NASCAR driver shows his idiocy in typical NASCAR fashion.

[comipinko]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079678/NASCAR-drivers-Twitter-rampage-sees-woman-breastfeeding-supermarket.html



What a gem of a man.

[FreakinDJ]

1. Get a Recieving blanket

[petronius]

80. Exactly! And use it to blindfold this idiot so he doesn't see things that make him feel icky

Although not while he's driving, of course...

[comipinko]

94. Great post!!

Some folks need "morality blinders", so as not to offend thier tiny, closed minds.

[FreakinDJ]

95. Didn't your mother teach you proper etiquette

I feel sorry for you

The NASCAR drive is wrong for objecting

Mothers who insist in exposing themselves with little or no regard for those around them display a lack of etiquette to say the least.

Special Clothing
The first thing to remember when you have to breastfeed in public is to wear clothes that lets you breastfeed easily. You can use nursing clothes with buttons, snaps or hooks so as not to expose your breast accidentally while performing other tasks. Use nursing clothes that have flaps or ties in order to avoid embarrassing situations; there is such a wide array of nursing clothes being sold these days. These clothes have become really fashionable as well, so you don't have to look matronly when wearing them. It can also help if you put on a camisole or nursing tank under other clothing.

Other Techniques
If you still don't have appropriate nursing clothes, you can always carry a fashionable blanket or other cover ups which can be draped easily over your shoulder when your baby needs a feeding time. You may also use a stylish baby wrap or sling. You can use these not just to carry infants but also to cover up when there is a need to breastfeed in public. You may also want to bring extra breast feeding supplies at hand wherever you go such as additional blankets, breast milk pads, and burp cloths to save you from any embarrassing situation.

http://www.wahm.com/articles/the-etiquette-for-breastfeeding-in-public.html

[comipinko]

96. so, freakinDJ thinks he is the arbiter of etiquette.

FAIL

[FreakinDJ]

98. I know the difference - and feel sorry for you

You should really attempt some self improvement in this area

[comipinko]

100. The "difference" between what?? Your silly opinion and reality??

Again, for those who are slow, in this case, the onus is on the "offended" to look away, and stfu.

I promise not to take offense if you choose not to breast feed in a public area.

[FreakinDJ]

105. No Class

[riderinthestorm]

108. "Classy" is an entirely subjective term. Your "offense" at something you deem "unclassy"

isn't rational (except to you). My mother believes any gay couple holding hands in public is "unclassy". She's also offended at mixed race couples. She's horrified if someone forgets to put their napkin on their lap and when I open my own car door instead of waiting for my husband - how "unclassy". That's how I was raised. There are hundreds of manufactured "classy" and "unclassy" things people do in her opinion. But that's just the thing: they are her OPINION and without any substantiated basis in fact.

As an adult, I KNOW she's wrong on all of the above. You too can begin to shed your prejudices and manufactured offense at outdated notions that simply don't apply anymore such as being "offended" at a woman breastfeeding her child in public. We are long past a time in our society when any woman should be shamed into hiding a nursing baby. We now have factual evidence of the enormous value in breastfeeding and we should be celebrating it, encouraging it, and helping EVERY mother in being successful at it. It's not shameful in any way and frankly, saying a woman breastfeeding is "unclassy" is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Oh, I know. You're only talking about the "covered" vs "uncovered" breast right? I don't buy that for a moment. It all goes together and you either support a woman's right to nurse her baby in public, in the way she and the baby are most comfortable, or you do not.

[Spazito]

121. + 1,000 n/t

[comipinko]

109. "No class" , he says, while whistling "the scarecrows" theme from the wizard of oz.

sheeeeesh.

[Odin2005]

144. Yes, because mothers have to cater to backwards prudes while feeding their kid.

[etherealtruth]

152. I was kinda thinking: use it to gag him with

He could be gagged while driving

[blueamy66]

2. I don't know.....

Did she HAVE to feed the kid in a supermarket? How about going out to the car? Or wait until they got home? Or at least cover up a bit......

I don't agree with what Kasey tweeted, but come on now....

[comipinko]

3. vrooom-vrooom?

lol

[trumad]

6. God Damn---and it's 2012.

A TIT! A God Damn TIT!

A Tit!!! A God Damn Tit!

[99Forever]

22. To be quite blunt..

.. if seeing one of the most natural things in the world offends you, then the problem lies within you, not the mother and child doing that which has happened since before our prehuman ancestors walked upright.

