OH Fuck, it's about to get real in here. Or it's not

[NightWatcher]

Last edited Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:08 PM - Edit history (1)

BREAKING NOW: MSNBC

FBI backs CIA view that Russian hacks intervened to help trump win. The story is in the Washington Post per Brian Williams.


Updated: Obama seems fine with election outcome and Russia's involvement. Weak.

[EricMaundry]

1. Yes!

Building towards EC day?

[MFM008]

2. The same Comey

That worked with the russkies to swing election to maggot?
I guess he would know.

[world wide wally]

10. The same Comey that Jake Trapper said would never, ever,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever,ever

do anything to influence an election?

[radical noodle]

30. Maybe he's hoping this will take the heat off him

blame it all on the Russians and we'll forget the part he played in this? Don't think so.

[nini]

3. Our toes are hanging over the cliff

I almost wonder if some will step up to keep us from going any further? After all if they don't start to help save the country they're going down with it too.

Maybe - just maybe - though I'm not holding my breath

[blue neen]

4. No kidding.

Where ya been, FBI?

[uponit7771]

5. LINK !!! What the mutha fuck !!! There's SOMETHING... SOMETHING goin on round here no doubt

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-backs-cia-view-that-russia-intervened-to-help-trump-win-election/2016/12/16/05b42c0e-c3bf-11e6-9a51-cd56ea1c2bb7_story.html?utm_term=.9c4277740fe9

[FarPoint]

6. So, will we fail to protect our Constitution?

Will we block an upcoming President tRump? Can we save ourselves from the GOP/ Kremlin Crime Family?

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

15. Hmmm...

... your, "GOP/Kremlin Crime Family", made me see,
GREMLIN.

[DK504]

24. We already have.

Not so much 'we', but the Congress and the media, they have failed us beyond all comprehension.

[MineralMan]

7. I see someone has provided a link downthread.

Links are essential in OPs to help other DUers go to the story.

[Warpy]

8. It's Frday

Usually that sort of thing evaporates over the weekend.

[elmac]

9. Well, according to what I'm hearing from the president

its not going to get real. Sounds to me like he's telling the Dems to let it go, move on, do that hope & change thingy.

[cwydro]

11. Yup.

And we saw no change.

And I've lost hope.

But hey ho, we got change coming now! Hang on.

[frogmarch]

14. I'm not one bit surprised.

I had an idea that Obama would pretty much say, "It's all over, folks, a done deal. Move along. Nothing to see here."

[Skittles]

48. yes

very predictable from Mr. "we need to look forward"

[LisaM]

16. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

I. Can't. Take. This.

[tenaciousdem]

39. I'm

right. there. with. ya! The whole thing just makes me physically ill.

[Leith]

17. It Sounds Like That to Me, Too

He seems so... how can I put this... understated.

All we have left now to hope for is that there is some real stuff going on behind the scenes that can't be talked about.

Well, that and reminding trumpanzees that they are getting what they voted until 2020.

[elmac]

18. After the amount of damage to our Democracy

that occurred this year and what will occur in the next 4 years we may never see another Democratic president in our lifetimes.

[HurricaneWarning]

19. That's what I'm hearing too.

[Miles Archer]

22. The only "action" I see on the horizon is Trump's inaguration.

So when he says that "We need to take action," I have no idea what that means. No idea at all. My first reaction to taking action in the wake of a rigged election would be a do-over, and that's not going to happen.

[elmac]

32. I keep thinking about how calm, collective Obama was

during the press party, the night before he took down Bin Laden. May be just hopeful thinking but maybe, just maybe there is a shit storm coming down on someone in the near future. If not, we all are in for a shit storm for the next 4 to 8 or more years.

[KPN]

23. Because as usual, he doesn't want to piss the other side off.

"When they go high, we go low." Come on Obama!!!! This is the friggin survival of any shred of democracy we're talking about here! Go big for once for crying out loud. So what if Trumpsters get angry -- they already were/are and are gloating about it.

[Skittles]

49. he still wants their acceptance

it is pathetic

[Captain1way]

12. The president really seems

Like he wants to skip town without addressing the Russian hacking
The story isn't going away for a few years

[PatSeg]

13. Here's another link

for people who can't access Washington Post. There is a limit on free articles.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/310769-fbi-backs-cia-report-on-russian-interference

[HurricaneWarning]

20. Too little. Too late.

[Ilsa]

21. It feels like it's over. The best we can do is try to stop trump

at every turn on policy and hammer the gop in the midterms.

[KPN]

25. It's going to take a lot more than that. The damage will already be done.

Just on the climate change issue alone. Supreme Court? You think the GOP won't nuke the filibuster rule if they think they can ensure the court is stacked with 5, possibly 6 activist conservatives in the next couple or more years.

[Ilsa]

40. Well, I was trying to be optimistic.

But in truth, I have little hope for the US any more.

The only thing I'm looking forward to is rubbing it in people's faces when their shit hits the fans and they have to eat it.

[KPN]

55. I understand and can relate. Didn't mean it as criticism.

I've been waffling between trying to look at reasons to be optimistic and outright despair for the past 5 weeks. It seems I'm in my best place mentally when I ignore the news; avoid DU and other political websites and reading material; and keep busy and occupied with personal projects, socializing and recreating. And frankly, I don't like that one bit. If it weren't for our three young adult kids ... my wife and I would be thinking about Ecuador. It can't be any worse than the US, its cheaper and the weather's good year-round. Kinda sad.

