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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:51 PM Dec 2016

Russias meddling to get Donald Trump elected president is straight out of the old KGB playbook

http://qz.com/864189/election-2016-russian-intervention-on-behalf-of-donald-trump-this-election-is-straight-out-of-the-kgb-playbook/

Mysterious arrests. Disappearances. A far away death in an unknown gulag concealed from family for a generation. These are realities for those of us whose families came to the US from Eastern Europe in the aftermath of the last world war and subsequent Soviet occupation. These are also the reasons why every act against Donald Trump now is an act of patriotism on behalf of the American people.

During the 1970s and 1980s, KGB defectors warned Americans to beware Russian interference. Those warnings were mostly buried. Today, however, Trump’s rise should be examined in the context of these methods of Kremlin ideological subversion and psychological warfare.

The confluence of evidence suggests Donald Trump was supported, and his campaign efforts bolstered, by Russia this election season (as the National Security Agency and the Central Intelligence Agency have concluded). Plucked from the KGB’s (now FSB’s) playbook for installing world leaders sympathetic to Moscow, we are now witnessing what Russian intelligence officers would refer to as “active measures.”

The first phase of this strategy is to bombard a nation with propaganda, usually of a racist, anti-Semitic nature. The point of this propaganda is to sow the seeds of discord among a population. The second phase is the instigation of incidents that can be used and broadcast widely for the purposes of demoralization. In phase three, Russia installs a friendly leader and leverages the economy according to Moscow’s will.

In the US, phase one was accomplished through the spread of propaganda, often but not always in the form of “fake news,” on social media and at Trump’s rallies. Mainstream media networks played a useful role here by allowing Trump’s rallies to be broadcast unfiltered and often unchallenged, further normalizing Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric. We are now between the second phase, with its intent of demoralization. We must never allow the final stage.

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David__77

(23,382 posts)
1. Is Russian support necessarily a mark against a candidate?
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 09:56 PM
Dec 2016

I think that in 1984, some circles in the Soviet government might have thought it would be best for Walter Mondale to win the US presidency. I believe I would have been quite pleased to vote for Mondale.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
2. Umm, there is a difference between support and hiring trolls to flood the internet
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:02 PM
Dec 2016

and create propaganda AND hack private emails and reveal them strategically.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
8. Putin's/Russia's corruption makes Trump's corruption look like child's play. Trump is Putin's MiniMe
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 05:57 AM
Dec 2016

Trump is Putin's MiniMe. That is in no way good for america.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
3. There are so many ties between Russia and Trump
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 10:53 PM
Dec 2016

for anyone interested (I'd think you would be but whatever lets argue over DNC chair like that is going to change squat lol but I digress) at the http://www.democraticcoalition.org/

I posted something similar a couple weeks ago. The Russia angle is the only thing that will ever bring the Republicons on board to stop Trump in my opinion. That's why I think it's the most important thing. We can't convince his idiot followers but those in office know a lot more than they are telling.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
4. that's the thing, and Putin is supposedly worth $40billion in corrupt, embezzled money from the old
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 11:00 PM
Dec 2016

USSR, now russia, etc.; he's got all the money in the world to buy a tool like Trump, and all the election meddling/hacking it takes to get him elected. Putin owns trump, and trump is so stupid he doesn't even know it.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
7. Let's hope we can get through to some Republicans
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:25 AM
Dec 2016

and I'm sure many of them are pretty disgusted about the Putin connection

Cha

(297,196 posts)
9. They could not have done it without them.. I'd say "useful"
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:26 AM
Dec 2016
Mainstream media networks played a useful role here by allowing Trump’s rallies to be broadcast unfiltered and often unchallenged, further normalizing Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric. We are now between the second phase, with its intent of demoralization. We must never allow the final stage

Mahalo, flamingdem

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
10. Well let's hope that something was learned
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 01:02 AM
Dec 2016

It's in the media's interest to discourage world destruction by the nutty nukester! (I hope..)

My very best to you Cha!

Cha

(297,196 posts)
11. I have my doubts about the US M$Media******
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 01:07 AM
Dec 2016

Imv, they brought us ISIS through pimping bush2's war on Iraq.. they don't care as long as the ratings and ads are being bought.

My very best to you, Flamingdem!

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