 #46
Didn't have a TV, but Retrograde Dec 2016 #32
watched it like a hawk... spanone Dec 2016 #33
Yes, as often as possible. flor-de-jasmim Dec 2016 #34
Where is a Senator Sam Ervin when you need one? Fichefinder Dec 2016 #35
I think Sen. Howard Baker is the one who asked the question blue neen Dec 2016 #51
It was him. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #66
My dad was a stickler about getting us kids interested in current events, procon Dec 2016 #37
My Grandfather get the red out Dec 2016 #41
I watched some. n/t. whathehell Dec 2016 #38
Watched all of it. gademocrat7 Dec 2016 #39
Count me in. I remember them very TrishaJ Dec 2016 #42
I remember John Dean testifying, and thinking, "I wonder if there if proof to what he is saying..." Stuart G Dec 2016 #44
i did. barbtries Dec 2016 #45
I did but I doubt our current corporate media would broadcast these hearings kimbutgar Dec 2016 #47
Repubicans control Congress... Mike Nelson Dec 2016 #48
Every last word of it. It was so incredible to see Nixon get his due. Thanks Hillary. Coyotl Dec 2016 #49
Saw they were on MFM008 Dec 2016 #50
We analyzed them in my 6th grade citizenship class. CentralMass Dec 2016 #52
I watched them when I could, and when they were on during the day spent my lunch hour.... George II Dec 2016 #53
I was but a schoolchild at the time, but I remember them being on TV. nt Gore1FL Dec 2016 #54
Every moment. Compelling. Lint Head Dec 2016 #57
I had just graduated from nursing school, and made the... 3catwoman3 Dec 2016 #58
Heck yes! murielm99 Dec 2016 #59
I still have my copy of the Whitehouse transcripts n/t wryter2000 Dec 2016 #61
Watched nearly every moment wryter2000 Dec 2016 #60
Let's hope there's a hearing that results in ManBaby boarding a helicoper ala Nixon. Vinca Dec 2016 #62
It was small change compared to Russiagate! Had to get Russiagate doc03 Dec 2016 #63
Watched every minute of the Ervin committee hearings. duffyduff Dec 2016 #65
One of the highlights of my life UTUSN Dec 2016 #67
I was 10, and rushed home after school to watch them lostnfound Dec 2016 #68
Watched as much as I could! Lifelong Protester Dec 2016 #69
Bits and pieces Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #70
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Simiply the Democrats allowed
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:34 PM
Dec 2016

the incomplete process of Impeachment to go to fruition . Nixon walked away.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
4. Ultimately the conversation will turn to what kompromat Russia got from the RNC and Republicans.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
Dec 2016

Once it's broadly known that Russia hacked and withheld info on Republicans... it only remains to know what they got.

I think all RNC emails should be released to the public.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. There's been a bad smell wafting from Washington for a long time.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

Maybe this will help get rid of it and the players who are stinking up the joint.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
36. I remember it too.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:23 PM
Dec 2016

One could also look at the Benghazi/email probes, which caused tremendous damage based on far less actual wrongdoing than either Watergate or 9/11.

Once the media starts to make money on the hearings, they will take on a life of their own.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
6. Not all, but I watched a good bit.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:25 PM
Dec 2016

The end result was my favorite--Nixon going back to California in shame. Although now that I think about it, I don't think he was ashamed at all.

I remember as related above, the claims of taking the 5th, etc. . . . I don't have ANY objective evidence to support my theory, but I do BELIEVE that Herr tRump will not make it through 4 years.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
9. I just wish there was more time for this to play out and that Trump would be
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Dec 2016

exposed as a fraud and a cheat, as he will be, before the electors meet.

CincyDem

(6,358 posts)
10. Watched almost every day.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:29 PM
Dec 2016


Got out of school at 2:00pm so I was home for much of the afternoon session. If it was particularly juicy, I usually talked my folks into cutting class. Worth every second.

I'm not sure how I felt about it at the time but looking back on it, my sense is that it was a bunch of guys working to keep the system from being corrupt. Pretty sure that today's partisanship driven my R's "party first, country next" view of the world would ever let something like this happen again. I really do believe it was a once in a lifetime experience.

Would love to be wrong. Would love to see the American government - as represented by both sides of the aisle - outraged that a foreign power, particularly THIS foreign power, was f'ing with our elections.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
11. Much of the hearing about Russia will be closed.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Dec 2016

Too much classified information for a public hearing. It may be the Intelligence Committee who hears it, in which case almost all of it will be closed and not broadcast.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
13. I don't think that will play in Peoria so to speak.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:36 PM
Dec 2016

There is going to be a hue and cry to make them open. Not only from the public, but the media as well.
They can deal with how to use the classified material in the best way, but most of the hearing should be open.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
19. It doesn't have to "play in Peoria," frankly.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:41 PM
Dec 2016

And whatever "hue and cry" that goes up will be countered with reference to classified materials that will presented at any such hearing. Pretty much the entire hearing will deal with classified information, and so can't be conducted in public.

