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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:25 PM Dec 2016

These coal country voters backed Trump. Now they're worried about losing Obamacare.

By Greg Sargent December 27 at 10:40 AM

Last night, CNN aired a terrific segment on people from coal country who voted for Donald Trump — but are now worried that his vow to repeal Obamacare will deprive them of crucial protections that enable them to stay afloat financially. This dovetails with other reporting that suggests a lot of Trump voters may be harmed by repeal of the law.

Which raises a question: Did voters such as these know they were voting for this? After all, Trump promised countless times throughout the campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, didn’t he? If they are complaining about this now, don’t they have only themselves to blame?

No. I’m going to argue that, while Trump did repeatedly vow repeal, these voters were absolutely right to conclude that he would not leave them without the sort of federal protections they enjoy under Obamacare. That’s because Trump did, in fact, clearly signal to them that this would not happen.

The CNN segment features people who live in Eastern Kentucky coal country and backed Trump because he promised to bring back coal jobs. Now, however, they worry that a provision in the ACA that makes it easier for longtime coal miners with black lung disease to get disability benefits could get eliminated along with the law. That provision shifted the burden of proving that the disability was directly caused by work in the mines away from the victim. Those benefits include financial and medical benefits. Some benefits now also extend to the widows of miners who had black lung disease — or pneumoconiosis, a lung illness associated with inhalation of coal dust — after their husbands die. Other reporting has also confirmed widespread coal country worries about losing these protections.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. Voting has consequences.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:29 PM
Dec 2016

Being unable to process information and make intelligent decisions also has consequences.

Soon these southern, values voters will experience the consequences, but will they be able to understand that they are at fault?

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
8. They will not understand that they are at fault for voting in destructive Republicans.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:44 PM
Dec 2016

Just look at the voters in Kansas and Wisconsin who re-elected Brownback and Walker after they decimated their state economies. These voters are no different when it comes to accepting responsibility and understanding the error of their ways.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. True. And the utter bankruptcy of supply side ideas is never really examined
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:37 PM
Dec 2016

in the corporate media.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. Idiots. They had 18 months to evaluate Trump, yet they bought the bullshit
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:34 PM
Dec 2016

hook, line and sinker.

Now, a mere 6 weeks after electing the asshole, they are worried that he'll do exactly what he said he'll do to Obamacare.

Oh, and your fucking coal jobs aren't coming back, either. THEY NEVER WERE, assholes.

spooky3

(34,438 posts)
5. All Americans should know that the Congress votes on legislation. It doesn't take
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:38 PM
Dec 2016

a genius IQ or advanced education to know that with a Republican Congress, the best these voters could hope for is that Trump would veto changes to Obamacare that didn't "take care" of them. In addition, you don't have to be especially well-informed to know that Republicans have voted MANY times to repeal Obamacare without replacement. So, even if you believed all of those "Trump signals", and there are many reasons why you should not have, you would have to be concerned about what the Congress would do.

So I COMPLETELY disagree with Sargent's analysis.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,232 posts)
6. I don't really care. You get what you vote for. I'm surprised at the number of people who didn't....
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Dec 2016

believe the words that came out of Trump's mouth. They figure he just said stuff to get elected, and he won't follow through with it? They're either really stupid, or they voted their fear of "the other". My money's on the latter.

 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
10. Stupid fucks are dying from black lung yet they vote for *it*
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:11 PM
Dec 2016

To bring back the black lung jobs back. God they're stuck on a cycle of stupid

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
17. They are not stupid, they are desperate
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:09 AM
Dec 2016

Coal jobs provided a living at one time. The alternative is retail which does not.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
11. Hmmmm... that seems like hatred coming back around to bite one in one's own ass...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 06:11 PM
Dec 2016

Wait till they hear about Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security!

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
13. Hard to feel sympathy
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:11 AM
Dec 2016

So many people in coal country voted against their instrest. And with that screwed the rest of us.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
14. I'm an adjunct who voted for Hillary and will be losing Obamacare
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:19 AM
Dec 2016

I'm getting so fucking sick of these articles.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. Fucking morons
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:58 AM
Dec 2016

These people suck so much. How can they be that fucking stupid? I don't deserve to lose the ACA, but they sure do.

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