[hfojvt]

35. One of the most natural things in the world

is to take a dump. But just because it is natural does not mean it's okay to take a dump in a supermarket aisle.

Sneezing is natural too, but people are expected to cover up and not just sneeze on the supermarket produce because they need to sneeze.

[trumad]

36. You equate taking a shit to breastfeeding.

Really?

[unapatriciated]

150. not to mention a germ infested sneeze.

I second that Really?

[blueamy66]

153. no, I equated taking a piss to breastfeeding

both are natural occurrences....both can be done in the privacy behind a closed door, no?

[99Forever]

39. I really feel sorry for people like you.

I mean that honestly. Whatever traumatic event that occurred, seems to have really distorted your view of humanity in a disturbing way.

Defecating and breastfeeding are even remotely alike? Only in a twisted mind.

[LanternWaste]

40. You can of course allow us the ethical more

You can of course allow us the ethical more that public breast-feeding bends or breaks, yes?

Or is your argument predicated merely on the fact that public defecation (which leads directly to dysentery, cholera, intestinal worms and typhoid-- hence, our learned cultural precautions and traditions) is, in this context, the precise same thing as feeding one's infant?




(Yours may actually be the most petulant bit of sub-literate thought I've encounter this week...)

[hfojvt]

74. it always amazes me when people are clueless about how analogies work

Or at least they pretend to be, so they can fling some insults.

[JHB]

81. Analogies require comparable circumstances

Your analogy only addresses the "natural" part. It ignores the dissimilarity in relative potential of harm to others.

Public defecation and sneezing on produce can spread disease. How does breast feeding do anything similar? In what way is your analogy actually analogous on that count?

[hfojvt]

91. because the natural part is the relevant part

it was used in the defense. "If seeing one of the most natural things in the world ..."

Thus the argument was "public breast feeding is okay, because breast feeding is natural".

Well, both sneezing and defecating are natural as well, but they are restricted.

As far as spreading germs go, that would work just as well with bathrooms with open windows and without partitions. We don't just flush the germs away, we hide from sight. We don't like to see it, even though it is "one of the most natural things in the world".

And as far as that goes, if somebody makes a false argument that 5 is less than three, there is nothing especially wrong if I dispute that argument. I don't have to acknowledge that, yes, 5 is a prime number.

But people jump in when I say that 17 and 11 are both prime numbers with "so you think that 17 is equal to 11, how ridiculous".

[Tsiyu]

141. Be offended...be very offended

&feature=player_embedded

This is EXACTLY like defecating, no?

[comipinko]

78. Using your "sub-literate" line twice in the same thread is, well,

SUB-LITERATE ! IMO

[comipinko]

44. see response #11

[blueamy66]

154. who said that it offends me?

just don't wanna see it in public

just like I don't wanna see some guy's penis peeing up against a tree....both natural occurrences, no?

[mrs_p]

161. boob and penis

exactly the same. yes, exactly.

[FreakinDJ]

32. Love is a Beautiful thing - but at 54 not to many people want to watch me doing it

by the same logic

[comipinko]

77. I see NO logic in your attempted analogy.

[FreakinDJ]

79. Truth is disappointing for you - It is a matter of etiquette

Many here would agree the female breast is a beautiful thing - but many here feel its "Tacky" to whip them out in public

If they don't have the class to keep a receiving blanket handy for just such occasions then they open themselves up to ridicule

[comipinko]

82. I think mullets are "tacky" , I think cut off jeans are "tacky".

Sorry, it is not about etiquette. The onus , in this case, is on the "offended". Just look away, and stfu.

[FreakinDJ]

84. Hope your mother used a receiving blanket with you

I hate to talk about people's mothers

[comipinko]

86. Now it devolves into a personal attack???

Oh, boy. Now THAT is "sub-literate" !! LOL !!!

[FreakinDJ]

90. "Get a blanket"

[comipinko]

92. sub-sub-literate.

Your dancing banana seems to have a better grasp than do you.

[randome]

93. Continue to amuse me, my little word puppets...

...and I will continue to let you.

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!

(Sorry, just thought you guys might appreciate a time-out.)

[riderinthestorm]

85. Etiquette?? Really? Another analogy fail.

Breastfeeding is so far removed from "ridiculous" it's unbelievable you'd even try to go there as an analogy! We are mammals. We feed our children from breasts. It's not tacky, it's exactly perfect and to hold it up as a subject of ridicule on any level is the "tacky" part.

And who gets to decide what is "tacky" when it comes to natural normal human behavior? Holding hands? Kissing? How about when gay people do those things, is that tacky?