That's not how I'd like it to be, but I suspect strongly that is how it will be. We will have to depend on our Democratic members of Congress or Senators to make sure it's all on the up and up. Congress has a long-standing habit of ignoring the "hue and cry" of the public, particularly when there is no election coming up soon.

Our control of Congress is limited to voting for those who represent us. We can communicate with Congress, but there is no law requiring that Congress listens to us.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
14. Me, too shraby
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:38 PM
Dec 2016

As they were happening "back in the day".

If they're on the web - go find them and watch! Amazing things can happen in this government even in a time when people are busy or just glued to Twitter. Resist the short attention span for which you are being groomed.

Real things happen when Congress asks the tough questions because people are interested enough in their future to become engaged.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
24. i was gonna say they interrupted my soaps. no dark shadows. grrr.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Dec 2016

i didnt hate 'em, tho. i was cheering.

nini

(16,672 posts)
28. No Dark Shadows?!?!?!?!
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:08 PM
Dec 2016

That is completely unacceptable.. I used to run home from school not to miss Barnabas

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
40. I remember that as well
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:33 PM
Dec 2016

That's probably why I grew up not liking Republicans and Nixon! I would come home from school and Watergate would be on the TV and not my afternoon cartoons.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
20. Another thing that happened which could happen in this when it gets
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:50 PM
Dec 2016

started.
During questioning, it inadvertently came out that there was a machine that recorded conversations in Nixon's office that wasn't common knowledge.

That led to the "gap in the tape" because of Rosemary Woods.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
25. Alexander Porter Butterfield!
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:57 PM
Dec 2016

That's when shit got real - "Tapes? Oh really?"

My first real political memories growing up were Watergate and the fall of Vietnam.

And people wonder why I'm sort of pessimistic by nature . . .

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
22. I remember. I was 12 or 13 @ the time...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 04:21 PM
Dec 2016

and I was pissed that my soap operas were pre-empted to show the Watergate Hearings...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
26. I watch - way back when
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:04 PM
Dec 2016

I was fascinated by the hearings. It seems that the Republicans have been in pay-back mode ever since. The lesson that the GOP learned was DON'T GET CAUGHT. So now they rig state elections to gerrymander and suppress the vote.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
55. Yes, they are still in payback mode and their hatred for Hillary starts with her work on the Comm.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:00 PM
Dec 2016

Hillary was one of the incredibly brilliant attorneys who brought Nixon down, and they will never forgive that. They are still passing around false information about her on it, using this photo for them.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
43. yes, and by big margins
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:37 PM
Dec 2016

58-42 in the Senate and I think Democrats had around 250 House seats. There were also liberal Republicans at the time: Lowell Weicker of Connecticut made a name for himself with his tough questioning of Republicans. Joe Lieberman beat him years later by running to Weicker's right.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
30. Me. Every day, all the time.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:09 PM
Dec 2016

You couldn't get away from them back then. Of course, we only had three or four real channels, and the major three networks aired the hearings live. Didn't matter where you went, from a local diner to the barber shop, it was the only thing on tv. It was pretty huge stuff.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
31. I did and nothing that has ever happened is more distressing and fearful than right now.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:10 PM
Dec 2016

I felt then that we would come out okay in the end.

Even when the Idiot Son stole the election, while it bothered me deeply it didn't lead me to a sense of palpably deep concern that is beginning to border on a fear for the survival of our freedom as the unhinged behavior of this egomaniac is doing today.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
32. Didn't have a TV, but
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:11 PM
Dec 2016

listened to the hearings on the radio. I was working with one of the leaders of the local SDS, doing grunt lab tech work, and the lab manager had no problems with us listening.

