How Did Not Opposing Hitler Work Out?

[TaterBake]

If you don't fight for justice and equality against Trump and his scumbag deplorable followers, and his corporate scum helpers, you will deserve just what you get.

I will fight Trumpscum with all I have.

Just like our founding fathers would do if they were alive today.

If you don't need to see a doctor, get food that is no poisoned, breathe air that is not polluted, do nothing. If pushing all your possessions around in a stolen shopping cart is your retirement plan, do nothing to oppose the Russian backed fraud.


Who needs Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid anyway.......

Let's just sit back and watch the ice melt, and Florida and half the east coast sink below the waves.......

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. People in Germany didn't oppose Hitler when they had the chance

before about 1933, because for the most part they either agreed with him or were unaware of what the Nazis were really up to. Hitler didn't invent anti-Semitism; there was a strong undercurrent of it in Europe long before the Nazis took power. He merely used existing beliefs about Jews to whip up a frenzy of hatred for them and create a scapegoat to take the blame for Germany's serious economic problems after WWI. There was very little serious opposition to Hitler among Germany's population at that time.

We are in a very different situation. No doubt, Trump is an authoritarian with despotic tendencies. But Trump wanted to win the presidency more than he wants to be the president, so it's really the lunatic fringe of the GOP he's empowered that is the bigger problem. But unlike the Germans under Hitler, the majority of Americans did not vote for Trump, don't like him and don't trust him. And we know what he's up to. There will be strong opposition. You can count on it.

[TaterBake]

5. "There will be strong opposition"

You wish.

Most Americans are more interested in watching someone get voted off the island...... (reruns)


Trump and his scumbags will be raining whoopass on our country for years, and the Dems have already surrendered.

I for one will never surrender.

[hunter]

20. I figure about 40% of U.S. Americans have a positive impression of authoritarian leadership...

... the same sort of people who thought Hitler and Mussolini were swell guys who were bringing order to the world.

If not for our geographical distance, I think the U.S.A. would have folded to Nazi Germany as the French did.

Amazon's version of Philip K. Dick's "The Man in the High Castle" is an interesting depiction of that Nazi U.S.A..

[marlakay]

8. They were starving and had no jobs in Germany

after WW1. Hitler promised both food and jobs and they were desperate.

My daughter who works for a large mostly republican company said they voted for Trump because of his promise of jobs and lower taxes.

People don't listen about social issues or global warming if they are out of work or can't pay their bills, they will go with who ever helps them.

Its crazy to me they believed Trump more but his side had a ton of great liars and media to spread his lies.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

13. That was true of much of Germany after WWI

and that was why it was so easy to influence the vast majority of Germans that it was the Jews' fault that they had no money and no jobs. Our situation is different because even though Trump managed to con a lot of people with his false promises of jobs and low taxes, most of us did not vote for him. That's not to say that he isn't dangerous because obviously he and his minions are. What I am saying is that we are in a much better position than the Germans in 1933 because we are the majority and we know what he's up to.

[marlakay]

24. Too bad that majority is mostly here in CA

We can only do so much, majority of the states are practically forced to hear Fox daily all over in public places.

There is no changing the electoral process so we have to find a way to communicate past their propaganda which is hard because a belief system is tough to dismantle.

[world wide wally]

2. Russia has committed an act of war against the US and we are doing NOTHING but handing over the keys

to them as we watch them ruin our country to make us a third world nation and remove us as a threat to their future plans.

[sarisataka]

4. Are you ready

To go to war with Russia?

Spoiler alert- those little tussles in the Middle East ain't nothing compared to US v. Russia.

[world wide wally]

6. I'm ready to see Trump and McConnell tried for teason

[sarisataka]

11. So Russia commits

An act of war and our response should be to try some Americans, granted pretty heinous ones, for treason?

Seems to let Russia off easy.

[world wide wally]

12. One thing at a time but not "excuses" first

[TaterBake]

16. Attack Russia Stop Buying Their Oil And Borrowing Their Money

Simple.

Bus how is the world gonna get their gas......


And how can we kill the oceans and melt the ice without Russian Oil?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. I don't think we'll get into a shooting war with Russia.

Remember, Trump and Putin are BFFs (at least in Trump's mind), and Putin has no reason to want to blow us up if he can use Trump to get what he wants from us. Putin is also much smarter than Trump and I think he knows very well what mutual assured destruction means. Instead he wants to use Trump to help weaken or dissolve NATO so Russia can re-take control over the old Soviet Bloc countries.

[sarisataka]

14. I don't think we will either

Not do I think we should. I disagree that espionage is automatically an act of war. Yet quite a few folks are throwing that accusation around and I don't think they understand what they are saying.

Now if Russia directly hacked votes, I might change my opinion...

[world wide wally]

21. In this particular situation, I was not talking about a shooting war as retaliation.

We have a lot more tools in the shed than nukes. Russia's economy has been struggling for years for one thing. Beyond that, we have our own cyber warriors to play havoc with them in return.
My main point is holding Trump and McConnell responsible for their treachery and reciprocating in some fashion with Russia.
I don't like the idea of surrender.

[TheDebbieDee]

19. Do you know who is even more upset abt

this than you? The Chinese and our NATO Allies!

[BSdetect]

3. drumph is even more dangerous than hitler

He will have the nuclear option literally in his tiny hands and those are controlled by his tiny brain.

[sarisataka]

7. How much opposition

Is needed before a person doesn't "deserve what you get"? Voting in the next election, petitions, protests, civil disobedience, sabotage, civil war, revolution?

Since you made the comparison- "deserve what you get" can be extreme

[LanternWaste]

10. It appears you've gazed into the abyss for far too long.

It appears you've gazed into the abyss for far too long. Your moral absolutism and prophecies of who deserves what is as disheartening as what that which you proselytize against.

[MFM008]

15. Maggot and his cabal

Are the abyss.

[TaterBake]

18. "moral absolutism"

Is that what it is called when you get sick and have no health insurance, and no money, and know they want you to die as quickly as possible so you don't hurt some company's bottom line?

[TaterBake]

17. Look At The DOW Almost 20,000 - Corporate Scum Can't Wait

To begin extracting whatever we have left and not paying any bills for anything.

We're so screwed.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

22. It's a bubble.

Before long Trump will do some dumbass thing like start a trade war with China and the whole thing will come down like you pulled the bottom block out of a Jenga tower.

[FarCenter]

23. Between 1919 and 1933 there was lots of opposition to Hitler

There were running street battles between the Nazis and the Socialist/Communists during the Weimar Republic.

The collapse of the Rothschild's Creditanstalt Bank in Vienna deepened the economic depression and caused the right wing parties to loose support to the Nazi party. The Nazi party, plus the Centre Party and the German National Peoples party, had a majority after the 1932 elections.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_July_1932

Note that rule by decree began under Bruning in 1930, not under Hitler in 32.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Br%C3%BCning