[comipinko]

87. Some people's kids, aye?

[Missy Vixen]

103. Why do you care?

NEWS FLASH: Breasts were made to nurture young, first and foremost. When the baby's hungry, he or she is hungry. Breastfeeding is the best possible nutrition for a baby. Why should the mother have to rearrange her entire day because you might see a child breastfeeding?

One of my co-workers feeds her four-month-old son while we meet. It's not offensive at all. I'm happy she has the opportunity to do so.

[blueamy66]

155. Okay, to be crass....

if breasts are only to feed the young....hope you never had any "sexual activity" associated with those breasts....cause I know that my fiance is old enough to pour a glass of milk for himself, ya know? thinkng he doesn't need to "nurse"

next time he wants to "play", guess I'll tell him that those babies are only to nurse babies....unbelievable!

[Missy Vixen]

167. Most adults old enough for sexual activity can distinguish a difference between nursing a child and

foreplay. If you or your fiance are unable to make that distinction, you might need to seek some additional help.

Perhaps you might also want to read up on the benefits of breastfeeding.

[BlueIris]

134. "(B)ut come on now..."

You act as if people defending a breastfeeding mom are being unreasonable. It's the 21st century and women are entitled to feed their children wherever they need to. Those bystanders too immature or to used to seeing a woman's breast as "inappropriate" can look away. They are the one's being unreasonable.

[Odin2005]

145. Yes, because a crying hungry baby is so easy to deal with!

[Cairycat]

4. Breastfeeding is about feeding a baby.

If it is acceptable to feed a baby from a bottle in a supermarket, then it is acceptable to breastfeed there.
If you do not demand that babies fed from bottles be covered in receiving blankets or taken to cars, then it is unacceptable to say that breastfed babies should be.

Demanding otherwise is discrimination and against the law in many states.

Humans are mammals. People who don't like breastfeeding need to grow up and get over it, period.

[comipinko]

5. Here Here !!!

[blueamy66]

7. I don't agree.

I think that a boob and a bottle look a bit different....but hey, I could be wrong.

I'm not "against" breastfeeding....just be smart, ya know?

People need to urinate.....that doesn't mean I want to see a guy whip out his penis and pee at a tree in the supermarket parking lot......hey, that's kinda funny

[izquierdista]

9. You haven't been to France, have you?

Jus' askin'

[comipinko]

11. "...just be smart...."

your analogy is both stupid, and offensive.

[mrs_p]

162. wow - on to a personal attack

you are really winning this one

[mrs_p]

21. When was the last time you drank your urine?

Jeez, this analogy not only doesn't equate, it's just plain stupid. And, not original at all. Look at any breastfeeding discrimination story and somebody references peeing. As if peeing and feeding a baby are the same.

I bet you get to eat in public, though.

[hfojvt]

41. they are both natural body functions

If public breast feeding is gonna be defended because "it is only natural" then logically people are gonna find examples of other things that are natural, but generally not allowed in public. As for eating, there are many many places that say "no food or drink allowed".

And what does originality have to do with truth? If we are discussing numbers and I mention that 3 cubed is 27 does it make me wrong if somebody calls that out for being unoriginal? In fact, error is usually more original than truth. 31 would be a more original answer than 27.

[comipinko]

45. read response # 11

[hfojvt]

75. seems to me nothing more than a puerile insult

which is both stupid and offensive

[comipinko]

76. The only thing "puerile" in this thread (Other than the tweets involved) are the ...

"analogies" of breast feeding to defication and urination. Those who make such comparisons are , IMO, the childish ones.

[LanternWaste]

47. Some natural functions leads directly to cholera, dysentery and typhoid. Others do not, yes?

Some natural functions done in public (e.g., defecation) leads directly to cholera, dysentery and typhoid. Other natural functions done in public (e.g, breast-feeding and breast-feeding) do not. Hence, our learned traditions and precautions for the one, but not for the other... unless of course you believe breathing should also be covered up...?

[blueamy66]

163. Yeah, that is what I believe.

Breathing should be covered up.

[blueamy66]

157. Um, never....

but why does one need to pull their boob out in public?

Is it that hard to drape a blanket over the baby's head? Really?

When men think of boobs as ONLY breast feeding objects, I'll agree with you.

So much for breast augmentation surgeries....cause when you have that surgery, you can feed your baby soooo much better.

don't be obtuse

[mrs_p]

159. Your analogy

which you also thought was, oh, so funny and clever. Urination in public and breastfeeding in public are not nearly the same. You can hate breastfeeding all you want - but it is LEGAL and not considered indecent, except to some (mostly American) sensibilities. A child is just eating for god's sake. If a boob offends you so much, I suggest looking only at faces.

[riverwalker]

61. big difference

a penis is genitalia, created for procreation. A breast is not genitalia, their purpose is to feed babies. Not feed the erotic fantasies of anyone nearby. Peeing in a parking lot leads to disease, public sewage. Breast feeding leads to a happy, healthy baby.

[blueamy66]

158. so then why the fascination with women's boobs

by men?

Is it a Mommy thing?

PLLLEEEAAASE

I was adopted...my Mom couldn't breastfeed....guess I was an unhappy, unhealthy baby...whose only stay in a hospital was to remove my tonsils.....

[mrs_p]

160. I was formula-fed too

No one is saying babies are unhappy that aren't breastfed. Honestly, I think you have another agenda going on here. Hate it all you want - doesn't matter. IT IS LEGAL. So, either get over it, don't look, or don't go out in public space that might be inhabited by boob-fed babies.

[blueamy66]

164. No, I don't have another agenda.

I just don't understand how freaking hard it is to cover up while breastfeeding.

I also don't understand why people are posting that the only purpose that women have boobs is to breastfeed. Maybe that is what God intended, but man, methinks, may have changed that.

[mrs_p]

166. Sometimes the baby throws the cover off.

Sometimes it is too hard to see if the baby is latched on properly. Sometimes the baby won't nurse under a blanket. Perhaps the mom is too hot or the baby? I take it you have never had to use a hooter hider? They can be very cumbersome and awkward, and blankets get thrown every which way, or just fall off.

I manage to use one anyway, but it my CHOICE, and not really my place to judge other moms. They legally have the right to breastfeed whichever way they wish. Doesn't matter what you or I or anyone else on this board thinks. If you hate it, perhaps you can push your legislator to introduce a bill demanding women remain covered when breastfeeding. Until then, you can complain on DU and other internet sites anonymously where you can compare peeing to eating, avert your eyes when you see a boob, don't visit places where moms and babes go, or maybe even go up to the mom and express your disgust right to her face.

I was raised thinking exactly like you - then I HAD A BABY and realized how very wrong I was. Yeah, my hubby likes the boobies - but so what? These gals are strictly feeders now and I don't know if I could ever think of them another way again. My husband (and anyone else for that matter) comes after my baby when it comes to the boobs. And, as others have said in this thread, it is primarily in America where you see this breast obsession. So, why should a woman hide her breasts so they don't arouse the men? I think they do something similar in Sharia countries where women must be hidden head to toe, no? "Just in case" the men get a warm feeling from seeing, god forbid, a little woman flesh.

[chrisa]

8. OMG a boob! Run!!!

Then, he showed his true class by not only calling someone on twitter a b*tch, but also misspelling "you're" as "your." 'Ye-haw!' lol

[comipinko]

15. Boobs lead to dancing, dancing leads to..........

[blue neen]

10. He's extremely immature.

It's hard to believe that Kahne is 31. He may also believe that the stork brings babies to cabbage patches.

[comipinko]

13. Home schooled, no doubt.

if at all.

[RC]

12. Why are people OK with a unnatural bottle, but not natural jugs for feeding a baby?

Why are woman's nipples so disgusting to some, except in the bedroom? We are animals, with animal functions and instincts. Get over it.

[comipinko]

14. >religion<

[MineralMan]

16. This religion?

[comipinko]

17. That is a painting.

Art is not a friend of religion. Art opens the mind, religion is meant to contain the mind.

[Union Scribe]

20. Lol.

Apparently this message didn't get to the creators of masterpieces throughout the centuries.

[MineralMan]

23. Art in the name of religion has been sponsored by organized

religion for centuries. The "Maddona lactans" image was a very popular one. Most of those paintings were paid for by the RCC, to be quite frank.

The point, of course, is that the "baby Jesus" was fed from a breast, not a bottle. The religious argument against breast-feeding is moronic on its face.

[comipinko]

29. Artists have to eat....

the work they did outside of thier "sponsors" are the real mind openers.

[LanternWaste]

54. And your rationalizations and editorials in the face of evidence continue...

And your rationalizations and editorials in the face of evidence continues...

religion causes people to hate breastfeeding in public may be the second most dogmatic and subliterate statement I've read this week...

:lol:

[comipinko]

63. Do you deny that the "shame" of human nudity is an outcrop of religious indoctrination?

Your "subliterate" statement is evidence of your own "religious" leanings. Carry on !

my experience is that those who can believe in fairy tales, can not, in any real way, be reasoned with.

LOL indeed.

[LanternWaste]

69. It is attributed in part to social customs based on geographical locations

"Do you deny that the "shame" of human nudity ..."

It is attributed in part to social customs based on geographical locations (Wellspring: On the Myth and Source of Culture by Robert Armstrong).


Sigh. It appears a rigid and unblinking dogma is certainly not the sole domain of religion. For my part, I would think a person may be kind or hateful, intelligent or dull regardless of religion... or lack of it.

But I do understand the convenience that an unyielding doctrine contrary to that opinion would allow...

[comipinko]

71. WELLSPRING ????? F'n LOL !!!!!!

Why not cite AmWay ???? And the chariot goes CRASH !!!

Did you follow "EST" in the 8o's??? sheeeeesh!!!

[RC]

49. Oh yeah, the root of all evil.

[Mariana]

88. I wouldn't be so sure

that some of the more vehement ones don't consider women's nipples to be disgusting in the bedroom, too. Notice the expressions of utter revulsion at the thought of seeing a woman breastfeeding. Consider the way they associate and equate breastfeeding with defecation. I suspect that some of them think women's nipples are gross all the time.

[Poll_Blind]

18. What a pig. nt

PB

[Union Scribe]

19. He sounds like an all around class act.

The first tweet was dumb enough but then he attacks a woman who criticizes him, and he's been arrested for assaulting an elderly man. What an A-1 asshole.

[yella_dawg]

24. Odd.

Apparently, his linguistic skills are a match for his interpersonal skills.

[Fawke Em]

25. He even misspelled "you're" as "your" in his offensive "dumb b&tch" tweet.

What an uneducated dumb ass.

I'm guessing he doesn't appeal to women now, so maybe Allstate should dump him alleging they did a double take and didn't like what they saw the second time around.

[randome]

26. This is another topic that should be decided by women and ONLY women.

Same as for abortion.

[comipinko]

27. ...by THE woman, not by "women".

[randome]

28. I meant it should be decided whether or not it's 'permissable' in public.

[FloridaJudy]

128. I have nothing against public breastfeeding

But public abortions strike me as unsanitary.

[pipi_k]

30. So what I gather...

having read through the replies here, is that many people feel that if they aren't personally offended by something, then nobody else should be, either.

Well, there are people out there in the world who are uncomfortable with public breastfeeding. Never mind why. It's nobody else's business why.

That doesn't mean the offended or uncomfortable ones have to get all nasty and say unkind things.

But neither is it cool for people who call themselves "Liberals" or "Progressives" to put down anyone who, for one reason or another, are bothered by certain things. How about a little common courtesy? That would be nice. How about realizing that not everyone is going to feel comfortable with certain things and doing what one needs to do while being considerate of the sensitivities of others?

This in-your-face, "fuck you...grow up!" attitude so many people seem to have is disgusting. As if they're the only ones walking around in the world and nobody else's feelings matter.

PS...public breastfeeding doesn't bother me. But I do appreciate when a woman makes an effort to consider other people, like my stepdaughter did after her daughter was born this past May. She either left the room, or covered up with a light scarf to feed her baby.

[comipinko]

31. Sorry, there is NO "right" to not be offended.

sorry again, but FU, grow up, is the best response.

[pipi_k]

42. So does that apply to everything?

For example, if someone tells a sexist or racist joke, nobody else has the right to be offended?

If someone goes into a cemetery and takes a dump on a grave, the family of the deceased doesn't have the right to be offended?

I dunno. Seems like plenty of people think they have enough of a right to be offended when, for example, they walk into a place of business and Fox News is playing on the TV. Offended enough to ask...no, demand that the channel be changed (or they will never patronize that business again!).

Seems to me that the "right to be offended" is pretty flexible depending on what the action is, and whether people agree with it or not.

[comipinko]

43. Read my post.

I said you have no "right" to NOT be offended.

[pipi_k]

48. Translation...

So does that mean people do indeed have the right to be offended?

[comipinko]

50. That would be a stretch of logic, but have at it!

LOL

[pipi_k]

53. OK thanks

but a simple yes or no would have been nice.

Unless I'm missing something important.

Not up to playing mind games today.

Sorry about that.

[comipinko]

60. Then, no.

[pipi_k]

70. OK then

do people not have a right to be offended about anything at all?

Or are people only allowed to be offended over things that we personally find offensive ourselves?

