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pbmus

(12,422 posts)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:32 PM Dec 2016

Is Joe Manchin the worst democratic senator?

Or is he just a dinosaur walking..?

I would not tell him any democratic plans whatsoever..., he would just turn around and tell all his repuker friends..

Please somebody challenge this Dino ...

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Is Joe Manchin the worst democratic senator? (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
He is deplorable./nt DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #1
better question, would WV appoint a more liberal democrat? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #2
Jay Rockefeller. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #3
so that's a yes, right? then he should primaried. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #4
He retired. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #5
agreed. i think we need to recognize that WV is not CA. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #6
I have my issues with Manchin... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #7
We are living in extraordinary times Horse with no Name Dec 2016 #8
Exactly, the guy is a Dinosaur pbmus Dec 2016 #9
You would just get someone more conservative than Manchin... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #10
Indeed. Only someone who is pro-coal will ever win WV. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #12
I think that even he is better than any Repug. He will at least vote with Dems. And that is key.(nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #11
Manchin is fighting for his life hollowdweller Dec 2016 #13
And most West Virginians consider him way to far left... ileus Dec 2016 #14
He hasn't been exactly supportive of our president. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #15
Joe LIEberman. nt madinmaryland Dec 2016 #16
Manchin is most likely the best we will get in WV. n/t OhioBlue Dec 2016 #17
 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. so that's a yes, right? then he should primaried.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:39 PM
Dec 2016

if its possible to get a more liberal democrat, we should. but if not, we should not.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
5. He retired.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:41 PM
Dec 2016

I welcome everybody to our party, even Blue Dog and DLC type Democrats but I draw the line at people who don't even have the most tenuous connection to Democratic values.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
7. I have my issues with Manchin...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:47 PM
Dec 2016

But it's not like he votes against us when we are in the majority. We can either be a permanent minority party or we can be a big tent coalition with Dems that cross the aisle every once in a while. Let's not have a heart attack every time a Blue Dog democrat up for reelection in 2018 does something that pleases their constituents that also voted for Donald Trump. It's going to get tiring.

Horse with no Name

(33,956 posts)
8. We are living in extraordinary times
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:50 PM
Dec 2016

the Democrats needs to block all of the odious dealings of this administration.
The ones that don't?
They need to be primaried.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
10. You would just get someone more conservative than Manchin...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:56 PM
Dec 2016

You think Manchin is going to lose the primary to someone more liberal than he is? Have you seen the candidates that the WV Dems field? Have you seen the people that win elected office in WV? The best way to obstruct Trump is to regain the majority. We're not going to do that if we don't put in the best candidates to win their individual state. His job is to please the voters of WV, not liberals in CA or NY.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. I think that even he is better than any Repug. He will at least vote with Dems. And that is key.(nt)
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 06:57 PM
Dec 2016
 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
13. Manchin is fighting for his life
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:38 PM
Dec 2016

He will lose in 2018 unless he does something good for WV. He worked with Toomey on his gun control bill and now all my neighbors vow to vote against him (I live in WV)

He tried to do something on those miners health benefits and the GOP fucked him. They know if they give him any good PR they cannot defeat him.

I think it's better to have a democratic senator who will vote with us on 1 bill than a GOP one who will vote on none. So in that way Manchin is good.

I think the Dems and Bernie should take up this miners health benefits bill and make a big stink about the GOP not working on it. Shelley Moore Capito our GOP senator should have done something and they should work at making her look bad in to WV voters, rub her nose in it.

Total honesty here. I have never voted for Manchin in any race in WV. I've always voted third party. First he lost a gubernatorial primary to Charlotte Pritt but then helped "Democrats for Underwood" the republican in the race. Then I was a public employee and Manchin was terrible to us as governor, I don't know any WV public employee who voted for him he was so demeaning to us.

Still I'd prefer him over any GOP who might win in WV and I dearly hope he wins re election but I think after his gun vote a dog may beat him here unless dems do something to help him. Which i think they should.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
14. And most West Virginians consider him way to far left...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:34 PM
Dec 2016

He's the most liberal democrat you're going to get in WV.

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