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lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:27 PM Dec 2016

Post your estimate of how long it will take for the pro-frumps to turn on him

Assuming the GOP is actually going to scrub the Affordable Healthcare Act on day one, eliminate Social Security thereafter, drop corporate tax rates, and plunge us into even greater deficits, how long will it take for the news meme to change into "It's Trump's fault."?

He's already refused to:

1.prosecute Hillary
2. Build the wall
3. deport aliens
4. replace manufacturing/coal/iron/lumber jobs
5. get lobbyists out of government

and lots more that come to mind.

When will the meme be, "He turned into just another crooked politician?"

I say, one year.

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Post your estimate of how long it will take for the pro-frumps to turn on him (Original Post) lindysalsagal Dec 2016 OP
What makes you think they will? ailsagirl Dec 2016 #1
They knew Trump because he was a reality TV star... Blanks Dec 2016 #26
This! rusty fender Dec 2016 #28
Sadly, if you ask them what they think he will do... Blanks Dec 2016 #49
All of the five items mentioned Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #2
exactly - they're just lower priority 0rganism Dec 2016 #15
First thing the Rethugs have to screw up is the Budget that is due in April Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #25
How long will it take Trump to convince his supporters that someone else is to blame? guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3
Yes. He won't be held to account. They will cast the blame elsewhere. Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #22
Exactly. It took 7 disastrous years for W's support, Hortensis Dec 2016 #27
One year shenmue Dec 2016 #4
As soon as they start losing .. ananda Dec 2016 #5
If disability checks disappear WhiteTara Dec 2016 #40
Turn on him? Many will go back to being apolitical...and fade into the background Freethinker65 Dec 2016 #6
Trump Humper are already getting pissed. Lint Head Dec 2016 #7
I actually think they are, too. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #11
I've seen Twitter posts where people are disallusioned. Lint Head Dec 2016 #12
Even if they feel betrayed by him, they'll never Laurian Dec 2016 #8
Individual responses will vary gratuitous Dec 2016 #9
I'm not sure, but I'll be watching the DOW index for the first indication. rgbecker Dec 2016 #10
The dow says how happy investors are: It rises during unemployment. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #14
Where I live, if the market is doing well those that have money to spend, spend it. rgbecker Dec 2016 #23
Maybe when they start dying after he takes away their health insurance and Social Security LonePirate Dec 2016 #13
Or when the mother-in-law moves in with them Warpy Dec 2016 #18
Or maybe when they have to sell the house to pay their grown kid's medical bills lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #19
And when their kids have to live permanently home becasue jobs suck and the kids are RKP5637 Dec 2016 #36
I give him six months at the most Warpy Dec 2016 #16
A year or less. His conflicts of interest are where my hopes lie. Also his non stop twitter TrekLuver Dec 2016 #17
Maybe when their kids get thrown out of their trendy charter schools lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #20
They'll never turn on him. Any problems will be blamed on Obama & the democrats. crazylikafox Dec 2016 #21
Never .... etherealtruth Dec 2016 #24
Obama will be the scapegoat. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #42
There's actually a Twitter account and Tumblr that octoberlib Dec 2016 #29
LOTS of #trumpgrets: Lost value in the Lockeed retirement with his tweets. lindysalsagal Dec 2016 #34
Main themes: hatrack Dec 2016 #37
They really, really , really want him to stop tweeting.Lol octoberlib Dec 2016 #45
Never oberliner Dec 2016 #30
Count me in the "never" category. cry baby Dec 2016 #31
At which point-a 9/11 event to "Pull the country together". jalan48 Dec 2016 #32
I.E. and convertible that makes Mike the president. briv1016 Dec 2016 #39
31st of February rpannier Dec 2016 #33
They will be told it's Obama's fault and they will believe it. These people are damn fools. They RKP5637 Dec 2016 #35
I'll say the same thing I said yesterday in a similar post. briv1016 Dec 2016 #38
Never resistance2016 Dec 2016 #41
Never. (nt) enough Dec 2016 #43
decades KT2000 Dec 2016 #44
When gas prices reach $4.00 per gallon which should happen in 2017 n/t Greywing Dec 2016 #46
Less than 3 months riverwalker Dec 2016 #47
never Skittles Dec 2016 #48

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
26. They knew Trump because he was a reality TV star...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:06 PM
Dec 2016

The people who voted for him don't follow politics. They watch reality TV programs.

They'll never turn on him. Because they have no idea what's going on except on reality TV.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
28. This!
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:12 PM
Dec 2016

Dumbfucks from Dumbfuckistan. They didn't vote for him to do anything, really; he is the anti-Obama. That's all that matters to them.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
49. Sadly, if you ask them what they think he will do...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:39 PM
Dec 2016

Since he didn't actually campaign on anything, they can't really tell you.

They're just so happy that their team won, and they know that's a good thing.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
15. exactly - they're just lower priority
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:38 PM
Dec 2016

he's putting that shit, along with some other treats, on the back burner, to be rolled out piecemeal when he needs a boost from his base
they'll be as miserable as ever, so they'll take a handy scapegoat over nothing at all
why would he throw them all the cookies at once when he can hand them out as needed to get support?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
25. First thing the Rethugs have to screw up is the Budget that is due in April
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:02 PM
Dec 2016

Watch for the Tea-Bagger flame throwers to after the Immigratin and Muslims thing in February giving cover for the Whack ACA crowd. During all this,1% er Tax bill will pass on voice vote retroactive to January 1.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. How long will it take Trump to convince his supporters that someone else is to blame?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:31 PM
Dec 2016

He may be a terrible business man, a cheat, and a liar, but he is good at selling people on the idea of Trump.

Just as Reagan was good at selling himself even as his policies made life worse fro most Americans.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. Exactly. It took 7 disastrous years for W's support,
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:09 PM
Dec 2016

i.e., those who said they felt he was doing a good job, to drop below 30%. At the very end, it was down to an unheard-of 15% or so. Itm, almost everything will be the Democrats' fault.

But, for the OP, <1 year until Trump is removed from office, though not by the electorate.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
5. As soon as they start losing ..
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:32 PM
Dec 2016

.. healthcare, Social Security benefits, Medicare,
and Medicaid.

It has to hit them where they live because they
have too much ignorance and bias to be able
to see the truth about Trump until it directly
affects them.

Of course, this is just a sad shame for all of us
because they're taking us down with them.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
11. I actually think they are, too.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Dec 2016

They are so stupid, they didn't catch on that he couldn't do any of it, even if he wanted to.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
8. Even if they feel betrayed by him, they'll never
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:34 PM
Dec 2016

admit it. To do so would be to admit their stupidity. I know some of these folks, they'll suffer in silence or perhaps find some tangential excuse for the mess, but they'll never admit they were wrong.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Individual responses will vary
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Dec 2016

But as a group, I see the Trump supporters refusing to admit that they were duped in any way, that they actually believed what Trump was promising them, or that they are disappointed by his string of broken promises. There will be mind-boggling rationalizations and justifications for all of it, as well as a steady stream of scapegoat candidates supplied by Fox News. Never read the comments, but if you traipse through the comments on any news story about a broken promise, there are a scabillion excuses as well as outright denial that Trump ever made a promise; that if he made a promise he hasn't broken it yet; that if he made a promise and broke it that it doesn't matter anyway; that if he made a promise, broke it, and it mattered, then Obama or Clinton or somebody else did something worse, so it's a good thing that Trump broke a very important promise.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
10. I'm not sure, but I'll be watching the DOW index for the first indication.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Dec 2016

So far the market loves the billionaire cabinet and the fed raising rates will move bonds into stocks...but I can't imagine this market continuing it's current trend much longer.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
14. The dow says how happy investors are: It rises during unemployment.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Dec 2016

Actually, domestic happiness and dow surges tend to work in opposition: What's good for management is never good for labor.

rgbecker

(4,831 posts)
23. Where I live, if the market is doing well those that have money to spend, spend it.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

That helps those who are working for or providing services to the investor class. When the market tanks, investors stop putting money into the market, stop spending money and unemployment increases as new jobs dry up and people start competing with each other for the old jobs.

Meanwhile, those just getting by barely affording groceries and rents won't be affected by a raising dow, but will certainly be affected when it falls, as it did in 2008. I'll be watching the Dow, because when 2008 repeats itself, that's when Trump voters are going to show up in the streets.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
18. Or when the mother-in-law moves in with them
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:40 PM
Dec 2016

because she can't afford to live independently on reduced Social Security.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
19. Or maybe when they have to sell the house to pay their grown kid's medical bills
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:43 PM
Dec 2016

because their chronic conditions are expensive.....

