Trump Actually Committed Real Crimes And No Democrat Will Say It - They All Surrendered

[TaterBake]

Already.

Self dealing.
Tax fraud.
Bribery (Bondi - 2 counts)
Charity fraud.

These are the crimes any 1st year law student could convict him of. I am sure he did other crimes I don't know about.

The problem is not one single Democrat has the courage to say Trump should be prosecuted.

We (Democrats) are so busy surrendering, we are dying in the retreat stampede. Dying by the thousands.


WILL ONE DEMOCRAT IN THE HOUSE OR SENATE GO ON NATIONAL TV AND SAY DONALD TRUMP IS A CRIMINAL???

Every single Republican has been saying this about Hillary for years, and it worked.

WHERE IS THE COURAGE??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[shraby]

1. They have called for an independent investigation into the election and hacking.

McConnell has been holding it up.

[brush]

4. Isn't there a way Pelosi and/or Schumer can hold investigative hearings?

Or at least an investigation?

Why wait for the repugs?

We know they are going to drag their feet and obstruct.

It's what they do.

[calimary]

20. The last time they were in a position like this, they did try.

Minority status in the House of Reps. They went ahead and held their own hearings without majority approval. No subpoena power to ad teeth to their summons to people to come testify. And not even a hearing room in which to hold those hearings! The majority refused to allow it. So they had to go to the basement and cobble together a "hearing" there. With very little press coverage - because since they weren't the party with the power, whatever they did was insignificant to the news media.

It was an exercise in futility from the get-go. But at least they made an attempt.

[bdamomma]

24. oh I bet

he is filthy man. He had knowledge of tRump's guilty antics. Oh his wife secured a position too.

[Cyrano]

2. The GOP is a criminal enterprise. They won't call out Trump

for being a bigger criminal than most of them.

[mdbl]

11. So true. The idiot voters put the prisoners in charge of the jail

WTF do you think will happen? Nothing!

[The Wielding Truth]

56. No they won't, but we can! Yes we can!

[Sunlei]

3. Oh BS, his record of 3,000+ lawsuits, the child rape case, pussy grabber recordings were PUBLIC!

REPUBLICANS voted for him anyway and even promoted him on EVERY RW media they had. including their free TV- Republican fox-lies 'news' allowed daily interviews of trump

[certainot]

33. exactly. the left /dems let a few hundred blowhards attack their reps all day

from 1200 think tank coordinated radio stations, while making excuses for republican crimes and lying about everything, and dems want their reps to stick their necks out.

trump depended heavily on rw radio and it will continue to attack his critics from 1200 radio stations.

[Sunlei]

43. I know,playing defense & making excuses is what made the simple propaganda, divide and conquer work!

Now we have additional Republican Cancers-America will never get rid of, if we can't unite.

All America needs is one large natural disaster (a volcano, big earthquake, massive flood) ,a major foreign generated terrorist attack or even a large domestic terrorist attack and our society will go crazy trying to deal with the disaster.

We'll lose our democracy our 'freedoms' over trying to deal with any of the above disasters today.

[certainot]

45. and those 1200 coordinated radio stations dominate in emergencies

americans have to discredit them BEFORE the disaster and they get us into another war, or worse.

[Sunlei]

50. good luck with that those 1000s of radio stations will never go away.

[certainot]

52. as soon as a few of those unis start discussing the absurdity of

their support for global warming denial and trump and racism and defunding public ed, others will follow and advertising for all rw radio will flee

gop will freak out

[quakerboy]

58. Sure they will

Self driving cars are impending, thus changing commutes. And streaming audio is a thing. Give it enough time and radio wont even be as self sufficient as newspapers.

[TaterBake]

5. My Friends, You Don't Get It - We ARE AT WAR

Every single Democrat should have stated at least once every single time they spoke to "the media" that "Donald Trump is a criminal and should be prosecuted, now let's talk about the rain in Spain...."

What about now.

Where is "the opposition" to Trump's planned dismantling of the safety net?

Too busy surrendering to go on the attack.

Do I have to do all the heavy lifting?

