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It Has Happened Here: The Nazi Rally in Madison Square Garden (1939) (Original Post) ChicagoRonin Dec 2016 OP
Damn... Docreed2003 Dec 2016 #1
Trump reads Hitler's speeches for inspiration. FuzzyRabbit Dec 2016 #2
Yes it has burrowowl Dec 2016 #3
Before the war most people didn't know how horrible the Nazis were. Kablooie Dec 2016 #4
These people were Nazis and they were horrible oberliner Dec 2016 #7
They knew plenty loyalsister Dec 2016 #8
The American public was not told about the concentration camps until March 1942 Lurks Often Dec 2016 #10
Yeah, this is something known to a few people. Behind the Aegis Dec 2016 #5
That is exactly why some people have been a little nervous about DNA testing loyalsister Dec 2016 #9
was Trump's dad there ? JI7 Dec 2016 #6
I wonder if Fred Trump attended? csziggy Dec 2016 #11
Did Henry Ford go? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #12

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
1. Damn...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 01:06 AM
Dec 2016

I consider myself a history nut and I had no idea this happened. That looks strikingly like a typical Trump rally.

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
4. Before the war most people didn't know how horrible the Nazis were.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:05 AM
Dec 2016

They were called the National Socialist German Workers' Party not Nazi and Hitler had been loudly proclaiming that he was a man of peace, not war. Most of the world believed him.
Hard to believe now.

(I'm reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich right now. Fascinating book. Hitler made fake Polish soldier uniforms and had his SS men overthrow a German radio station and send out a Polish broadcast the day before he attacked Poland. This was so he could claim that Poland attacked first.)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. These people were Nazis and they were horrible
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:36 AM
Dec 2016

They called FDR "Franklin Rosenfeld" and claimed he was part of an international Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy. In the speech he called The New Deal "The Jew Deal". In 1939, the Nazi antisemitism was in full swing and was widely reported on in the United States.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. They knew plenty
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:00 AM
Dec 2016

They modeled their policies after ours.
A meeting Harry Laughlin and Charles Davenport met with the American Breeders Association in 1909 to embark on a project to breed humans the way farmers bred animals. Thus began the US eugenics movement in pursuit of the American "nordic superior race." Harry Laughlin worked to develop legislation and policies in the US which were adopted in Germany.....

The Reichstag of Nazi Germany passed the Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring in 1933, closely based on Laughlin's model. Between 35,000 and 80,000 persons were sterilized in the first full year alone. (It is now known that over 350,000 persons were sterilized). Laughlin was awarded an honorary degree by the University of Heidelberg in 1936 for his work behalf of the “science of racial cleansing.” (Five other Americans received honorary degrees the same year). However, reports about the extensive use of compulsory sterilization in Germany began to appear in US newspapers. By the end of the decade, eugenics had become associated with Nazism and poor science. Support for groups like the American Eugenics Society began to fade. In 1935, a review panel convened by the Carnegie Institute concluded that the ERO's research did not have scientific merit. By 1939, the Institute withdrew funding for the ERO, and the office was forced to close.


We didn't know how extensively the Jewish people were targeted but they knew that he was perfecting his methods with disabled people as targets. It's not a stretch to consider that it would have gone much further here if not for the worldwide horror

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_H._Laughlin
 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
10. The American public was not told about the concentration camps until March 1942
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 09:54 AM
Dec 2016

The above is the earliest date I was able to find as to when the American public was actually told.

I also don't think most Americans really realize how much of a threat the Communists were thought to be back then.

Behind the Aegis

(53,951 posts)
5. Yeah, this is something known to a few people.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:10 AM
Dec 2016

It is happening again, just with a "polished" look. The only difference, is the anti-Semitism is being overlooked.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
11. I wonder if Fred Trump attended?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 10:16 AM
Dec 2016

Though Fred Trump's arrest was as a KKK member brawling with fascists and objecting to "Roman Catholic police of New York City."

In 1927, Donald Trump’s father was arrested after a Klan riot in Queens
By Philip Bump February 29 {2016}

On Memorial Day 1927, brawls erupted in New York led by sympathizers of the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. In the fascist brawl, which took place in the Bronx, two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists. In Queens, 1,000 white-robed Klansmen marched through the Jamaica neighborhood, eventually spurring an all-out brawl in which seven men were arrested.

One of those arrested was Fred Trump of 175-24 Devonshire Rd. in Jamaica.

This is Donald Trump's father. Trump had a brother named Fred, but he wasn't born until more than a decade later. The Fred Trump at Devonshire Road was the Fred C. Trump who lived there with his mother, according to the 1930 Census.

More, with images of the original documents: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/02/28/in-1927-donald-trumps-father-was-arrested-after-a-klan-riot-in-queens/
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