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
36. And when their kids have to live permanently home becasue jobs suck and the kids are
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
Dec 2016

woefully uneducated plus innately genetically stupid.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
16. I give him six months at the most
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:40 PM
Dec 2016

before the backlash starts. It's hard to know what will finally trigger it, those folks learn real slow.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
17. A year or less. His conflicts of interest are where my hopes lie. Also his non stop twitter
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:40 PM
Dec 2016

rants will become tiresome to more mainstream supporters. Who the hell wants a President who is all about "the drama?? People are going to get tired of this shit.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
20. Maybe when their kids get thrown out of their trendy charter schools
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:44 PM
Dec 2016

because they bring the test score averages down.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
24. Never ....
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 07:59 PM
Dec 2016

... they will blame it on congress or the courts for refusing to let tRump force Muslims to wear crescent moons and a star on their clothing and register "with the state", or refusing to deport all people of hispanic heritage .... they'll insist the tax cuts for the uber wealthy just weren't enough to create the billions of high paying jobs that tRump wanted to create They'll hug their guns close (to which they will now have complete free and unfettered access) and they'll be comforted in knowing the undeserving no longer have access to healthcare and that women do not have access to abortions (or even birth control)

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
29. There's actually a Twitter account and Tumblr that
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:15 PM
Dec 2016

aggregates all the disappointed Shitler voter's tweets.


#Trumpgrets Retweeted
Diego ?@lehhgoDiego 14h14 hours ago
@realDonaldTrump for us who voted for you, it's going to be a problem if you pick an oil tycoon for sec. of State #draintheswamp

#Trumpgrets Retweeted
Kyle F ?@Skol_1993 12h12 hours ago
@realDonaldTrump Thx for f*king over every single person that voted for you by filling your cabinet with billionaires. Making me look stupid

ditchobama ?@ditchobama 12h12 hours ago
@realDonaldTrump Please! No more Wall Streeters!. Appointing that money grubber from Goldman is the exact opposite of WHY we voted for YOU!


jobschildren ?@jobschildren Dec 11
@realDonaldTrump Voted for you. Please listen to those who support you. Delete the twitter account. It's nothing but trouble.



#Trumpgrets Retweeted
Larissa Fedotov ?@SaucyWalker63 Dec 11
@realDonaldTrump @NBCNightlyNews @CNN will you please stop whining. I voted for you but damn. Shut up a while.

https://twitter.com/trumpbigregrets


https://trumpgrets.tumblr.com/

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
34. LOTS of #trumpgrets: Lost value in the Lockeed retirement with his tweets.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:30 PM
Dec 2016
#Trumpgrets Retweeted
Ashley Mack ?@AshleyMackArt Dec 12
@realDonaldTrump — Lockheed F35 is 100,000+ jobs. My dad works there & voted for you. You repay with tweets that crash his 401k retirement.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
37. Main themes:
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
Dec 2016

1. Wall!
2. Lock her up!
3. Deport!
4. Shitty Cabinet picks!
(and my personal favorite):
5. Get off Twitter and shut the fuck up!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
30. Never
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

His supporters watch Fox News and listen to Hannity who has already excused all five of those things and no one cares.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
33. 31st of February
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:29 PM
Dec 2016

In other words, never
His supporters will not turn on him, they'll blame others
Those that aren't real supporters probably will

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
35. They will be told it's Obama's fault and they will believe it. These people are damn fools. They
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:31 PM
Dec 2016

can't comprehend anything except misinformation and hatred.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
38. I'll say the same thing I said yesterday in a similar post.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:39 PM
Dec 2016

"As long as Donald can provide a scapegoat (Obama, Mexicans, Muslims) they will never accept blame."

 

resistance2016

(86 posts)
41. Never
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:13 PM
Dec 2016

They love him. He's the "alpha male" they've begged for on their knees - cruel, greedy, racist, sexist, vile to the core. He could mail them a box of his shit and they'd weep in joy for such a blessing.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
44. decades
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:51 PM
Dec 2016

they have not moved on from hating Hillary, Obama, immigrants, non-whites, and whatever else Bannon comes up with. He will keep them stirred up for a long, long time.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
47. Less than 3 months
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 10:17 PM
Dec 2016

They may be passionate believers, but they are very very very shallow. When they start to turn all that vitriol and hatred they now have for Clinton, minorities, immigrants, Muslims towards Trump, look out. Sit back and enjoy the show.

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