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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is Ivanka Trump entitled to the Office and benefits of the First Lady?
...there's nothing compelling her to the functions of that office, like marriage.
It would make sense for Trump's wife to be afforded a staff and a budget, but I don't believe the role or the office was designed or intended to be transferable to other family members, in this case, just because his wife isn't in residence at the WH.
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Ivanka to get White House office in space reserved for First Lady, although Republicans insist it's not weird http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-moving-lady-white-house-space-article-1.2910826
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putitinD
(1,551 posts)agincourt
(1,996 posts)I guess we have to get over our political correctness and just accept these things??? Not be critical or negative, wtf?
HAB911
(8,873 posts)Ivanka's likely to become Fourth Lady
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Fearless Leader gets to call the shots and if you don't like it,firing squad meets in five minutes.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)creepy picture.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)seriously creepy.....or very cold.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Ugh, I would be so creeped out to see those anal lips coming toward me.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)......................
Tanuki
(14,916 posts)he tells her. Trump wants to catapult Ivanka to a position of the highest visibility and influence, and what better platform? Keeping Melania sequestered in Trump Tower with his latest known kid will also liberate him to grab whatever comes his way a little more easily.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)She doesn't seem to want anything to do with her husband. Seeing them together it doesn't look at all like a love match. I think she is perfectly happy to be in New York away from him. Not that I blame her.
But, Ivanka is not allowed to do this. She is just one of his kids, not an employee of the government. This is illegal, along with everything he has done. Where the hell is the media, other than bending over for Herr Orangeilini.
Besides not divesting any of her interests in the Dumpster Org., there are laws about cronyism and nepotism.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)why you say this is illegal? I haven't seen anything indicating it is actually illegal, so I'm curious.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Heck even trump isn't taking a salary. I think we've had many family members over the past two centuries fill in the duties. So much more to complain about trump then an unpaid position. I can see this taking the main focus in the next month while all his cabinet pick pass through the senate with ease because the focus is on the daughter making flower arrangements.
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Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)this is what I keep hearing....so....that means that we are giving him a few hours free on the $1 million a day it is going to cost to fortify NY for the legal mrs. trump
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)and look at those daggers/smoldering look in Melania's eyes. Def a Russian mole
hunter
(38,309 posts)solara
(3,836 posts)Melania is trump's 'beard' She acts the part of his wife, they have a child to seal the deal, she gets the money, but she pretty much stays out of things so that Ivanka can assume her duties as surrogate wife and now First Lady. The whole world is watching and yet, not very many people see anything wrong with this picture mostly because trump has been honest about his feelings for his daughter and there are many slightly dubious pictures around and though there were some arched eyebrows, no one really batted an eye.
He can't help it, "He is a sucker for beauty" And how can actual proof of incest be found?
Is it really against the law to be in a common law relationship with your own daughter? Ivanka will get everything her Daddy wants her to have, high security clearing, First Lady's office, staff, duties and paycheck. Melania will receive her own paycheck and recede further into the background with her 'little man'
And all will be cozy in the White House.
Luz
(772 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Tanuki
(14,916 posts)whole lotta perks.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I am sure, and lives in luxury (though with duties) but probably not a paycheck per se.
bdamomma
(63,814 posts)she is always around even at those meeting he was having with leaders, he is obsessed with her.
solara
(3,836 posts)Now that trump will be arguably the most powerful man in the world he can do what he damn well pleases, and it pleases him to have his Daughter/Surrogate Wife with him at all times and in on the "deals" he will be making with the world.
Incest will soon be a moot item on the "bad boy trump" list., just as sexual assault has become.
Warpy
(111,224 posts)Ivanka is, after all, American and would have the social graces expected by other Americans from the White House's official hostess.
Malaria seems to be MIA lately. Either she didn't want the job or was found lacking the talent for it.
Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)That is a special kind of fucked up.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)was forged from the great orange sperm is a close confidant. He is a co-dependent nightmare.
You think he really talks to Melania about anything substantial....LOL ..know he reserves that for his second wife...his daughter.
Trashpot is in office now and he'll do what he likes.
treestar
(82,383 posts)widowed or single presidents assigned someone else. Never before has a married POTUS assigned someone else, but I suppose they could.
Say a president had a spouse with a full time job or career of their own. They could pick someone else to be the host of parties and all that FLOTUS stuff.
bigtree
(85,984 posts)...and we shouldn't be paying for grown children of Presidents to run PR for them out of the WH.
SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)Elect the first female president....
Ivanka and Jared are really running the show now, aren't they?
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)That gets bigger every day.
