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****** BREAKING******- "KREMLIN SAYS ALL DIALOGUE WITH THE US IS FROZEN." (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP
Is there no agency of our government 2naSalit Dec 2016 #1
Drumpf and the Deplorables have emboldened and empowered them. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #2
Let it go....! MADem Dec 2016 #3
??? That song is about a person releasing their inner power/gifts. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #10
Probably in response to something Obama has put in the works... Dream Girl Dec 2016 #4
Obama sure has a way of... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #27
It's a stunt. Girard442 Dec 2016 #5
Exactly... it's all about showmanship with them. The "bright new tomorrow" will only look good unitedwethrive Dec 2016 #7
I am thinking the same thing liberal N proud Dec 2016 #26
Only Comrade Trump can save us. bluedigger Dec 2016 #31
yep; if anything, this confirms the ties between putin and trump. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #34
It's probably due to the latest sanctions. Adsos Letter Dec 2016 #6
Well it is winter so... hrmjustin Dec 2016 #8
This actually means that going forward they will only talk to Flynn and Tillerson. nt DURHAM D Dec 2016 #9
Yup, a DU'er called this very early on. Putin will do this and that to make Trump look good. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #11
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #16
How long does dialogue last in the freezer before their Lint Head Dec 2016 #12
Depends on moisture dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #21
only for a month lame54 Dec 2016 #13
The US put more sanctions on them yesterday, and extended some others. deminks Dec 2016 #14
Ding Ding Ding nt lamp_shade Dec 2016 #44
Not sure how this makes Trump look good...if they freeze not and defrost later Dream Girl Dec 2016 #15
NO. It only shows that Trump is a strong leader. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #35
But don't even the most uninformed have some inkling about at Putin connection? Dream Girl Dec 2016 #37
The "most uninformed" don't care. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #41
And when Trump takes office things will change 180 degrees lpbk2713 Dec 2016 #17
Yes they do Maven Dec 2016 #19
Please turn back in your textbooks to January 20, 1981. Dave Starsky Dec 2016 #30
bingo n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #39
Nice post, Elsa! KamaAina Dec 2016 #18
The Russian statement is that the channels are frozen. Doesn't say who froze them. FarCenter Dec 2016 #20
"nearly all" is not "all" and I question if it is really a huge change karynnj Dec 2016 #25
We are seeing how Putin plans to play his hand. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #29
Not to worry. January 20 Herr Trump will go on bended knee and beg Pooty for forgiveness. Vinca Dec 2016 #22
For about 30 days LittleBlue Dec 2016 #23
Meh HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #24
Already working on Trump's popularity and he's not even in office yet. Next stop, terrorist threats. C Moon Dec 2016 #28
putin got what he wanted, now he plays with us like a cat with a mouse. nt Javaman Dec 2016 #32
bet money this is just a "phony war" to cover the collusion between Putin and trump. nt TheFrenchRazor Dec 2016 #33
When did Russia join the Confederacy? ucrdem Dec 2016 #36
Perfect! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #38
It's kind of weird isn't it? ucrdem Dec 2016 #40
this article says it all. okieinpain Dec 2016 #42
Fuck Russia. roamer65 Dec 2016 #43
 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
4. Probably in response to something Obama has put in the works...
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:45 PM
Dec 2016

remember..."we will at at a time of our choosing"....

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
27. Obama sure has a way of...
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:26 PM
Dec 2016

seriously pissin' off old white men!

I reckon it's time for their last gasp.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
7. Exactly... it's all about showmanship with them. The "bright new tomorrow" will only look good
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:08 PM
Dec 2016

if it appears to be in stark contrast to what was before.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
31. Only Comrade Trump can save us.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 04:14 PM
Dec 2016

That, and the lifting of all sanctions on Mother Russia, of course.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
15. Not sure how this makes Trump look good...if they freeze not and defrost later
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:27 PM
Dec 2016

doesn't that make a case for the Putin-Trump accord?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
35. NO. It only shows that Trump is a strong leader.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 06:16 PM
Dec 2016

He will save us from Putin's strong-arm tactics that he's exercising against the weak president Obama. Thank God for Trump to come in and change things.

You and I both know what's really going on. It seems obvious. It IS obvious. This stupid game has been played countless times before.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
37. But don't even the most uninformed have some inkling about at Putin connection?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 07:12 PM
Dec 2016

they can't all be that ignorant...can they. Plus why would Putin wait until the last month of the Obama presidency to "freeze" relations? Hopefully, the other show will drop and it will become obvious to even the Trumpsters what Putin was reacting to... it will be something even Fox can't ignore.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
41. The "most uninformed" don't care.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 07:47 PM
Dec 2016

Are you kidding me?