Any Democrat who publicly states "I am willing to work with Trump" should be tried for treason. Newt is already bragging about how they plan to roll back everything FDR did.

We are at war, and surrender is not an option folks.

https://thinkprogress.org/gingrich-brags-that-republicans-are-coming-for-everything-fdr-accomplished-28a1b1d46224#.43afgttsa

[BlancheSplanchnik]

14. . I must share this.

I'll give credit to "a friend"--is that OK?
Or what? Tell me what you prefer.

...sharing along with OP.

K, R.

[LaydeeBug]

16. this. nt

[Initech]

18. We need to start crafting a real opposition to the liars and bullies who have taken over.

Now or we won't win 2018 or 2020. We may have witnessed the last free election in this country, President Man Baby has been given way too much power and he will exploit it, while his billionaire cabinet will loot and pillage. If that horrendous First Amendment Defense Act passes, a lot of us will go to jail. It's scary to think about what is coming. We need real opposition now.

[CrispyQ]

25. Trump has already stated that

the reason he isn't attending the PDB is because he's smart & he doesn't need to hear the same thing over & over again for the next eight years.

This election was a game changer. The dems chortle about winning the popular vote, while the nation turns red. It may turn red because the GOP plays dirty, but it's still red. The dems are a day late & a dollar short. It will be years before this country recovers from this.



State legislatures the past six years:

[Initech]

27. Trump is a guy who repeats the same thing over and over!

"I'm a smart guy! I am a very smart guy!", "We're gonna drain the swamp!", "We're going to make America great again!", "We're going to build a wall, it's going to be the best wall!", "It's gonna be yuuuuuuuuuge!". He doesn't want to hear the same thing over and over?

[certainot]

39. the result of ignoring 1200 rw radio stations for 30 years in 40 states with 80 senators

here are 88 universities supporting 257 limbaugh stations, and they need to be protested until they stop.

i heard that if they can get one more state house they can call for a constitutional convention. when these stations start in on one of the close state houses, trying to get some dems on 'scandals', dems have to be ready.

without talk radio republicans have nothing

this is the orange samson's hair

ALABAMA 8  Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7  Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 5 Wisconsin 5

[calimary]

21. And for once, ol' newty is telling the truth.

The republi-CONS have always had a hard-on about Roosevelt's New Deal. Wanting VERY badly to dismantle it ever since it was implemented. And THEY are the ones who brag about how "Christian" they are!

What I wish our side would start pointing out:

- "republi-CONS. They DON'T want to help you!"
- "You're on your own. Sucks to be you, 'eh?"
- "republi-CONS are the 'IGMFU Party.' 'I-Got-Mine, F-U'!
- "CONS. Because all they offer is a CON job!"

[lastone]

28. √ yes

It's called staying on message and it's what we don't do and the republicons do exceptionally well. That we have to beg for a criminal to face justice shows how pathetic this thing we can the justice system is. That and we tend to silence outspoken Democrats, IE Alan Grayson. Spineless doesn't go far enough, complacent or even complicit in their incompetence is more accurate. I'm sure it goes back further than pelosi passing on the crimes against humanity when Bush and Cheney were let of scott free but we still give the spineless positions of power in our party... Drives me crazy daily.

[TaterBake]

6. We Are So Busy Surrendering

Stupid White People are asking Republicans to give them jobs.

My Gawd.

Republicans.

It's beyond sick.

Of course TPP didn't help........

[Sunlei]

47. why even mention TPP? you do know China has taken over USAs position & usa will LOSE billions in tra

lose billions in Asian-pacific trade. trillions LOST as the decades move on and ALL other TPP countries (including Mexico and Canada) will continue with their Asian-pacific trade without USA.

china was NOT a TPP member country but they grabbed our position as soon as republican propaganda scammed American public again!

[Snackshack]

7. Agreed.

The idea of taking the "high road" or maintaining decorum is nice and when possible the right thing to do but Dems need to realize what they are dealing with and that they are going to have to get some back bone. The way Dem's have rolled over on the SCOTUS issue alone is appalling.