In other words, if a RW nut, for example, starts spouting off some questionable shit, you don't have the right to be offended by it?

I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from with this.

I mean, there can only be two choices...

1. Nobody has the right to be offended by anything at all, under any circumstances...or...

2. People have the right to be offended by what they think is offensive and they have the right to tell others what should, or should not, be offensive to them.

Which one is it?

[comipinko]

72. Let me know when you have comprehended this statement:

There is NO right not to be offended.

[Brickbat]

56. Because yeah, breastfeeding in public = pooping on a grave or a racist joke.

Come on, you can do better than that.

[pipi_k]

64. I never said they were the same

act.

They clearly aren't, and making them the same wasn't my point.

OK, let me try again without being specific about the actions.

There are certain actions that some people find disturbing, whether it's their upbringing or religious brainwashing, or because of mental or emotional problems.

It's not immaturity. It's not a matter of "growing up".

What I would agree IS a matter of immaturity is how someone reacts to something he finds upsetting or offensive.

If it's offensive, walk away. If it's offensive, say so in a civil manner and then let it go.

[Brickbat]

68. What does someone hope to gain by saying that breastfeeding in public is offensive, either to the

mother or to a discussion board?

Saying it to the mother is hurtful, no matter how "civilly" you say it.

Saying it to a discussion board -- well, you see what the reaction is. And quite right. I'm as bleeding-heart big-tent as they come, but you know what? Some minority opinions are in the minority for a reason: because they're stupid.

[pipi_k]

73. Believe me...

There are ways of making one's feelings known without being rude or hurtful.


Also, I would like to point out that a person who would be "hurt" by a polite statement from someone who finds an action offensive would probably be sensitive enough to actually care about how it affects others and at least try to be considerate in the future.

Whereas, in my experience, people who don't give a rat's ass about the feelings of others are very unlikely to be "hurt" by much of anything.

[trumad]

38. You do know that you're the only one in this thread that is offended.

You might want to reflect on that.

[pipi_k]

46. Upon reflection...

I am offended by the insensitive attitudes toward people who, for one reason or another, have issues with something.


I, personally, am not offended by blonde jokes. I do know, however, that many people are.

I don't tell blonde jokes out of consideration for the feelings of others.

I would consider it the height of rudeness to tell them, and then when someone is offended, say to that person, "Grow up!"

Sorry about that. I suppose I should blame that on my bad upbringing by parents who taught me that consideration for others is important, especially if I want it for myself.

[randome]

52. Yeah, the 'grow up' and the FU are not classy.

You're still wrong, though. (Meant with all the respect in the world.)

[pipi_k]

55. Please explain

exactly what I am "wrong" about.

I want to make sure and get it right when I complain to my therapist about the shitty upbringing my parents inflicted on me. You know...teaching me to have consideration for others and all...

[randome]

59. I meant that in a snarky way.

You are always entitled to your opinion.

[thucythucy]

133. Babies get hungry

and mothers generally have little or no control over when a baby might get hungry.

So, baby gets hungry while mother is shopping. In order not to "offend" the mother is supposed to:

a) let her baby starve for a while (probably resulting in wailing and crying, no doubt prompting responses about "rude" people who can't "control" their babies) or;

b) give up shopping so perhaps others in her family go hungry?

All the mothers I know are busy people juggling intense schedules and operating just this side of exhaustion. Millionaire NASCAR drivers, probably not so much. When your baby is hungry, your baby is hungry. This makes the issue a tad different from choosing to tell a blonde joke. I can decide when to or when not to tell a joke. I can't decide when my baby might or might not need to be fed.

Personally, I'm offended by people who earn big bucks in entertainment (which is what NASCAR is, after all) by driving around and around in circles, burning up petroleum, trashing the environment and spitting toxic fumes into the air I have to breathe. How sympathetic do you think Mr. NASCAR would be to my being offended about that?

[Tsiyu]

136. Well, if it weren't for blonde jokes

some babies WOULD go hungry I suppose......

[riderinthestorm]

62. So who is the arbiter of what's okay publicly and what's not? Can gay couples hold hands in public?

Lots of (idiotic) people are uncomfortable with that. How about a gay couple kissing? Cool or not cool with you? It will definitely "hurt someone's feelings". Do you get to decide what's "comfortable" to see in public? If not you, then who? Clearly there are some behaviors that aren't acceptable (stealing, beating people up) but breastfeeding? Come on.