It doesn't matter when relations are "frozen". The story you're going to hear and love is going to be the same we all get on Inauguration Day.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
17. And when Trump takes office things will change 180 degrees
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:55 PM
Dec 2016



And Trump will (supposedly) look like a great diplomat.


Do they really think we are that stupid just because it looks like he won the selection?

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
30. Please turn back in your textbooks to January 20, 1981.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:57 PM
Dec 2016

When American hostages at the Iran Embassy, who had been held for 444 days, and that we all heard about on Nightline (an ABC news show that was created during that crisis) were finally released upon Reagan's inauguration.

We were all told at the time that Reagan's inherent strength got those hostages out. The Iranians were terribly afraid of him, so they let them go. It was only later that we found out that Reagan's team had already negotiated a deal with Iran to release those hostages given that they could give them weapons.

This is the same thing happening again. It's crazy that I'm watching it going on, but no one can do anything about it. Maybe I'm just too old.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
20. The Russian statement is that the channels are frozen. Doesn't say who froze them.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 02:21 PM
Dec 2016
"With the United States, nearly all levels of dialogue are in a frozen state. We do not communicate with each other or do it minimally," Peskov told the MIR television channel.


Read more: https://sputniknews.com/politics/201612211048839472-russia-us-kremlin/

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
25. "nearly all" is not "all" and I question if it is really a huge change
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:17 PM
Dec 2016

Unless something changed today, there is a readout of a Kerry/Lavrov phone call in yesterday's State Department briefing -- and there was a statement from Kerry offering condolances on the death of the Russian ambassador. For a long time, Kerry has been credited to be almost the only one even trying to speak to Russia with Obama's blessings.

From yesterday's state department briefing:
QUESTION: And then I just wanted to ask about the Moscow talks on Syria today, whether you’ve been in touch with anyone – you, the State Department – and have any readout or assessment of what was agreed in this declaration.

MR KIRBY: Well, as you know, we weren’t a party to the talks, but Secretary Kerry did speak today to both Foreign Minister Lavrov and Foreign Minister Cavusoglu, who were there. And they provided the Secretary a sense of how the discussions went. I think – if you haven’t seen it, we can make sure you get it – there was a joint statement issued by all three countries at the end of the discussion, and I think they did a press conference as well. And as I said yesterday, the Secretary certainly welcomes any effort to try to get a ceasefire in Syria that can actually have meaningful results, particularly for those people that remain in Aleppo, as well as the resumption of political talks. And when he talked to both foreign ministers, he again stressed the need to try to get those political talks back on track as soon as possible.
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/12/265846.htm

From Monday - Kerry's statement on the ambassador's assassination.

The United States condemns the assassination today in Ankara of Russian Ambassador Andrey Karlov. Our thoughts and prayers are with his loved ones, the Russian people, and with the other victims who were injured in this shooting.

We stand ready to offer assistance to Russia and Turkey as they investigate this despicable attack, which was also an assault on the right of all diplomats to safely and securely advance and represent their nations around the world.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/remarks/2016/12/265774.htm

It is clear that Russia, Turkey and Iran have been in talks on Syria for about a week - and both the UN and the US are not there. Lavrov has spoken of talks with the UN and US being useless. The UN and the US, on the other hand, have both called the actions of the Assad regime and Russia to be despicable - and more.

The question I have is what is in it for RUSSIA to make announcements that nearly all commincations with the US are frozen?



 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
29. We are seeing how Putin plans to play his hand.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:54 PM
Dec 2016

If you have noticed Trump's latest tirades have been focused on the Obama's and Clinton's. When Mr. Obama ramped up sanctions,which has hit Putin's Pals as well as his Oil Friends,Trump has slimmed Michele Obama,yesterday he went after Bill Clinton,which he will pay the price bigly,and still playing the Hillary is a Crook card when commenting about the Electoral College.

Putin is all in with the Con Man Elect,clue,watch what China is doing,today they expanded their export of certain key Extraction Resources. This is a shot at our so called East Coast Coal Exports,yes those same stooges that voted for the Con Job. Just the start.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
23. For about 30 days
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:00 PM
Dec 2016

Won't it just start back up after Obama leaves office? Not exactly surprising. Obama and Putin were mortal enemies.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
24. Meh
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 03:06 PM
Dec 2016

Sanctions have been around before this started, so what have sanctions accomplished. Guess what works. Travel. Stop travel between the 2 countries, then you will see some meaningful diplomacy.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
40. It's kind of weird isn't it?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 07:39 PM
Dec 2016

Another unintended consequence of globlalism: everybody thinks they get to vote in our elections

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