[calimary]

22. Welcome to DU, Snackshack.

Seems like we've been begging for this, for years - SOMEBODY in the Dems PLEEEEEEASE show some BACKBONE!!! SOMEBODY PLEEEEEEASE stand up to these people! SOMEBODY PLEEEEEASE start fighting these people the way they need to be fought: dirty and scheming. If we don't, we'll get rolled - EVERY time.

I posted somewhere else that I deeply admire Michelle Obama's statement that "when they go low, we go high." But with this bunch, going high usually sends you straight over a cliff. We can't fight fair when they don't. That only gets you a win in the movies. Real life doesn't work like that.

I find myself wondering - WHERE are OUR devious players? Where are OUR fighters willing to play dirty? WHY are we always the ones who feel they have to play nice?

[Snackshack]

41. Hi Calimary.

Thank you for the welcome 😀

I have actually been posting here since 06 (username was "Deathrind" after a WoW character I played) but I lost that account after the hack last month because I no longer had the old email address I used for it.

Yes, the Dems need to get some intestinal fortitude. Idk that we need to go devious (at least not yet) but we definitely need to call out republicans and the rw on their lies and fabrications. Doing this would not surrender any moral ground and would go a long way to energize the base for support. As you said the base has been wanting someone like this for too long. Senator Warrens popularity sky rocketed when she started doing this. That more Dems have not followed is sad but understandable. It costs $ to win elections so Dems are timid to go after the establishment but Obama's and Sander's campaign showed that there are lots of supporters out there for Dems who will stand up and pushback. We just need to find Dems who will do that.

[Sunlei]

48. filing some lawsuits would be a start, Ds haven't started even ONE. There should be hundreds by now.

In the Justice department, in the Federal courts, in state courts against local corruption, FBI investigations should be opened. There should be hundreds of lawsuits in our courts and cases in our Federal departments and Ds have ZERO.

[unblock]

8. don't forget soliciting cybercrimes (asking russia to steal from american computers)

and perhaps accepting contraband as well. maybe not him personally, but his campaign and/or surrogates.

[Initech]

15. And sexual assault! Remember locker room talk?

[TaterBake]

9. I Am Talking About Demanding Prosecution For Obvious Crimes - Is That So Hard?

For Dems?

[Cryptoad]

10. u have forgotten ,,,

there are two justice system in our country
one for poor folk and ,,,
one for the Rich.

[awoke_in_2003]

54. Three

Even poor white people are treated to better justice than POC in this country.

[hughee99]

12. Why should any public officials need to suggest this

Needs to be prosecuted? Is the justice department only taking cases by political request, now?

[kacekwl]

13. The justice department is useless regarding

anything trump or republican related. Treasonous behavior , criminal behavior is for some reason off limits to democrats.

[elmac]

19. But some poor soul steals a loaf of bread

and OFF WITH HIS HEAD! We live in a very, criminal fascist society. Its time we all disobey laws of every kind, in any way.

[LaydeeBug]

17. Because leaders need to lead. nt

[hughee99]

29. It seems like there are a lot of people not happy with the way things are being run now,

and they seem very reluctant to actually blame the current president for it. The justice department SHOULD have been doing it's job, and the current president SHOULD have made changes if they weren't.

Why demand that someone in congress say something when you're looking at a problem that needs to be fixed in the executive branch? I'm mean, sure you can do it, but you're not really complaining to the right people.

[LaydeeBug]

32. The problem does not need to be "fixed at the executive branch". The problem IS the fix is in.

and we need to repeat it as often as they repeat 'liberal media'. <<<------There is no 'liberal media', and there never has been, but their framing it that way for decades has moved the entire narrative further to the right.

Every democrat needs to be screaming about the GOP and KGB right fucking now. Obama is an epitaph.

He didn't fight as strongly as we wanted...but he was also obstructed at every turn.

We need to continue to harp the truth...because it's the truth. And we need to make sure we are voting with our dollars.

[hughee99]

37. If you think the justice department has been overlooking trumps crimes for years and its because of

of the GOP, I think you've misidentified the problem. Yes, there's lots of things to blame the GOP for, and there's a lot of things that congress (on both sides) has failed in, but failure to prosecute trump for his crimes has nothing to do with congress, and not a whole lot to do with the GOP.

