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Horse with no Name

(34,237 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 04:53 PM Dec 2016

So interestingly....talking about regionalizing the country

that divide would be crazy.

Wondering how that would happen?

Wondering how would the regions break down?

Obviously the South would be for conservatives....but there is a slice of Texas that is decidedly blue.

I have postponed a move that I have been trying to make for several years but finally in a position to do it.
So thinking about where I would end up is the fantasy that is halfway keeping me sane in these extraordinary times.

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So interestingly....talking about regionalizing the country (Original Post) Horse with no Name Dec 2016 OP
We have already attained that Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #1
In Texas Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #4
Being from Minnesota, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #7
There are blue pockets, some quite large, in various Southern states. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #12
Snag a copy of Joel Garreau's The Nine Nations of North America. KamaAina Dec 2016 #2
Intriguing! GreenPartyVoter Dec 2016 #5
I kind of think of that book ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #9
He actually covered some of that. KamaAina Dec 2016 #10
Good book, but snag Woodard's "American Nations: Hortensis Dec 2016 #11
Big chunks of Florida are blue, also mcar Dec 2016 #3
I predict the Republic of Cascadia will be established within a decade or two. Aristus Dec 2016 #6
There's really no clear regional breakdown ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #8
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. We have already attained that
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:01 PM
Dec 2016

Regionalism. And have been since Reagan. We are Bi-Coastal for the most part. And the Oasis is Colorado Denver Boulder and the Austin Texas for fly over land. And of course Minnesota will always be a leader as a Economic Engine.

Interesting how the Brain Drain is now in High Gear after the Trump debacle. Ironic how out of touch the Leadership of our Country is,and looks like it by design.

Horse with no Name

(34,237 posts)
4. In Texas
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:06 PM
Dec 2016

You can draw a line starting in the Rio Grande Valley and go to Austin/San Antonio and then swoop over and pick up El Paso. That is blue. Houston is blue. Dallas is blue. I can see Texas actually splitting into two places.
Personally I had wanted my big move to be north but will end up going west I believe.
I think if this ever happens, we will have East and West and a pretty good section of the North.
Midwest and South unfortunately would go red.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Being from Minnesota,
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:33 PM
Dec 2016

years ago we dubbed Austin as Minnesota South. 3M relocated several thousand Minnesotans to Austin since 1980. There again,with Gerrymandering,you folks are screwed royally.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,157 posts)
12. There are blue pockets, some quite large, in various Southern states.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

With the plus of lower living costs.
I am hoping the blue spreads.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
2. Snag a copy of Joel Garreau's The Nine Nations of North America.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:05 PM
Dec 2016

The boundaries are right on the cover.


ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
9. I kind of think of that book ...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:39 PM
Dec 2016

... as more sensationalist than anything. The south isn't Dixie. We people from the highlands are different than people from the lowlands and Louisiana (counting east Texas, west Mississippi and south Arkansas) have their own thing going as does Virginia and the Tidewater. I'm sure other parts of the country drawn under the author's broad brush are like that too.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. He actually covered some of that.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:23 PM
Dec 2016

He pointed out the pro-Union counties in northeast Alabama at the tip of the Appalachians, for instance. And he described New Orleans as an "aberration".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Good book, but snag Woodard's "American Nations:
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:36 PM
Dec 2016

A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America." Published 2013
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0052RDIZA/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

He makes a fascinating and compelling argument that our partisan divides are underlain by the power the original settling cultures still have over thinking in different regions today. Not that surprising when you think about it. My great-grandmother was born before the civil war. Her own great-grandmother would have been born some time in the late 1700s.

mcar

(45,977 posts)
3. Big chunks of Florida are blue, also
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:05 PM
Dec 2016

There is no such thing as an all red or all blue state. Even MA elects Rs as governor on a fairly regular basis.

That said, I am heartily sick of my slice of ruby red FL.

Aristus

(72,126 posts)
6. I predict the Republic of Cascadia will be established within a decade or two.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:08 PM
Dec 2016


There is no consensus as to what regions will make up the progressive Pacific Northwest Republic. A minimal construct might come by erasing the borderline between the states of Washington and Oregon.

Others see Northern California being added to the RoC; although I haven't seen anyone's prediction as to how the rest of California will react.

Broad, generous visions of the RoC include some or all of the Canadian Province of British Columbia; again no one cares to postulate how Canada might feel about losing one of its wealthiest provinces.

Anyway, as a haven for liberals and progressives, such a national breach is likely to result from an ultra-right-wing Trump administration.

Deep-red Eastern Washington would be better off casting their lot with Idaho, haven for white supramacists from all over the West coast.

ZoomBubba

(289 posts)
8. There's really no clear regional breakdown ...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

... even in blue California, about a third of the counties voted Trump and another third were within 5 percent of each other.

Aside from a couple of New England states, you're not going to be able to draw this break on state lines. You'd really be left with some shape that resembles the US (Republican-won areas) with some holes (the Democrat areas).

It's probably why we haven't split already. Most places, no matter where you go, vote at least 1/3 for Democrats/Republicans and can vary election to election. In 1984, the Democrat won only one state. What would we be saying if something like that happened again? "Everybody move to Minnesota (which went blue but was geographically majority red)?"

It's fun to contemplate, but not really something that provides for much dividing line.

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