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Will Trump admin be better or worse than Dubya? (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP
A gazillion times worse DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #1
Gazillion plus infinity plus 1 metroins Dec 2016 #51
1000 times worse putitinD Dec 2016 #2
Easier question to answer that what is my name. I moonscape Dec 2016 #3
Can you imagine if Trump was pres on 9/11 ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #6
We're going to experience the unimaginable, we moonscape Dec 2016 #58
We are still reaping what W sowed. LisaM Dec 2016 #4
Well put. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #33
Never thought it would be possible, but Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #5
At least 10 times worse... pbmus Dec 2016 #7
Worse by far. No doubt in my mind. lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #8
People below him like Cheney, and Rumsfeld, and Yoo, and Bybee, and Powell, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #34
Shaping up to be worse Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #9
Way worse. beaglelover Dec 2016 #10
At least George W. Bush was a decent human being. Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #14
I never believed Bush was a predatory misogynist racist wishstar Dec 2016 #25
what you just wrote is very true Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #26
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #55
I basically mean in the way that I doubt he grabs women by their pussies. beaglelover Dec 2016 #36
I still wonder about him and Condi Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #42
If he and Condi did anything Island Blue Dec 2016 #57
If only we could ask all the dead Iraqis about Bush being a decent human being. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #37
Not for nothing, but Obama has killed his fair share of innocent people in the middle east. beaglelover Dec 2016 #38
But what a horrible choice, to have to pick between very bad and even worse. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #39
within six months you are going miss Bush Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #11
Simple. THE worst in my life time. Quite possibly, ever. Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #12
Much worse. nt DLevine Dec 2016 #13
imagine how bad it could be. it will be worse than that nt msongs Dec 2016 #15
much, much worse.. At least W understood the game.. annabanana Dec 2016 #16
DIFFERENT. Trump is batshit crazy - but he, so far, hasn't started a fake war Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2016 #17
He doesn't have the power ... yet etherealtruth Dec 2016 #21
So much worse that it cannot even be quantified. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #18
Obama's administration will be the golden age before the fall workinclasszero Dec 2016 #19
Better. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #20
I think W knew when he wasn't the smartest person in the room. forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #22
worse onethatcares Dec 2016 #23
Definitely worse, the problem is his ego MiniMe Dec 2016 #24
MUCH worse La Liones Priyanka .... LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #27
Hard to know hollowdweller Dec 2016 #28
Worse. neeksgeek Dec 2016 #29
America... wcmagumba Dec 2016 #30
We are so f---ed. GoCubsGo Dec 2016 #31
It's really hard to say... madinmaryland Dec 2016 #32
A billion times worse. montana_hazeleyes Dec 2016 #35
Bush had an agenda, and a team that knew how to play politics. cemaphonic Dec 2016 #40
Worse, much worse. GWB knew he was out of his league whereas DT thinks he's the smartest Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #41
It will be unpredictable. kentuck Dec 2016 #43
Worse Calculating Dec 2016 #44
Bush's reign will look like Camelot taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #45
Worse!!!!!! LAS14 Dec 2016 #46
His nominees are already a million times worse. Raine1967 Dec 2016 #47
endless nightmare type worse. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #48
Oh my god...Much much worse. As bad as Bush was, what we are about to experience, I fear, skylucy Dec 2016 #49
Worse by a Brazillian. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #50
However it pans out, it will not end well. tinrobot Dec 2016 #52
Well.. thegoose Dec 2016 #53
Trump is a blight of humanity and his victory already qualifies Charles Bukowski Dec 2016 #54
It is "W" on steroids nt doc03 Dec 2016 #56

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
1. A gazillion times worse
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:45 PM
Dec 2016

For all his flaws and they were manifest Bush loved his country. Trump only loves himself. Trump is a sociopath.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
58. We're going to experience the unimaginable, we
Thu Dec 15, 2016, 12:01 AM
Dec 2016

only don't know the what how or when. But the odds of something catastrophic happening due to his idiocy approaches 100%.

I so wish I didn't believe that.

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
4. We are still reaping what W sowed.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:47 PM
Dec 2016

The immediate damage might seem worse - and could be apocalyptic, which would be way worse - but the extent of harm W caused is yet to be determined.

His SCOTUS has certainly caused lasting harm, much of which we saw play out during this election cycle. We've barely recovered from his economic policies, and his wars continue.

I think it's a continuum from Reagan - unrestrained free market capitalism colliding with an upsurge in right-wing religions, which is playing out worldwide.



guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
33. Well put.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:31 PM
Dec 2016

Reagan was the racist hiding behind the mask of a nice old man.
Bush was the racist hiding behind the affected Texas accent.
Trump is the up front and open racist who sees no need to hide behind a mask.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
5. Never thought it would be possible, but
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:48 PM
Dec 2016

This is going to be a million × worse because like Bush, the Republicans will NEVER impeach Trump.

lpbk2713

(42,736 posts)
8. Worse by far. No doubt in my mind.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:50 PM
Dec 2016



At least Shit-for-Brains had people below him who could bail him out. And they had
to do it often. Trump is bringing people on board who are a literal wrecking crew.



guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
34. People below him like Cheney, and Rumsfeld, and Yoo, and Bybee, and Powell,
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:32 PM
Dec 2016

and Rice, and Feith? Those people?

