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yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
1. Yeah, yeah, Yeah....blah blah blah
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:33 PM
Dec 2016

if your group is so powerful, strike back otherwise, put up or shut up.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
5. I'm not that wild about the idea that Anonymous should be striking us.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:50 PM
Dec 2016

If they expose Trump's corruption, I'm cool with that. Fucking with American security is a bad thing we should oppose. It encourages wars.

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
6. So lets say they expose Trump's Corruption
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:55 PM
Dec 2016

who is going to make him answer for it? The Republicans run the show, they will just say, "he's being creative" and turn their backs. With Republicans owning the House, Senate, and Supreme court, can we expect them to do their job?

That answer would be laughable, if not so damn serious. As for Anonymous, how come they didn't see this coming? How come they did nothing about it when it happened? What do we expect them to do now? Nothing... absolutely nothing.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
9. That's definitely where the demo in democracy comes in. We have to show up & demonstrate
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:20 PM
Dec 2016

We have to fight to be heard in the press. We have to sway public opinion. They still fear votes. At the end of the day, that's the only real power.

Don't despair. Fight. It's not over until WE decide it is!!



(and don't forget... we still own the goalpost)

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
13. We have not seen this before...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 06:37 PM
Dec 2016

We don't know what will happen. You say the power is with the people? How has that power helped get justice for Blacks being gun downed in the Streets by Police? How has that power helped people who became homeless and was told to move on, from their encampments in the parks? How did that power help Japanese Americans when they were rounded up for internment camps? How has that power done anything for those who will just be trying to survive a long winter without much money for heat? How many more will have to die, because the people in charge at the top don't give a rats ass except for their own pockets?

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
15. I know its bleak. But there are millions of us going against that grain
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 09:14 PM
Dec 2016

We're not alone. We need to stand up, stand strong, stand together, and get ready to fight for what's right.

I've already started deep in the heart of Texas h ere.

We'll win. History is with us. we just have too do what's right.

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
16. I think the people in Germany must have thought the same
Sat Dec 17, 2016, 12:00 PM
Dec 2016

when Hitler came to power, and the people of Japan finding themselves in War with everyone during World War II. Their leaders decided to drop bombs at Pearl Harbor... and many Japanese families were probably horrified that their leaders chose to go to war against America...How helpless a person can feel when their Leaders decide to go to war... I hope that will not be us!

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
2. so do something about it
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:34 PM
Dec 2016

OR why didn't you do something about it??? You guys look like the Wizard of Oz.

drh

(22 posts)
4. Disseminate widely please
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:43 PM
Dec 2016

Thank you for posting. This is what democracy comes down to. Hope the EC is watching.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
12. I've said for years that Assange and Snowden were Russian operatives.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 06:30 PM
Dec 2016

And "Anonymous" is--at the end of the day--a rogue and disavowed arm of US/allied intelligence services. They often suck in 'real' troublemakers, and take them down and out. But their utility in doing things we like, like, say, hacking Syrian government webpages/files, I believe is controlled closer to home.

It'll be interesting to see what becomes of them in the out-years.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
14. Guy Fawkes and a backdrop from The Matrix -- Our only saviors are those with the maturity
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

level of a typical Comic-Con attendee.

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