"Sit down, Donald...there is something we need to tell you..."

[kentuck]

You did not win in a landslide. You won the electoral vote by one of the lowest margins in our history. Also, you lost the popular vote by the largest margin of anyone...ever. So you need to stop acting like you had some great victory. You didn't.

Thanks in large part part to your disgusting words and actions during the campaign, the country is more divided than it has been in a very long time.
You need to stop pounding your chest and acting as if everybody in America loves you. They don't. They find you disgusting and unfit to hold any public office, let alone the Presidency.

Your job is not to brag and further divide our country. You need to realize that you won nothing. You willl be appointed on a technicality. If you do not have it within you to even try to unite our country, then you are not ready or qualified to hold the office you so desire. You're fired!

[world wide wally]

1. And no matter what you ever do...

More than Half of this country will think it's because Putin told you to do it

[coco22]

2. Kick&Recommended..

[niyad]

47. welcome to du

[deist99]

3. Problem

The problem when you use this argument, that has been used against me, is that if you take California out of it he does have the popular vote by 1.8 million. So why should we care about one very liberal state and what they want. Again not my argument.

[yeoman6987]

5. That has been thrown at many

So does California not count? That is my comeback and shuts them up.

[calimary]

23. That's my comeback as well.

People like to forget, or ignore, that California's population being the largest in the nation means more people are DIRECTLY AFFECTED by whatever it is that's decided in Washington. So it's more than fair - and accurate to ask - "so we don't count?"

And they sure like our tax money - more of which leaves California and goes out to the red states.

[deek]

36. don't forget

"And they sure like our tax money - more of which leaves California and goes out to the red states. "

...and the food we produce for the nation as well!

[RegexReader]

38. which is why #CaliEXIT makes

too much sense. Stop supporting red state leeches!!

[Pluvious]

46. A Californian's vote is only worth 1/3rd that of a Wyoming voter

We have a broken system.

[calimary]

50. That just burns my burgers, gotta say!

What are we, out here, anyway? Chopped liver?

We have the largest population of the 50 states.
We have the largest population of America's fastest-growing demographic: Latinos.
We have the largest Congressional delegation.
We have the largest delegation of Electors.
We have a state economy that ranks in the top ten NATIONS of the WORLD.
And more of our taxes go to everybody else but us. We consistently pay out LOTS more than we get to keep or take in and we're the ones likely doing more to keep the red states afloat.

Why do WE not rank? All these different groups of voters who yowl and whine and complain about how they've been forgotten and ignored and overlooked? Excuse me, but WHAT THE HELL???? THOSE FOLKS are all anybody talked about regarding voting groups, all year long! What about California? What about Californians? Nothing. Crickets chirping. We're almost literally fucking LAST on the primary list. The candidates never even bother with us out here except when they come out to fund-raise. But man they're on their knees to Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, Iowa, New Hampshire, and the like, all through election season. With apologies to DUers from those states, I still stand firm in this opinion.

As a Californian, I resent it. Deeply. I resent that, AS a Californian, MY voice is repeatedly silenced, forgotten, ignored, and overlooked while my state is consistently and repeatedly sent to the end of the line. And again, WE'RE the biggest, with the most at risk, the most to lose, and the most people who stand to be affected by whatever is decided in faraway Washington DC. Where most of what they do, regarding California, is smirk and laugh and scoff at us. Why can't we lead? Why can't the rest of the nation follow US? Considering the direction of almost every trend from fashion to Prop 13 to pop culture to evolving social issues to multiculturalism to Reagan-everything, the rest of the nation eventually seems to, whether it thinks it wants to or not.

I'm sick of it. Those murmurs about a thing called "Calexit" are starting to speak more loudly to me by the day. Sorry to rant. But this is just galling as all hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California

[eShirl]

6. hypothetically take away a big conservative state, and voila

[awoke_in_2003]

30. He had a 700k lead in Texas. nt

[kentuck]

8. That is similar to saying we should just ignore the Southern states.

Because it is a given that the Republicans are going to win there. What is the difference?

Also, I saw a stat which showed Hillary's popular vote difference equaled Trump's votes in 12 other states.

[onethatcares]

10. If we take California out of it

why not take Florida out of it as well?

Why not take my very liberal vote out of the election as well?

We should care about California because "E Pluribus Unum".

What is your argument? Seriously, I'm trying to understand your post.

[spooky3]

14. Take out Texas, then. See how ridiculous that argument is?

One person, one vote.

In edit--I meant to reply to the person who suggested California should be omitted (but of course, that was not HIS/HER opinion...)

[kentuck]

17. Perfect example of the alternate reality.

There's a spoon missing from the drawer...

[onethatcares]

18. agreed

with a paper trail to each ballot cast.

I can't go to the atm without getting a receipt, the gas station the same.

Voting is much more important and we don't get a little piece of paper that tells us who we voted for.

[spooky3]

19. Yes, and the irony is that the manufacturer of the

Paperless voting machines also makes ATMs, IIRC.

[onethatcares]

20. and probably swears

it would be way too hard to do that.

[tclambert]

41. We should have let Texas secede when they started blathering about it in 2009.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

32. Let's take tRump's appeal to racist white America out of it... wait, can't do that, it's ingrained in the Fuhrer-Elect's rhetoric.

[gordianot]

16. One man one vote guess some count less.

Forced inclusion into the Union worked out well for the old Confederacy.

[grantcart]

24. California has a greater population than the

20 smallest states. Take those states out and what does the electoral votes look like?

[lambchopp59]

27. fact remains 2.8 million patriotic American voices were silenced.

