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applegrove

(118,484 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:30 PM Dec 2016

How Republics End by Paul Krugman

How Republics End

Paul Krugman at the NY Times

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/how-republics-end.html?_r=0

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On the first point: Roman politics involved fierce competition among ambitious men. But for centuries that competition was constrained by some seemingly unbreakable rules. Here’s what Adrian Goldsworthy’s “In the Name of Rome” says: “However important it was for an individual to win fame and add to his and his family’s reputation, this should always be subordinated to the good of the Republic … no disappointed Roman politician sought the aid of a foreign power.”

America used to be like that, with prominent senators declaring that we must stop “partisan politics at the water’s edge.” But now we have a president-elect who openly asked Russia to help smear his opponent, and all indications are that the bulk of his party was and is just fine with that. (A new poll shows that Republican approval of Vladimir Putin has surged even though — or, more likely, precisely because — it has become clear that Russian intervention played an important role in the U.S. election.) Winning domestic political struggles is all that matters, the good of the republic be damned.

And what happens to the republic as a result? Famously, on paper the transformation of Rome from republic to empire never happened. Officially, imperial Rome was still ruled by a Senate that just happened to defer to the emperor, whose title originally just meant “commander,” on everything that mattered. We may not go down exactly the same route — although are we even sure of that? — but the process of destroying democratic substance while preserving forms is already underway.

Consider what just happened in North Carolina. The voters made a clear choice, electing a Democratic governor. The Republican legislature didn’t openly overturn the result — not this time, anyway — but it effectively stripped the governor’s office of power, ensuring that the will of the voters wouldn’t actually matter.


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How Republics End by Paul Krugman (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2016 OP
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Excellent piece from Paul Krugman, apple.. Cha Dec 2016 #2
I thought this article was spot on, very revealing nm AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #3

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Cha

(296,804 posts)
2. Excellent piece from Paul Krugman, apple..
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 07:33 AM
Dec 2016

thank you!

One thing all of this makes clear is that the sickness of American politics didn’t begin with Donald Trump, any more than the sickness of the Roman Republic began with Caesar. The erosion of democratic foundations has been underway for decades, and there’s no guarantee that we will ever be able to recover.

But if there is any hope of redemption, it will have to begin with a clear recognition of how bad things are. American democracy is very much on the edge

The US corporate media****** are a big part of this.. without them aiding and abetting the enemy we wouldn't be here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/19/opinion/how-republics-end.html?_r=0


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