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CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:10 PM Dec 2016

Part 3: Obamacare - Trouble on the Horizon for the Trump Administration

I wish I had a dollar for every time Trump said on the campaign trail that he was going to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something “much better”. Of course he never really got around to outlining a workable plan for replacing the Affordable Care Act as it is officially known. Republicans in the House of Representatives have voted to repeal Obamacare 60 times, but not once have they brought a bill before the House to replace it. There’s a reason for that – replacing Obamacare while sticking to the Republican core principle of breaking down the social safety net is virtually impossible.

The Affordable Care Act is primarily a vehicle for insuring the working poor while encouraging those who can afford health insurance coverage, but previously choose not buy it, to become insured. According to government statistics 85% of those participating in the ACA exchanges are receiving government assistance in paying for their insurance premiums. And let’s not forget the additional millions of citizens who are now covered in the 30 states which have extended Medicaid to more of the working poor under the Affordable Care Act.

Now that the Republicans control both houses of Congress and the White House, they finally have to get serious about the “replace” half of their “repeal and replace” promise. Again that isn’t easy considering that words “government aid” and “subsidies” are not part or their political vocabulary. However, according to an article in The Atlantic – "Republicans Offer a Plan to Replace Obamacare" - http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/house-gop-obamacare/488168/ – House Republicans have come up with a replacement plan – well not really a plan really, but more of a framework because it offers no details. Of course it includes keeping the aspects of Obamacare that everyone seems to like, such as coverage of pre-existing conditions and allowing adult children to remain on their parent’s insurance plan until they are 26. Other parts of their plan are right out of the Republican playbook.

It includes expanding health savings accounts, offering tax credits for the purchase of private health insurance, reducing the tax exclusions for employer paid insurance, allowing the purchase of insurance across state lines, and setting up funding for high risk pools over a ten year period. In addition they propose pushing Medicaid off on the states using block grants and partially privatizing Medicare. Surprise – they want to get the Federal Government out of the health insurance business and reduce the incentive for companies to supply health insurance to their employees.

Of course, the Republican plan is all generalities and no specifics. According to the Atlantic article, “The plan is more like an Impressionist painting: The closer you look, the fuzzier it appears. There’s no estimate for how much it would cost, how generous the tax credits would be, how many people it would cover, or how many people would be forced off of Medicaid or their Obamacare exchange policies.”

One thing that is clear to me is that the Republican plan offers little to no help for the working poor. Both health savings accounts (which make personal payments for medical expenses tax deductible) and tax credits for paying for private insurance would help those who earn enough to pay taxes, but not the working poor. According to the Tax Policy Center Briefing Book, “only 11.3 percent of households in the bottom income quintile (bottom 20% of all taxpayers) paid federal income tax in 2015”. If you don’t pay taxes a tax credit is useless to you. So unless the Republicans are feeling especially generous and allow people to receive these tax credits as federal government payments if they owe no taxes (yea, that’s going to happen), these measures will not help the working poor.

In theory allowing insurance companies to sell health insurance across state lines is supposed to reduce the cost of premiums by creating more competition, but in the real world it doesn’t work very well because it is difficult for insurance companies to get set up to sell policies in a new state. (Think of the work that goes into setting up new networks for instance.) Six states have passed laws to allow insurance companies licensed in other states to sell policies to their citizens, but not one company as taken them up on their offer. In addition, if the proposition ever caught on, states would lose their ability to regulate bad insurance practices because insurance companies would have incentives to set up in states with the fewest regulations. Again, if you are poor and can’t afford health insurance, this proposal won’t help you.

As for setting up high risk pools, that doesn’t help the working poor with normal health expenses that they incur every day. And as stated before, the remaining proposals are aimed at getting the federal government and companies out of the health insurance business which certainly appears to be a net negative for everyone.

In addition, notice that the Republican plan contains no incentive, such as tax penalties, to encourage everyone to buy health insurance. This is understandable because it is one of the provisions of Obamacare which the Republicans have been carping about. This will mean that the younger people who think they are immortal (until that perception lands them in a major accident) will have a tendency go without. Not only will the insurance pool be deprived of some of the healthiest individuals, when their reckless lands them in the hospital, it you and I who will ultimately pay their medical bills one way or the other.