[Ilsa]

57. No sweat, I didn't take it as criticism, my apologies

If my comments seemed defensive. I had to not watch any evening news, cnn, msnbc, nothing for the first month. It was too infuriating and depressing. Like you, I had to refocus to keep my head on right. Sadly, this election has had a profound effect on my feelings of hopelessness, though.

I daydream about leaving. But we are over 55 and our kids are young. Both are still in high school. The older is disabled. I'm not sure how welcome we would be in most countries with these circumstances unless we were wealthy. We just don't have enough saved because of several economic downturns that robbed our retirement plans.

It breaks my heart to see this, and frankly, I'm glad both of my parents aren't alive to see it. My mother worked for the War Department and my father served in the South Pacific, seeing battle more than once. It pisses me off to no end that he fought and nearly died with the eventual result of people like trump establishing fascism and an oligarchy.

[leftyladyfrommo]

26. Sometimes it takes a while

For these things to get legs. It took a while for Watergate to really get rolling.

Be more patient. It's not over. More and more stuff is piling up on Trump. Not just this.

[pbmus]

27. Democrats bring knives to a gunfight

The physical fight between dirty energy and climate is the titanic struggle of this century...with the winner being either quality of life or hell on earth.

The spiritual fight between greed and compassion is the megalithic challenge that is really at the heart of the universe and the point of the fight.

i wish I could write to tell you that this will all end well...??
We just elected one of the "----------s"

[NRaleighLiberal]

29. Butter knives to a nuke battle, really

[NRaleighLiberal]

28. Is anyone representing us?

We've been hung out to dry...

[oldtime dfl_er]

31. It's up to us now

nobody is going to save us. Time to take to the streets. And change the narrative. And work locally. And start over. God, Im tired of starting over.

[awoke_in_2003]

36. "Is anyone representing us?"

Maybe a handful, but for the most part, no

[heaven05]

33. nothing will change what is

NOW. If the republikkkans take all I expect they will, as they will of millions of others then there will be 'troubles'. Otherwise Obama has finished and there is nothing he can do to change what ignorant, racist idiots have voted for. Making ameriKKKa great and white again. Barack Obama you kept us on even keel in spite of the obstructionist white supremacists that nipped at your heels for 8 fucking years. He and his family will always be an example of class and elegance not seen in a generation or two and now we prepare for the KKKlampetts. JEEEZZZUS!!!!!

[Buzz Clik]

34. Anyone who does not agree to stop the election results in some way must be a traitor. Or weak.

Or an enemy of the state.

[berksdem]

35. Sadly, does anyone think for...

one minute this will change anything? I don't...

[dubyadiprecession]

37. It's good to see the FBI can get out of its own way again...

Too bad it won't last.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

38. Obama is not "fine". process is everything

Stop smearing constitutional scholar.

[watoos]

41. I'm from Alabama

halfway between Pittsburgh and Philly.

I blog on my local red neck site, let me tell you something, none of them believe that Russia hacked us let alone influenced the election.

They post that until they see more proof they will not believe it. I guess they want the name of the spy put out there? Obama needs to release more info, needs to declassify more. There are like 4 progressives on my site and I could use a little help from president Obama.

[Fast Walker 52]

42. CIA can't give out details because it would compromise their intel methods and whatever spies

they have in Russia. But fuck, obviously the DNC was hacked and it benefited Trump, and Trump loves Putin and Putin is happy about Trump elected, Trump campaign has ties to Russia, Tillerson appointment, etc. It doesn't take a genius to see the pattern here.

[0rganism]

44. at this point they should assume their methods and operatives have been compromised

or will be come February

[Fast Walker 52]

45. or maybe not-- I suspect the CIA will keep that info from the Trump people

[0rganism]

47. if they have a way, i hope they can pull it off

and if Twitler inserts another incompetent fascist as CIA chief, they may have an easier time doing so
by gum, it just might work!

[0rganism]

43. and the Democratic president shows he will not fight for us

if the roles were reversed and this was the Obama win in 2008, do you have any doubt whatsoever that W would have ginned up a goddam redneck riot over Russia's interference in our elections?

elected Republicans have minimal ethics and a paper-thin pretense to morality, putting profit above all else, but they fucking fight for their dystopian ideals, every one of them

their goal is to show government can't help the people by destroying it from within. now they can burn as much of it down as Putin wants them to burn down. i guess we'll see how far he wants to go with it, i expect him to take revenge sevenfold for the dissolution of the USSR: we fucked up his homeland and now he's going to beat the holy shit out of ours.

[Fast Walker 52]

46. All I know is this sort of BULLSHIT always comes FROM Republicans and NEVER happens TO them

so it's hard to imagine how they would respond in that reverse circumstance.

[0rganism]

50. yep, story of the last 20 years right there

i second your motion for

[Fast Walker 52]

51. 20 years, probably more

[0rganism]

52. probably, definitely at least 20 though

perhaps we go back to the time-honored traditional way of dealing with crappy government:

[Pisces]

56. The Republican Bible is " Machiavelli". Some of us on the Democratic side refuse to win at any cost

I'm sure Pres. Obama could do a number of things to humiliate Trump. The question is doeshe love
America more or will scoring points against an opponent win the day. I know the answer for Trump, but for Obama, he will not undermine our institutions and long held traditions just to satisfy our anger.

[lunasun]

53. The slant I have heard is let's as a country learn from this episode. Not address for this election

Just learn from it so it doesn't happen again .
But not do anything about it already happening !!
This was national security experts being interviewed
Is anyone going to right this or it just is wrong but too late?

[Baitball Blogger]

54. Hmm. I wonder what is going on here, behind the scenes.

Sounds like someone came to the table with a Trump card, and we lost - again.