[LaydeeBug]

40. If you think I am only talking about Trump, you are the on misidentifying the problem sweets.

The system isn't broken. It's FIXED.

[hughee99]

42. Sorry, I was discussing the issue in the OP. I was under

The impression you were as well.

[LaydeeBug]

44. I am also talking about the OP, you OTOH were reframing the OP

with the strawman of "if you think that Dems need to speak up when this is an executive branch issue" <<<<---- that was NOT the OP.

I am addressing your marginalizing the OP by switching that this is an Obama problem, or even an executive branch one.

And the strawman to some degree.

Apology accepted though. Bless your heart.

[hughee99]

46. If the DOJ isn't doing its job, that's an issue for the president

Or attorney general to fix, not congress. At BEST, all congress can do is pressure the President or Attorney General into fixing the problem. That's not a straw man, it's a fact.

[LaydeeBug]

49. You're doing it again.

This is *systemic*, and you keep. reframing. it.

[hughee99]

51. And you are dismissing the idea that the people

Responsible for fixing a specific issue should be held responsible for fixing a specific issue. "The system" is always easier to blame because then people don't have to put anyone specific on the line for fixing it. It allows politicians to do what they do best, which is pass the buck.

[ananda]

23. Agree.

I'm not seeing much courage from our leaders these days.

[bdamomma]

26. power in numbers

and we have the numbers to take our country back from these sick ass people.
This is our country, the republican party will burn and crash.........

[PatSeg]

30. The man who called Hillary "Crooked Hillary"

and accused her of "Pay for play". It isn't even a secret how corrupt he is and yet he gets away with this crap.

[mn9driver]

31. It quite literally does not matter.

We have seen this before. Democrats in Congress and elsewhere can say anything they want. They can hold meaningless minority hearings in the Capital basement storage room. They can bring lawsuits to the soon to be 5-4 hard right Supreme Court.

None of it will be covered by the press. And if it is covered, it will be in the context of the sore loser minority party. Trump can do anything he wants. Anything.

And he will. Keep your eyes open. Make plans. By the time it is obvious to everyone what has happened here, it might be too late.

[LaydeeBug]

34. This is gospel right here. TRUTH. Turn off your tv. It sounds ridic...I know

I used to think the very same thing when I read others telling me to do the same.

THEY were the 'out of touch' one. Nope. It was me. The media is a de facto wing of corporate overlords that OWN them and operate them for PROFIT. They are NOT about TRUTH. They are NOT about FACTS. They are about horse races and a 'reality tv' approach to what should be sober, thoughtfully measured and carefully considered American policy.

Giving them your time rewards their effort to frame the narrative away from what's important: each other.

[Angry Dragon]

35. He will lucky to last 6 months

[certainot]

36. bullshit. it was all out there to see. as long as dems ignore 1200 rw radio stations

they cannot collectively say they're getting their reps backs.

trump will ramp up their use of those stations to attack their critics and dems still have no plan for talk radio.

and if you're at a university that broadcasts sports on limbaugh stations you can protest right on campus to get their back and encourage them to stick their necks out

here are 88 deplorable unis supporting 257 limbaugh stations- it needs to end.

ALABAMA 8  Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7  Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 5 Wisconsin 5

[ismnotwasm]

38. I get the feeling you really don't like Democrats

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

53. Now that we are in the post truth era, it apparently doesn't matter what

people actually do or say. It's all about perception and feelings.

Whoever has the superior propaganda machine will rule the world. At this point, the massive, sophisticated, and well-funded RW propaganda machine appears to be beating the crap out of ours.

[world wide wally]

55. I think that some lawmaker needs to go big and come right out and say it:

Donald Trump needs to be investigated for high treason.

[tenderfoot]

57. "And No Democrat Will Say It"

offs

[quakerboy]

59. Since when are those crimes

Since when are those crimes when rich folk, conservatives, or corporate friendly folk do them? Thats normal daily activities, like breathing or brushing your teeth. If you get caught, these are slap on the wrist offenses that you laugh about with your friends.