Since the Republicans obviously can’t bring themselves to address the needs of the working poor for health insurance, they face grave political risks if they try to dismantle Obamacare. This has always been the case once a key element of the social safety net is well established. (Try telling an old Tea Party guy wearing a tri-cornered hat and the “Don’t Tread on Me” sign that you intend to take away his social security checks.)

Many millions now depend on their Obamacare policies to cover them when unexpected illnesses and accidents strike and protect them against financial ruin. In addition, US health care cost increases, which have began to slow as expected due to Obamacare, will begin again begin to dramatically increase. According to Gary Claxton, Vice President of the Kaiser Family Foundation of a study his organization recently completed: “Each year we see spending going up 3 percent, 2 percent, whatever, and not 5 percent, and because that stuff compounds, when it continues to go up more slowly … it starts to really add up.” The reason is simple, when the uninsured use doctor and hospital services and they can’t pay, the rates of those who have insurance and can pay will go up. If millions lose their health insurance, health care costs in this country will again start to rise dramatically and health insurance costs for the rest of us will increase dramatically to compensate.

Even as Trump and the Congressional Republicans vow to abolish Obamacare, many more people are signing up. 3.5 million previously uninsured are expected to enroll through the exchanges for the first time for 2017 coverage while approximately 1.1 million more are expected to switch their coverage from private insurance to Obamacare plans. That’s in addition to the 9.2 million who are expected to re-enroll. In addition we can’t disregard the millions that are now covered by the expansion of the Medicaid and CHIP (Children’s Health Insurance Program) which the Affordable Care Act made possible. Those programs now cover an additional 15 million people.

Now try to imagine what would happen if a large percentage of those millions of people covered by one aspect of Obamacare or another lose their insurance coverage. People whose diseases might have been cured or controlled in the early stages will grow grievously ill, and even die. The families of those of reasonable means will be devastated by the medical costs of unexpected accidents or illnesses. Soon after the repeal of Obamacare goes into affect to be replaced by an inadequate Republican plan, the news media and the internet will be filled with horror stories and Trump and the Republicans will be blamed. Day after day, Trump and Congressional Republicans would take a beating until they will wish they had never said a word about repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act.

Fortunately for Trump and his partners in crime, Senate Democrats will save them (and the rest of the country) from Republican stupidity and crassness. Remember, due to Senate closure rules, it requires 60 Senators to bring a bill up for a vote in the Senate, and currently the Republicans have only 52 Senate members. True to their nature, the Republicans in the House will yet again try to repeal Obamacare and even replace it with some half baked plan of their own, but the Senate is where such legislation will go to die. Trump can stomp his foot and wear off his finger prints Tweeting his rage, but nothing is likely to change that situation.

The repeal and replacement of Obamacare will be just one more of his campaign promises that Trump will not be able to keep. His most faithful followers will forgive him if all of those many promises are not kept, but as his big losses continue to mount, even their patience will have its limits.

According to Gallop polls, Trump already has the lowest favorability ratings of any President-elect in recent memory – 42% favorable, 55% unfavorable (-13%). Even those ratings have increased substantially from the exceedingly low ratings he had on election day as Republicans have reluctantly come on board. However, Trump’s current numbers are dismal compare to the most recent Presidents before taking residence in the White House: Bill Clinton – 1992 – 58% favorable, 35% unfavorable (+23%), George W. Bush – 2000 – 59% favorable, 35% unfavorable (+23) and Barack Obama – 2008 – 68% favorable, 27% unfavorable (+41%). Imagine how low Trump’s favorability ratings could go if even his most ardent followers start to lose faith in him. Trump’s inability to repeal Obamacare as repeatedly promised will be yet another big nail in his coffin.

Article originally published on my blog - CajunsComments.com - as part of a series:

Trouble on the Horizon for the Trump Administration – Part 3: Obamacare

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Part 3: Obamacare - Trouble on the Horizon for the Trump Administration (Original Post) CajunBlazer Dec 2016 OP
Bottom line is, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #1
Excellent point, I wish I had included it. CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #2
Only fimiliar with three States. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #3
Sad the ignorance of people... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #4
Shake your head in amazement. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #5
Sounds like Republicans to me CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #6
Hard Core Joe Six-Pack type. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #8
Interesting.... CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #15
That should be the normal progression in life. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #16
Sounds like the South is progressing while Wisconsin is regressing CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #17
There will be lost generations before Wisconsin rights their Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #18
Twitler will say the UE rate in the red states is -15% and his non discerning followers aka the M$M uponit7771 Dec 2016 #11
Yep, I hear you, but his non discriminating folowers are a small minority of Americans CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #13
Went and read the other two also treestar Dec 2016 #7
Thanks much! CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #9
Good piece but I disagree about the filibuster Jim Lane Dec 2016 #10
Thanks for the education - I appreciate the explanation. CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #12
Kick for visibility CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #14
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Bottom line is,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:19 PM
Dec 2016

in every State that was carried by Trump and for that part the Rethugs,their new jobs created were in Health Care and related Companies. You dump ACA,there goes millions of jobs,I guess it has not sunk in for these dolts,you can not fix the STUPIID.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
2. Excellent point, I wish I had included it.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:46 PM
Dec 2016

A good example is the state of Alabama where the Republican governor refused to expand medicare even when the a study by the most prestigious hare care university in the state - UAB (U of A at Birmingham) showed that not doing so would cost the state one billion dollars financial growth and jobs. The excuse was that the state would have to pay up to 10% of the bill after three years.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Only fimiliar with three States.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:03 PM
Dec 2016

My home state Wisconsin is in a mess. Tons of relatives still scratching out subsistence life style and not understanding why they are stuck in a rut.. And most of them are using the ACA or Medicare/Medicade. Yup,got to get rid of that George Soros Socialist Insurance thingee. Can't have all of them people on that thing. Get a job cause I'am tired of footing the bill for those people.

All of the new jobs created in their back yards are directly tied to Health Care and if my memory is still working,more than half of these Relatives,who voted BTW one hundred percent for Trump,have jobs at their local Hospital,Clinic,or Senior Center and Nursing Home. With the cutoff of State Funds by Walker,they are totally depended on Insurance and Federal Stipends.

Ignorance is so Blissful.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
4. Sad the ignorance of people...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:14 PM
Dec 2016

... who aren't bright enough to vote in their selfish best interests.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Shake your head in amazement.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:36 PM
Dec 2016

I call them,Northern Red Necks, above average intelligence below average carrying for their neighbors..

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Hard Core Joe Six-Pack type.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:01 PM
Dec 2016

Irony,their Parents as well as mine were FDR Democrats or LaFolliet Progressives. Funny how they forgot their roots. Then knowing them,they just do not get it.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
15. Interesting....
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 11:37 AM
Dec 2016

What I am seeing here in the South is somewhat of the opposite. Of course, many young Southerners, especially in rural areas, have adopted the hard line conservatism of their parents. However, many of the younger generations, who are better educated and who live and work in the metro areas of the South have adopted more progressive, more accepting view of our multicultural society. This has progressed (pun not intended) generation after generation and iI have noted it to especially prevalent in college students.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. That should be the normal progression in life.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:20 PM
Dec 2016

This group missed the Norms. What is disturbing,is the adoption of Southern Racist Crap. Complete with the Confederate Flag along side of their Packers Flag. Understand now how Walker was elected. And to think,this region was the leader in Progressive Political Ideals. Jim Obey,Warren Knowles,and other Progressive Democrats who ran bare bone Campaigns and were elected and reelected in Landslide fashion.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
17. Sounds like the South is progressing while Wisconsin is regressing
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:41 PM
Dec 2016