These are natural human conditions: breastfeeding, holding a loved ones hand, kissing your partner.... we can and should ask why someone is offended by these types of things. Not too long ago, a whole boatload of people were offended by black people having relationships with white people. It was IMPERATIVE that we understood "why" people were offended, educated them, and if they then persisted in being offended, shunned them.

"Fuck you, grow up" is the next logical step towards those who persist in being "offended" by natural human interactions imho. The ones who continue to be offended are the disgusting ones.

[chrisa]

67. There's a difference between not caring about others' offense,

and not caring because what others are offended at is something they should not be offended at.

Note that this wouldn't even be an issue if he didn't start screaming like a man-child over Twitter because he saw a breast.

[blueamy66]

165. Good post

nt

[99Forever]

33. BTW...

I have just notified Great Clips, that should they continue to sponsor Kasey Kahne's ride in NASCAR, I will find a new place to have my hair cut. I've used the same salon, one of theirs, for eleven years. The guy most certainly has the right to say stupid things and be "offended" at the most natural of acts, but he doesn't have the right to do it, sans consequences.

And I LIKE NASCAR.

[Mr Dixon]

34. SMH

NASCAR enough said

[piratefish08]

37. grown ups in 2011 still have a problem with a baby being fed. even on DU. it's sad and childish.

[Spazito]

51. It seems that for someone SO offended by a woman breastfeeding her baby...

he spent an inordinate amount of time staring at the 'offensive' act, enough time to describe it in detail.

If seeing a woman breastfeeding her child bothers one, stop looking, move on, seems simple enough to me.

I see he apologized, I guess his sponsors weighed in and he saw his 'income' in jeopardy.

[pipi_k]

57. Well it was the same way

with one of my sisters and her husband (both Fundy Christians) back years ago.

They were so offended by porn that they rented lots and lots of movies to make sure they could work up enough outrage over it.

[Spazito]

58. And that relates to my post how?

Now you are equating breastfeeding with porn?

Interesting.

[Control-Z]

131. The inordinate amount of time

they spent watching some they found offensive?

"...he spent an inordinate amount of time staring at the 'offensive' act..."

[Mariana]

89. I wonder who wrote that "apology" for him. nt.

[Spazito]

117. I'm betting it was his agent or the publicity agent for his...

sponsor, either one hoping to do damage control.

[mfcorey1]

66. I have no respect for the NASCAR group that booed the first lady. This idiot must be their leader.

[comipinko]

83. WOW !! Let's all go to Target, then on to Olive Garden for lunch!!!!

[Tsiyu]

137. After that, a bris?

Or some cornflake encrusted fried chicken?

[TransitJohn]

97. What's 'typical NASCAR fashion', pray tell?

Nice impugning.

[comipinko]

99. If you have to ask, you may be too close.

[TransitJohn]

101. To close to what?

I just don't like bigotry.

[comipinko]

102. And I don't like NASCAR, or most of it's fans.

What of it?

[TransitJohn]

107. It's called prejudice

and used to be vilified in liberal circles.

[frylock]

113. enjoy your stay, bigot

[comipinko]

118. So, you're whistling that tune, too??

LOL, what a clown.

[ohheckyeah]

123. What a gem

of a man you are.

Are you just trying to see how offensive you can be?

[frylock]

124. you called me an assclown in that IM..

like i said, enjoy your short stay.

[frylock]

112. you'd be surprised by the amount of liberals who enjoy NASCAR..

your post comes across as kinda dickish.

[comipinko]

114. Right back at ya!!

[comipinko]

119. Who is YOUR favorite driver????

[ohheckyeah]

125. What does that have to do with anything? n/t

[TransitJohn]

127. None. I hate NASCAR.

What's that got to do with you being prejudicial and divisive?

[Missy Vixen]

104. I noted the sponsors on his racing outfit

I hope every female who's ever breastfed, WAS breastfed, or knows someone who is currently breastfeeding noted them as well, and will act accordingly.

Mr. Kahne's troubles are just beginning, I think.

I'm embarrassed he's from Washington State.

[Dawson Leery]

106. For Mr. Kahne and his good ole' boy's, breasts are supposed to be

for the pesonal pleasure of men only.

Grow up.

[raouldukelives]

111. He hates her for her freedoms. nt

[Ikonoklast]

115. ....and with this thread, I hereby declare DU3 officially broken in!

Olive Garden, here we come!



YEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!

[comipinko]

116. Bread sticks and breast feeding at it's finest.

[tammywammy]

148. I'm ready for some circumcision!

[Ikonoklast]

151. I am a Mohel in my spare time, not professionally, of course, strictly an amateur.

I work for tips.