In the name of what? Election cheating so egregious that no one, even the most deplorable amongst the opposition should trust any of these criminals? Ignorance perpetuation to the point of creating an alternate reality even when the very real consequences are so potentially dire?

[salin]

43. For that to have any merit, one would also have to extricate

California's input to the national economy and to numerous industries. More federal tax dollars flow out of California tax payers and back to other states than flows back to California. Just being 'liberal' doesn't mean it doesn't count.

https://www.google.com/search?q=california+economy+share+of+us+economy&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

[IronLionZion]

45. Californians are extremely underrepresented in the electoral college and congress

people from small rural states are overrepresented because they get to have the minimum number of senators and congressman.

The 582,000 people in Wyoming and the 38,300,000 people in California still get 2 US Senators.

California is also has larger impact from infrastructure spending and other policies: farming, energy, trade, technology, military facilities, etc. due to the size and diversity of their economy. Smaller states are also impacted but their economies are less diversified and they have fewer people to place in employment positions and use of their services.

California is also the most urban state, with the most people in the most urban areas. Urban people are more impacted by many large infrastructure projects whether it is water, power, roads, pipelines, climate change mitigation, etc.

[milestogo]

4. The real problem is that narcissists don't listen

to anyone but themselves.

[0rganism]

7. the main problem with this notion is HE DOES NOT CARE

he won and that's all that matters to him

whatever victory he wins is likely already maximized in his mind

from what i've seen so far, tweets notwithstanding, he gives zero shits what anyone thinks about his job or how he does it

fully expect him to do what he knows how to do and what's gotten him this far: brag and divide us against one-another to strengthen his position, whatever it is on any given day

it will be up to American voters to fire him in 2020, should we still have a democracy with him as its president by then. i am not optimistic.

[secondwind]

9. Winning is everything for this man... and he lied his azz off to fool the masses... he did

everything in his power TO WIN.

He has an agenda.. and Russia is complicit.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

11. The Democrats need to be pounding this home every single day

from now on. Unfortunately, they probably won't. They'll probably confirm every single one of his despicable cabinet and other selections. They'll say, "Oh, what can we do?" forgetting how effectively the Repubs blocked them even when the Democrats were in the majority.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. He thinks winning is a genetic trait....

So did Hitler, Mussolini and Franco.

[C Moon]

13. Very nice!

However, I believe they know how to get the country behind the freak (that's why Cheney is back in the picture): create or allow an event to occur.

[kentuck]

15. Could be.

Can't waste a good crisis.

[ffr]

21. "...lost the popular vote by the largest margin of anyone...ever."

If it were me, those words should be in bold, capital, red, flashing, neon.

[lambchopp59]

29. Problem being: FOX noise would have to report it to get this across to the alternate reality

goofballs that put this clown in office. And not bury this message in a huge block of RW bias confirming misinformation.
But the broadcast network that has been banned in Canada for misleading information cannot be trusted to do anything but obfuscate, confabulate.

[erpowers]

22. Fake It Until You Make It

Donald Trump knows exactly what he is doing. He realizes that in some instances if you keep saying it some people will begin to believe it. Already his supporters believe he won the popular vote. How many people never thought to question, or verify whether or not Trump's electoral college win was one of the largest in history? How many people, who do not pay attention to politics, believed Trump hook, line, and sinker when he made his electoral college comment? Trump keeps repeating these lies because he knows the benefits of telling lies.

[turbinetree]

25. He is a serial predator----------------------

and


HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT

[Jacob Boehme]

26. Dialogue with Donald Trump.

US Citizens: "All right, If you are the real president, where is your badge? Let's see it."

Trump: "Badges, to God-damned hell with a badge! I have no badge. In fact, I don't need a badge.
I don't have to show you any stinking badge, you God-damned cabrón and chinga tu madre!"

(With apologies to B. Traven)

[spanone]

28. Amen.

[LittleGirl]

31. And why is it

that the Presidential race is decided differently than all of the other races in the country?
Local, State, Senate, Congress - all decided by popular votes but not true of Presidential ones.

This is the 21st century, time to make everything equal don't you think?

[malaise]

34. He can't help himself

He's a raving lunatic

[Merlot]

35. We need to tell his supporters this.

You can't tell trumpt anything anyhow. But his supporters should face the truth.

[Initech]

37. Did you see Donald's latest Tweet? He clearly doesn't give a fuck.

If my many supporters acted and threatened people like those who lost the election are doing, they would be scorned & called terrible names!

And I counter with this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8371287



Also never mind that some fucking assholes replied to that trying to hawk a mug that said "Liberal Tears" on it. I reported that for hate speech.

[rwsanders]

39. Great post, but it needs to be twitterized so he'll notice it.

[Miles Archer]

40. The end of the White House Press Corps + ongoing "rallies"...

...means the opposite of everything you just posted. Get ready for a four year living in denial victory lap.

All he really wants to do is a free-form Lenny Bruce kind of stream of consciousness rap before an adoring crowd.

Pence and Paul Ryan will do the actual work...

...and that "work" is going to ruin the lives of more Americans than I care to think about.

[Silver Gaia]

42. You're fired. ... I wish!

[ginnyinWI]

44. He's not listening.

And I would add: you are going to be President, which means you will be analyzed, criticized, picked on and lampooned for the next four years. SNL has every right to do it, as does everyone else. So put on your big boy pants and suck it up and stop being a whiney crybaby.

[2naSalit]

48. So he's the biggest LOOOZER afterall!

[Raster]

49. Further FYI tRump: Hillary Clinton won more votes...

...than any other Presidential candidate IN HISTORY!

:middlefinger: