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HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 02:22 AM Dec 2016

Conspiracy theory news from ham radio land.

I am reading my ham radio magazine, and I run across a story about HAARP, the high frequency active auroral research project near Gakona, Alaska. There are many people who believe HAARP is a government weather modification weapon, intended to cause tornadoes and violent weather events.

But a couple of Georgia men, evidently intent on doing the Lord's work, planned to blow up the facility because it was used to capture souls, and those souls needed to be released. I wish I had more details, but I think the story captures the feeling of our times, and it gives us a glimpse of the sort of thinking of that contributes to the success of someone like Donald Trump.

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Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
2. My father and Grandfather were Ham Radio operators - I often have wondered if any DU members had
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 02:46 AM
Dec 2016

...a Ham radio license and hobbyists who monitored what was going on and being said. It would be interesting to know...and I wouldn't be surprised if there is an increase in it's use...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. This is what happens when people do not read or
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 03:40 AM
Dec 2016

are lazy and non-inquisitive. Believe it is a low frequency level Submarine Communication system. US Navy was doing testing of this in North Western Wisconsin in the late fifties and early sixties.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
15. VLF very low frequency
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 01:35 PM
Dec 2016

The navy had two such facilities, one in Wisconsin and another in Michigan. I saw the one in Wisconsin. The antenna was a heavy cable, several miles long, strung a few feet above the ground. The VLF radio waves do not travel through the atmosphere, but through the earth's crust. I believe both facilities are shut down now.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
5. I'm thinking that HAARP was blamed for the Boxing Day earthquake
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 04:28 AM
Dec 2016

in Sumatra and the subsequent tsunami.

People who believe such nonsense simply haven't a clue the magnitude of energy involved in such things.

Unfortunately, scientific ignorance is very widespread.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
6. HAARP was blamed
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 05:01 AM
Dec 2016

for the Boxing Day quake and also for the 2011 Tohoku Earthquake and tsunami.

There's a lot of ignorant people out there, sad to say.

spin

(17,493 posts)
7. I have to admit there are times when I wonder if some of the strange weather ...
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 05:03 AM
Dec 2016

we have experienced across the globe might have been caused by secret government weather warfare programs.

I'm sure there has at least been some research into the potential use of modifying weather patterns to damage enemy nations. Our nation has used cloud seeding in the past in warfare,

Weather warfare

Weather warfare is the use of weather modification techniques such as cloud seeding for military purposes.

Prior to the Geneva Convention, the United States used weather warfare in the Vietnam War. Under the auspices of the Air Weather Service, the United States' Operation Popeye used cloud seeding over the Ho Chi Minh trail, increasing rainfall by an estimated thirty percent during 1967 and 1968. It was hoped that the increased rainfall would reduce the rate of infiltration down the trail.[1]

With much less success, the United States also dropped salt on the airbase during the siege of Khe Sanh in an attempt to reduce the fog that hindered air operations.[citation needed]

A research paper produced for the United States Air Force written in 1996 speculates about the future use of nanotechnology to produce "artificial weather", clouds of microscopic computer particles all communicating with each other to form an intelligent fog that could be used for various purposes. "Artificial weather technologies do not currently exist. But as they are developed, the importance of their potential applications rises rapidly." Weather modification technologies are described in an unclassified academic paper written by airforce officer-cadet students as "a force multiplier with tremendous power that could be exploited across the full spectrum of war-fighting environments." [2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_warfare

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Thanks for the report from ham land.
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 06:43 AM
Dec 2016

HAARP sounded familiar. Bet our neighbor could tell us all about it... He's the type who opens the ads on the sides of far-right websites, "what they don't want you to know," and then opens their links, which lead to more. The secrets he uncovers that way...

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. There was a DU member who was banned for insisting that HAARP caused Hurricane Katrina, IIRC.
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 07:03 AM
Dec 2016

Appatently admin thought that argument- like chemtrails and moon landing denial- fell under "crazy talk", the big meanies.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. On average people are 6 degrees of separation from someone involved in Black Ops
Sun Dec 18, 2016, 09:19 AM
Dec 2016

Theory is that any two people are only 6 degrees of separation apart https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon

Lots of people are even closer to someone involved in bad secret stuff the government is doing. So a fair amount of stuff leaks out via rumor and gossip, some true and some distorted by having been passed from person to person over a few beers.

This lends credence to other totally fictional or vastly distorted conspiracy theories about what the government might be doing.

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