Fichefinder

(167 posts)
35. Where is a Senator Sam Ervin when you need one?
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:16 PM
Dec 2016

Democrat from North Carolina, He was a constitutional scholar and the hero of the Watergate hearings. He was, to my recollection, the first one that asked "What did you know, and when did you know it". We watched it every day in history class in High School.

blue neen

(12,321 posts)
51. I think Sen. Howard Baker is the one who asked the question
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:55 PM
Dec 2016

"What did the President know and when did he know it?".

procon

(15,805 posts)
37. My dad was a stickler about getting us kids interested in current events,
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:24 PM
Dec 2016

or at least indoctrinating us. We watched, he explained, opined and commented... oh, and there will be a pop quiz during dinner. In between our studied indifference, the eyerolls, heaving sighs and fidgeting, we all managed to learn something in spite of ourselves. Now I dutifully plop my old keester down in front of the TV and eagerly adsorb all the unbelievable current events of the bizarre era that I live in now. It's better than reading a suspense novel, and I carry on the family tradition of catcalls, raspberries, boos and even the odd cheering applause.

Thanks, Pops!

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
41. My Grandfather
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

I would go to my Grandparents' house after school and he made sure I sat there and watched the hearings. He told me "You will study this in school", he always told me Nixon was a crook too. That man HATED Nixon.

TrishaJ

(798 posts)
42. Count me in. I remember them very
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:35 PM
Dec 2016

well. I still remember the day the Republicans in the House turned on Nixon. He resigned the next day.

Stuart G

(38,427 posts)
44. I remember John Dean testifying, and thinking, "I wonder if there if proof to what he is saying..."
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:38 PM
Dec 2016

His testimony was so different than what the Nixon White House said......but there was an "honest feel" and details which were totally believable ..So, it came out that there was "proof" and John Dean was telling the truth and the entire Nixon crew lied, and many went to jail..

Mike Nelson

(9,955 posts)
48. Repubicans control Congress...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:43 PM
Dec 2016

...so I don't expect any similar hearings against Republicans. The do like Pence, though, so maybe articles of impeachment could be proposed. Not a big chance, but possible. And, with Pence, we're still doomed.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
52. We analyzed them in my 6th grade citizenship class.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

We had a great teacher. They dont even offer the class these days. We were paired in tbe class and my team mate and i guessed thst he would resign (luck and politically engaged parents helped).

However i recal there were 3 articles of impeachment.
I think the first was obstruction of justice and rhe second eas abuse of power and i forgot the third.


George II

(67,782 posts)
53. I watched them when I could, and when they were on during the day spent my lunch hour....
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 05:58 PM
Dec 2016

....in the car listening to them.

I want to remind people that they were a great lesson in patriotism and bipartisanship. Republicans were just as interested in finding out the truth as Democrats, and it was Lowell Weiker (Republican at the time) who was most incisive with his questioning, and it was Barry Goldwater who visited Nixon and told him it was over.

I just hope that republicans this time around are as interested in justice as they were 40 years ago.

3catwoman3

(23,987 posts)
58. I had just graduated from nursing school, and made the...
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:18 PM
Dec 2016

...mistake of taking a 2 semester summer class in organic chemistry, thinking I wanted to apply to med school (got scared off when I got a "C" and never did apply). So, not much time, but whenever I was home, my mom was "glued" to the TV screen.

She would watch it in real time, and the watch it again in the evening re-broadcast.

murielm99

(30,740 posts)
59. Heck yes!
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:19 PM
Dec 2016

I was a Watergate junkie. I came home from work and watched the hearings on PBS until all hours of the night. Then I got up early and went to work all over again. I was exhausted. I still have all the books written about the topic.

This is so much worse.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
60. Watched nearly every moment
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 06:22 PM
Dec 2016

I thought there would be hearings about Bush's many atrocities. I hope something finally happens now. We'll need more Republicans who care about the country before that happens.

doc03

(35,337 posts)
63. It was small change compared to Russiagate! Had to get Russiagate
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:33 PM
Dec 2016

in there, I assume that will be what it is called.
or
Putingate
Trumpgate
Traitorgate
Shitlergate
Tweetgate
Twittergate
Hackgate

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
65. Watched every minute of the Ervin committee hearings.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 07:42 PM
Dec 2016

I predicted before the election night in 1972 that Nixon would either be impeached or resign. Nobody believed me.

Guess who was right?

lostnfound

(16,179 posts)
68. I was 10, and rushed home after school to watch them
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:39 AM
Dec 2016

Every day. It was fascinating, and I admired Sam Irvin and John Dean.

Lifelong Protester

(8,421 posts)
69. Watched as much as I could!
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 12:51 AM
Dec 2016

The senators on that committee were my heroes (I have autographed pictures of all of them). I was in the audience when they were grilling L. Patrick Gray to replace Hoover. Nothing exciting until they asked him if he knew anything about the Watergate break-ins....then the cameras started rolling.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
70. Bits and pieces
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:03 AM
Dec 2016

What I remember most from that time was Nixon's press conference where he uttered the famous phrase "I am not a crook". Around February of 1974 or so.

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