[Angry Dragon]

120. .............

[ohheckyeah]

122. Typical NASCAR fashion?

BS.....Nascar drivers seem to be involved in a lot less scandals than football players, basketball players and baseball players. Kasey Kahne was wrong and shouldn't have Tweeted what he did but to say his idiocy is typical NASCAR fashion is over the top and ridiculous.

[dawg]

126. I have yet to see the breast that would spoil my appetite.

That's just weird.

I'm a prude, and I think women should use discretion when breastfeeding. But his comments are alien to me.

[TheCowsCameHome]

129. Vroooom! Vroooom! Hey, lookit me! Vrooooom.

What a douchebag.

[Justice wanted]

130. Honestly these drivers are a bunch of Jerks. Kind of remind me of the 1950s mindset. NARROW

RACIST and JUST WRONG for the most part.

(Granted not everyone was like that in the 50s but if you look at the shows and viewpoints back than.)

[octothorpe]

132. The guy comes off as a teenager, not an adult.

My gut reaction to the lady breastfeeding her baby in a public place is "why not cover up or go somewhere private", but then I think about it some more and can't really find any legitimate reason to justify that feeling. Therefore, I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.

Either way, the guy comes off as a total idiot.

[Tsiyu]

135. Now, explain to me why men spend a FORTUNE

going to strip clubs where there are boobs, spend a FORTUNE on booby mags, don't have single problem with scantily clad models, NASCAR models, advertising beauties, mens' club billboard ladies or even the multitude of nipples men expose while working in the summer, yet they are sqeamish about breastfeeding?

This is why I stopped dating American men...too many of them seem really messed up about things. REALLY messed up. I've never met or dated a non-American man who had the least problem with a breastfeeding female. Only American men are "offended."

Anybody care to explain this American phobia of the working breast to me?

[varelse]

138. Man, I wish I could recommend a reply

Sometimes I think Americans forget that most of the planet's human population doesn't share our cultural hangups.

[Tsiyu]

140. My cousin was in Sierra Leone this year

standing next to the guard checkpoint where people often seek medical attention. A women walked up and lifted her shirt and displayed her breasts, which were infected with mastitis.

The guards there didn't show any reaction so my cousin asked them why that didn't seem to bother them.

"In our country, breasts are for the babies. In America, your grown men are the babies."

I thought that was hilarious.

[flvegan]

139. Thread of the week!

[workinclasszero]

142. Republican teabagger hillbilly idiot who drives cars around in a circle for a living

has no right to make stupid ass statements about mothers doing what God intended them to do with their breasts!

Teabaggers SUCK!!

Shut up and drive jackass!

[Odin2005]

143. Many DUers would agree with this idiot, sadly.

[Tsiyu]

146. I'll add the same comment as before: look at the price of ignorance

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2011pres/01/20110120a.html

According to the “Call to Action,” breastfeeding protects babies from infections and illnesses that include diarrhea, ear infections, and pneumonia. Breastfed babies are also less likely to develop asthma, and those who are breastfed for six months are less likely to become obese. Mothers themselves who breastfeed have a decreased risk of breast and ovarian cancers.

A study published last year in the journal Pediatrics estimated that the nation would save $13 billion per year in health care and other costs if 90 percent of U.S. babies were exclusively breastfed for six months. Dr. Benjamin added that, by providing accommodations for nursing mothers, employers can reduce their company’s health care costs and lower their absenteeism and turnover rates.

“I believe that we as a nation are beginning to see a shift in how we think and talk about breastfeeding,” said Dr. Benjamin. “With this ‘Call to Action,’ I am urging everyone to help make breastfeeding easier.”

To order printed copies of the Surgeon General’s “Call to Action to Support Breastfeeding” and other materials, please call 1-800-CDC-INFO or email [e-mail] and reference the publication title.

For more information on breastfeeding, go to www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding or www.womenshealth.gov/breastfeeding/. To speak with a breastfeeding counselor call 1-800-994-9662 Monday through Friday, 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM ET."


Emphasis mine...this lunacy over lactation is costing us BILLIONS.

[Sanguineneck Hank]

147. 4 threads on the GD front page

You'd think he murdered fifty kids, but since he's a NASCAR driver, not only is it a-ok to let out all your hate against southerners, but you're patted on the back for it.

[HangOnKids]

149. I have read the entire thread and there is no Southern hate

What are you talking about? Please post a link to a post that bash Southerners. Thanks.