Yavin4
(35,430 posts)But I better not.
dawnie51
(959 posts)what's his deal? He and this weird marriage-with-daddy is very strange.
solara
(3,836 posts)Son-In-Law is Ivanka's 'beard'.
It would look a lot worse if Ivanka was single and doing Daddy, than this way when one can't be sure since she actually has a hubby.
yuck-o
barbtries
(28,787 posts)she's going to be the de facto president. weird, yes it is really weird.
RobinA
(9,888 posts)for when he actually needs one. She can read, pay attention, etc. That's why she's at meetings and on phone calls. He apparently trusts her, she and Jared keep him pointed in the right direction and running reasonably close to the rails. Even they can't keep him ON the rails.
madaboutharry
(40,200 posts)The weirdness between Ivanka and Trump is more than just creepy. He has allowed himself to be seen grabbing her in inappropriate ways, like when he tried to touch her ass on the stage at the convention. Anyone watching knows this is not unusual for them because her reflexive and defensive move of trying to knock his arm out of the way seemed like routine.
Melania had to memorize nice things to say about him during interviews and at the convention. None of her words had any emotion or credibility. "My husband is kind, he is generous, ........" It reads like something memorized off an index card. The body language between them when they are together is, to borrow a word from Donald, "sad".
And how Jared Kushner fits into all of this makes it all the more bizarre. Ivanka is his wife. He is close to Donald. Donald lusts after Ivanka. Ivanka has a relationship with her father that seems to go beyond that of a loyal daughter. It is all weird, so weird that no one can really explain it.
bdamomma
(63,814 posts)if you want to call them a "family". There are many skeletons in their closet.
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greatauntoftriplets
(175,729 posts)It may be the photo, but it looks like she's rubbing her left breast against him.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)onenote
(42,675 posts)Unless it violates an anti-nepotism law, hiring a relative to work for you isn't that big a deal. In the great scheme of things, there are far more things about how Trump intends to govern to get outraged about than this one.
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)RobinA
(9,888 posts)Ironic.
Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)enid602
(8,607 posts)I heard Ivanka's starring in a remake of Rosemary's Baby, with the Donald, of couse as Lucifer. Just hope it's not an x rated version.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Not the way First Ladies are treated anymore. So his daughter will apparently be fulfilling most of those duties. It's not without precedent. When Andrew Jackson's wife died, her niece took over whatever roles First Ladies filled in those days.
Sorceress
(309 posts)for someone else to fill in for FLOTUS duties, I do believe it is unprecedented for said person to be simultaneously executing the blind trust of the President. That is a major source of conflict. I also question whether someone has ever filled in for a healthy and alive wife of the President. Perhaps, it has happened. I don't know.
elleng
(130,834 posts)but your point is good. IF she's among those running his businesses, she shouldn't be in the White House.
Sorceress
(309 posts)in appearing to be ethical, you know?
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)The First Lady has no official government position, has no actual duties, authority over anything or responsibilities, doesn't receive a salary. There's nothing officially there to be in conflict with.
I doubt that the situation of someone covering for a living wife of a president, but I don't know of anything that requires a wife of a president to take it on. Unusual, even odd situation, I agree. I just don't see it a big deal.
Sorceress
(309 posts)FLOTUS Ivanka will have the opportunity to meet and likely, lunch with foreign dignitaries. The same dignitaries who could influence permits etc. for Trump Org projects. Her projects. But she will have the opportunity via the exploitation of her government position. While this may not be a conflict, per se, it sure is unethical and Ivanka shouldn't have the opportunity to personally gain from getting to schmooze via her FLOTUS position. It's messy. It's unseemly and that girl's word that she won't exploit her position is not enough.
I definitely don't think a spouse should be made to take the position. Not at all.And I don't think a spouse should be prohibited from continuing their career in order to be FLOTUS. I just feel that whomever takes it shouldn't be allowed to exploit it, at least on this scale.
Locut0s
(6,154 posts)There seems to be a good chance we may be looking at an incestuous father daughter relationship here. Trump has hinted at the possibility of course with crewed comments like:
Saying she's voluptuous.
He's said it's OK to describe her as a piece of ass
He's said that, if she wasn't his daughter, perhaps [he'd] be dating her
There's a possibility that her mother doesn't want the role of First Lady because she wants nothing to do with him or said relationship. This is of course pure speculation. Even if not true the word "creepy" certainly does fit very very well at the very least!
baldguy
(36,649 posts)Vinca
(50,251 posts)Did you have to post a nipple photo???????
elleng
(130,834 posts)Initech
(100,055 posts)underpants
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NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Ivanka is his partner. He sees her as another version of himself. If he were to sleep with Ivanka it would be more conceited masturbation than incest.