Walker is evidence enough. However, whole generations will have to die off in Alabama before a progressive will be able to win here. And then we will still have our rural areas where education past high school isn't big so the old ways will die very slowly.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
18. There will be lost generations before Wisconsin rights their
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:18 AM
Dec 2016

ship of State. Just the Brain Drain alone is preventing a turn around.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
11. Twitler will say the UE rate in the red states is -15% and his non discerning followers aka the M$M
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:47 PM
Dec 2016

... will all believe him

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
13. Yep, I hear you, but his non discriminating folowers are a small minority of Americans
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:26 PM
Dec 2016

Many voted for him despite the fact that they knew he was lying. If only his "non discriminating follows continue to support him, he will be in big trouble.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. Thanks much!
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 07:55 PM
Dec 2016

It's a labor of love, or hate, depending on how you look at it. Trying to instill hope in myself and others.

More installments to come. Trump, being Trump, his administration will have more than a few challenges. Come visit my blog from time to time if you find yourself with nothing better to do.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
10. Good piece but I disagree about the filibuster
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:07 PM
Dec 2016

You write:

Fortunately for Trump and his partners in crime, Senate Democrats will save them (and the rest of the country) from Republican stupidity and crassness. Remember, due to Senate closure rules, it requires 60 Senators to bring a bill up for a vote in the Senate, and currently the Republicans have only 52 Senate members. True to their nature, the Republicans in the House will yet again try to repeal Obamacare and even replace it with some half baked plan of their own, but the Senate is where such legislation will go to die. Trump can stomp his foot and wear off his finger prints Tweeting his rage, but nothing is likely to change that situation.


This assumes that the filibuster rule will remain in effect in its current form. The filibuster is not prescribed in the Constitution. The Senate can change it, and has done so in the past. Cloture (cutting off debate) used to require a two-thirds vote. That was reduced to 60 votes. More recently, the filibuster was completely abolished for executive branch appointments and for judicial appointments other than the Supreme Court. The Republican Senators will be under pressure to finish the job and get rid of it entirely, if that’s what has to happen to repeal Obamacare (or to build a beautiful wall or to require all Muslims to register or any other right-wing dream).

Furthermore, even under current rules, bills subject to the reconciliation process can be moved through the Senate by simple majority vote. The Senate could approve a budget bill that appropriated zero dollars for the Medicaid expansion and for the subsidies for policies purchased on the exchanges. They could then say to the Democrats, “Here’s our replacement plan. We realize you don’t like it as much as Obamacare, but even your filibuster can’t stop us from eviscerating Obamacare. Therefore, you can go along with our replacement plan, or you can filibuster it and leave those people you care about with absolutely nothing.”

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
12. Thanks for the education - I appreciate the explanation.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:30 PM
Dec 2016

You're right, but while the Republicans do have the upper hand, I expect the Senate Democrats have some parliamentary tricks up their sleeves as well.

However, the Republicans' real problem is how do they replace Obamacare with something that will actually work without violating their core principles. Sure there are Republicans in solid read districts and states who would simply repeal the Affordable Care Act without replacing it and let the chips fall where they may. Their constitutes are too stupid to realize that such a move would would be extremely bad economically for their district or state. (Example: Here in Alabama the Republican governor refused to expand Medicaid even though reliable studies showed that the expansion would be worth $1 Billion dollars in economic benefits for the Alabama.)

However, some Republican Representatives and more than just a few Republican Senators don't have that luxury. They know that not only do they will they have have to replace Obamacare if they repeal it, but also that they will be held personally responsible by their voters for how well the replacement plan works.

As for the pressure they will feel to do something quickly, I think that they will address that by repealing Obamacare in the coming session, but in the process postpone the repeal in the legislation for two, three or even four years. That will get their most zealous constitutes off of their backs while they figure out how to replace the program. (That will give Us an opportunity to retake the Senate, not that our chances are good in 2020.)

If they decide that they won't ever be able to figure out a suitable replacement pan, the other alternative is to not take any special measures and allow the Senate Democratic to kill the repeal bill. Then they can say that they tried, but the evil Democrats stopped them.

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