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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:21 PM Dec 2016

Here's my hope

That the C.I.A. has proof of direct communication between tRump and Russian authorities and that it comes out soon.

Or, that they have proof that his campaign did.

Wouldn't it be a great day if Obama had proof and called an address to the nation?

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canetoad

(17,136 posts)
1. My hope is
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

That one of the smartest constitutional lawyers in the US, with two beautiful daughters and an equally clever wife, all soon to be private citizens living under DFT's fucking rule, is working quitely but furiously behind the scenes to ensure his family's future.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
3. Obama wouldn't want to be "political"
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:27 PM
Dec 2016

I am cynical and in despair. I read a very long interview with him in the New Yorker. His attitude-it's not the Apocalypse with Trump winning So he's waiting for the apocalypse to happen before he does anything. He could have fired Comey. He could address the nation. But he believes in the institutions saving us. How? The courts? Stacked. Deadlocked. How? I see nothing but doom. I hope you are right though we are watching America end. I really think most people have zero idea.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
5. I believe that Obama's blindspot is glaring
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Dec 2016

He cannot change anymore than Trump.

I wish we could morph him into Bernie Sanders right now we need HONESTY and STRENGTH.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
4. I read a while ago that Trump had a private server directly to Putin/Russia .
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:28 PM
Dec 2016

Does anyone else remember reading/ hearing that an if it is true?
I certainly don't want to spread false news...but I did hear someone say that.

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
8. I read about that
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Dec 2016

but in the end it came to nothing. The suspicious traffic could have been junk mail.

Lurker Deluxe

(1,036 posts)
10. ?
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:34 PM
Dec 2016

What is a "private server directly to Putin/Russia"?

By definition would that not be a shared server with Putin? Where would the server be? China? Or did they just link their cloud storage?


haele

(12,640 posts)
7. Confusion no matter what happens. Better confusion if the truth comes out.
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:30 PM
Dec 2016

But certain venal, hateful, fearful conservative bullies will still claim that this is a false flag event; they've already decided that Obama wants a third term. The bullies honestly believe they deserve to be rulers, and there's been too many of them getting too wealthy and power drunk over the past 40 years because the rest of the country figured the progressives would clean up after them. By 2008, it would have taken Superman to do so. And the current administration is only human, with their own motivations and internal turf wars to deal with as well as the business of the country.

I suspect that's why the Justice Department hasn't done anything since the first concerns were raised 16 months ago; the prospect was civil war then or civil war later.

The Conservative Elite's playbook is not that much different than that of Plantation Economy adherents over 170 years ago...

Haele

FigTree

(347 posts)
11. I believe the data
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:35 PM
Dec 2016

are there. I believe it has something to do with your typical intelligence set-up (e.g. sex, money). I believe the KGB has been on it for a while. I believe there is a loose thread somewhere in the tax returns. I believe US intel has at least part of it. The problem is who is going to leak it, why and when. This is a strategic (i.e. science of the goals) question not a tactical one.
That's a lot of beliefs for a non-believer...

CrispyQ

(36,421 posts)
12. I believe that unless multiple agencies/organizations/groups with authority challenge this election,
Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:38 PM
Dec 2016

we will slide into complete fascism with a Trump presidency. The time is now, for all of us - CIA/DOJ/Democratic Leadership/We The People - to try to stop this nightmare.

Yesterday I read something Trump said something about being in office for eight years. The GOP runs the government - WH, Senate, House & a majority of state legislatures. They outright stole the the Democratic nomination for SCOTUS, & I don't recall hearing much of an objection from the Democratic Party about that. The dems didn't just drop the ball, they lost the fucking game & they better regroup fast or the America we all knew will be gone.

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