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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:15 AM Dec 2016

Opinions Trump voters didnt take him literally on Obamacare. Oops?

What sort of 'messaging' on the part of ANY Democratic nominee would have overcome this sort of selective deaf/blindness? What health care reform plan could have convinced this kind of voter that they would do worse under Trump??

Donald Trump’s supporters, in conservative writer Salena Zito’s memorable formulation, take him seriously but not literally.

They will be forgiving if, say, he doesn’t literally get Mexico to pay for a border wall, or if he doesn’t literally ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

But in other areas, Trump’s supporters perhaps should have taken him literally — because they now may have a serious problem.

Vox senior editor Sarah Kliff wrote a poignant account last week of her visit to Whitley County, Ky., where the uninsured rate declined 60 percent under Obamacare but 82 percent of voters supported Trump. There, Kliff, a former Post colleague, found Trump voters who were downright frightened that the president-elect would do exactly — literally — what he and Republicans promised: repeal Obamacare.

Among those she found was Trump voter Debbie Mills, a store owner whose husband awaits a lifesaving liver transplant; they got insurance through Obamacare, and Mills is hoping the law won’t be repealed.

“I don’t know what we’ll do if it does go away,” Mills said. “I guess I thought that, you know, [Trump] would not do this. That they would not do this, would not take the insurance away. Knowing that it’s affecting so many people’s lives. I mean, what are you to do then if you cannot .?.?. purchase, cannot pay for the insurance?”

Mills, who supported Trump for other reasons, figured Obamacare repeal was just talk. “I guess we really didn’t think about that, that he was going to cancel that or change that or take it away,” she said. “I guess I always just thought that it would be there. I was thinking that once it was made into a law that it could not be changed.”



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Opinions Trump voters didnt take him literally on Obamacare. Oops? (Original Post) ehrnst Dec 2016 OP
Aw, come on Debbie. Everyone knows KYnect isn't Obamacare. ROFL. Vinca Dec 2016 #1
She voted, in effect, to murder her husband DFW Dec 2016 #9
Elections have consequences, Ms. Mills. tanyev Dec 2016 #2
i think most people always knew he exaggerates bigly. unblock Dec 2016 #3
I feel sorry for those who didn't vote for Agent Orange. roamer65 Dec 2016 #4
Wasn't their mantra mercuryblues Dec 2016 #5
No empathy. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Coventina Dec 2016 #6
sniff, sniff..........n/t HAB911 Dec 2016 #7
It's like having a new boyfriend/girlfriend Freddie Dec 2016 #8
What a bunch of fucking idiots Emilybemily Dec 2016 #10
Schadenfreude. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #11

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
1. Aw, come on Debbie. Everyone knows KYnect isn't Obamacare. ROFL.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:18 AM
Dec 2016

Were you trying to murder you husband??????

DFW

(54,358 posts)
9. She voted, in effect, to murder her husband
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:33 AM
Dec 2016

I don't know the husband voted, but if he voted for Trump, too, and dies from the effects of having done so, who will Debbie Mills blame? Trump and McConnell, like she should? No, she'll find a way to blame Obama, and keep voting Republican.

unblock

(52,197 posts)
3. i think most people always knew he exaggerates bigly.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:23 AM
Dec 2016

and that he was always just exaggerating to make the emotional appeal bigger, not meaning it literally.

so on immigration, he the reality will be he'll do something to restrict quotas from certain countries.

on the wall, he'll just add numbers to the border patrol.

on obamacare, who knows, but they can't piss off 11 million of their own constituents. it wouldn't surprise me if they repealed it and replaced it with a virtually identical plan and called it trumpcare and claimed victory and the media and the right-wing would be thrilled.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
5. Wasn't their mantra
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:37 AM
Dec 2016

"I like Trump because he says what he means?"

What part of the Republiklans trying to repeal it 40 times and trump promising to repeal it 1st thing in office, did they not understand?

I have a FB friend, that I will not delete. He cried that Obamacare costs him too much. I don't believe he is actually paying what he says he is. But when it is repealed and he has to buy on the open market, I plan on trolling him bigly. Another friend on SSDI who voted trumplethinskin, I am not even giving her the heads up about that being on the chopping block. I tried telling her during the elections that this is exactly what would happen, Oh, no republicans won't do that and went on about missing emails.


There is absolutely nothing you can say to them to get them to accept facts. Nothing. I will let them know that their vote is a direct result of their vote. They might want to listen to facts next time.



Freddie

(9,259 posts)
8. It's like having a new boyfriend/girlfriend
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:18 AM
Dec 2016

The person seems so perfect on paper that you project all these wonderful things about him/her.
Then you get to know the person better.

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