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
25. I never believed Bush was a predatory misogynist racist
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:13 PM
Dec 2016

He was a stupid fool and I despised Bush and Cheney with a passion, but even with the Iraq invasion and his Axis of Evil rhetoric, I do not believe Bush was an Islamaphobe. He was foolish enough to believe Iraq would welcome us with open arms and everything there would work out successfully in just a few weeks after the invasion. He did not despise and scapegoat immigrants and Mexicans either.

Although Bush could be misleading and shady, he was careful in his remarks so he could never be caught in a boldfaced lie and impeached, whereas Dump lies constantly with impunity and so far is getting away with it

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
37. If only we could ask all the dead Iraqis about Bush being a decent human being.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:34 PM
Dec 2016

Perhaps we could poll all the Guantanamo detainees.

beaglelover

(3,460 posts)
38. Not for nothing, but Obama has killed his fair share of innocent people in the middle east.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:36 PM
Dec 2016

I'm not saying Bush is the most decent human being on the planet. Just that he's a more decent human being than Trump could ever hope to be.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
16. much, much worse.. At least W understood the game..
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 07:59 PM
Dec 2016

as wrong-headed as his every move was from beginning to end.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
18. So much worse that it cannot even be quantified.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:00 PM
Dec 2016

And the damage-- if not irreversible-- will take generations to repair.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Obama's administration will be the golden age before the fall
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:01 PM
Dec 2016

Bush's reign will be looked at kindly compared to Dumpfs reign of terror/error

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
22. I think W knew when he wasn't the smartest person in the room.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:04 PM
Dec 2016

Trump is completely full of himself, and has no problem steamrolling over people who don't share his worldview. He's got the Patrick Bateman 1980s sense of business and (likely) personal philosophy in that if he doesn't need you, and you can't benefit him in some way, there's no reason to keep you around. He enjoys getting the upper hand on people.

Trump says horrible things and doesn't give a shit. He is used to no consequences and has won the lottery in as far as he thinks he can do anything he wants and probably will be allowed to do so.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
27. MUCH worse La Liones Priyanka ....
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

Because now you have a Supreme Court that Cheeto Benito will stack which will greatly impact our lives in negative and grotesque ways for a generation PLUS.

You think voter suppression was bad under Bush or even Pres. Obama.

Wait until you see it under Cheeto and his bellow band of Merry deplorables.

We're triple screwed now

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
28. Hard to know
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

If he makes good on helping workers better.

However his cabinet choices are way worse than Bush.

GoCubsGo

(32,074 posts)
31. We are so f---ed.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:25 PM
Dec 2016

This shitstain on humanity is going to make Bush look like the love child of FDR and Gandhi. I don't believe our country, as we know it, is going to survive.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
32. It's really hard to say...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:30 PM
Dec 2016

As bad as * was he had connections that allowed him to let the unthinkable happen and then lie us into a war, which today is still resonating in the middle east. tRump is an unknown quantity. He may be far worse than *, though on the other hand nothing may happen, if he cannot get consensus on anything. To add, I do not think he is legitimate, but unfortunately it looks like we will be stuck with him. My concern is that the social progress that has been made over the last eight years could be wiped out in a matter of months, including all of the Supreme Court decisions. An all out assault on what we consider basic human rights.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
35. A billion times worse.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:33 PM
Dec 2016

I feel doom like never before. Ever. And I'm 68 years old and have seen and been through so much. But this is different.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
40. Bush had an agenda, and a team that knew how to play politics.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:39 PM
Dec 2016

Trump has a bunch of (politically improbable) soundbites, a "throw the bums out" attitude, and has demonstrated little evidence that he's willing to put in the actual work of being President. Not to mention a pretty hostile relationship with even the Republicans in Congress.

I think he'll be like Jesse Ventura's governorship once he figures out that he can't just order people around, and that his days will be filled with people hounding him for decisions 24/7.

He'll still be plenty damaging due to incompetence, and as a rubber stamp to a Republican Congress, but I don't think he has the ability to actually implement very many of his more extreme notions.

Arkansas Granny

(31,506 posts)
41. Worse, much worse. GWB knew he was out of his league whereas DT thinks he's the smartest
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:40 PM
Dec 2016

man in the room. I don't expect he will take advice from anyone, he's got such a good brain, you know.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
43. It will be unpredictable.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:48 PM
Dec 2016

He has said that he likes to be "unpredictable". Which means, no one knows.

It is the fear of the unknown that makes it dangerous.

"After all, what have you got to lose?"

It's mind over matter...if you don't mind, it don't matter.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
44. Worse
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 08:54 PM
Dec 2016

GWB at least surrounded himself with a team of somewhat competent individuals. Trump is surrounding himself with the residents of the insane asylum.

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
49. Oh my god...Much much worse. As bad as Bush was, what we are about to experience, I fear,
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 09:13 PM
Dec 2016

will be unlike anything we have experienced before. The degree of Trump's ignorance, mental instability, corruption, dishonesty, selfishness and arrogance is truly a threat to America and the world.

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
54. Trump is a blight of humanity and his victory already qualifies
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:22 PM
Dec 2016

as one of the lowest points in our history.

His presidency will undoubtedly be the worst we've ever seen.

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