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Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:30 PM Dec 2016

The difference between Democrats and Republicans is this:

When the GOP goes bold, Dems think small

When Republicans bully, Democrats cower in fear

When the GOP stays on message; Dems try to nuance

When Dems say something Republicans don't like, Democrats are quick to apologize

When Mitch McConnell obstructs, Senate Dems try to compromise and accommodate

THIS IS A LOSING STRATEGY!


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The difference between Democrats and Republicans is this: (Original Post) Chasstev365 Dec 2016 OP
Sounds more like Republican talking points. nt Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #1
What???????? Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #2
I'm sorry. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #8
In case you haven't noticed, the party is not doing to well Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #4
time travel fantasy. unblock Dec 2016 #7
At least Democrats used to fight! Chasstev365 Dec 2016 #10
again, it's all about the media. of course fdr fought! he had huge support and an adoring media! unblock Dec 2016 #11
Agree! check077 Dec 2016 #13
The GOP/RW billionaires bought up much of the media. OUR wealthy people are mostly not as rich and tblue37 Dec 2016 #15
There is a reason why Truman was nicknamed "Give 'em Hell Harry." His response to the label was tblue37 Dec 2016 #14
not exactly. unblock Dec 2016 #3
Yep. That's why we've become milquetoast. Fla Dem Dec 2016 #5
amazing, isn't it? shows how much the republicans own the media. unblock Dec 2016 #6
I need a word for them. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #9
the medias keeps pushing the pendulum back right when it is swinging left. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #12

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
8. I'm sorry.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:06 PM
Dec 2016

My boss, an actual baby, not a Republican politician, started hollering, and I couldn't elaborate.

While I don't disagree with any thing you said, I would like to explain my position, with regard to the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Democrats welcome all to their party, while republicans ignore, and work to exclude huge demographic groups.

Democrats work countless hours working to ensure that the vote of every American is counted; Republicans spend their time working to remove that right from millions.

Democrats understand that governance for the benefit of the citizens is the true measure of a leader; Republicans think it's just fine to cheat with a foreign government to win an election. They have no intent to govern.

I guess what I am trying to say is... I don't want to be a Republican. I don't want to act like them. I want my elected officials to operate in an ethical, professional manner at all times.

I can't stand Trump, but I think I would like him even less if he was a Democrat.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
4. In case you haven't noticed, the party is not doing to well
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

It's honest criticism of what needs to change. FDR & Truman would have destroyed the modern Republicans!

unblock

(51,820 posts)
7. time travel fantasy.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:04 PM
Dec 2016

times were very, very different back then and you can't just take fdr's immense charisma that worked wonderfully for that era and the technology and political forces in play at that time and just assume everything would play out similarly today.

imagine fdr somehow ran as the 2016 democratic nominee. but you have to also imagine that republicans ran non-stop investigations into him and eleanors' personal lives, made a point to talk about his health and disabilities, questioned his patriotism and qualifications for office, and made up a bunch of scandals to boot, and then barely gave him any airtime.

all while insisting that toxic trump was the exciting star of the election season and they'd rather cover an empty trump podium than a live fdr speech.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
10. At least Democrats used to fight!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:15 PM
Dec 2016

FDR welcomed the hate of the plutocrats instead of worrying he would offend them and appear too liberal.

Truman vetoed Taft Hartley and pushed for free universal health care. He fought the do nothing Congress at every turn.

JFK increased social security benefits.

LBJ declared war on poverty.

I don't see Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, or Chuck Schmumer doing any of those things

unblock

(51,820 posts)
11. again, it's all about the media. of course fdr fought! he had huge support and an adoring media!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:24 PM
Dec 2016

in truth, your response shows the problem you don't *see* pelosi, reid, schumer, etc., fighting.

in fact, they all do. each of them, along with hillary, warren, franken, and many other democrats have given stirring speeches and strong pushback at various times. the media barely covers it if at all. whereas they constantly feed the image of the strong, fighting republican.

so much of political dynamics make no sense at all until you remember how powerful and pervasive the republican propaganda machine is. once i realized this, everything fell into place. well, except for a solution to the problem....

check077

(16 posts)
13. Agree!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:01 PM
Dec 2016

Unblock, you are truly addressing the source of the problem: media. The corporate media and fake news outlets are putting Democrats at a great disadvantage. So, how do we begin to combat this emergent problem?

tblue37

(64,555 posts)
15. The GOP/RW billionaires bought up much of the media. OUR wealthy people are mostly not as rich and
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:09 PM
Dec 2016

not as attentive to the long game.

tblue37

(64,555 posts)
14. There is a reason why Truman was nicknamed "Give 'em Hell Harry." His response to the label was
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:07 PM
Dec 2016

funny--"I just tell the truth about them and they think it's hell."

And FDR said that he welcomed the hatred of the opposition.

They were tough when tough was needed in politics. (And, yes, I am well aware that they both did some awful things--i.e., Japanese internment under FDR & ignoring the Holocaust; the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But they did know how to take the fight to the Republicans.)

unblock

(51,820 posts)
3. not exactly.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

when the gop goes bold, the media turn a spotlight on them.

when democrats go bold, the media turn a spotlight on republican critics and made-up scandals about prominent democrats, and then they search high and low and give a little bit of airtime to some democrat somewhere that seems to be thinking small, and put them on a panel where they're outnumbered and outshouted by at least 3-1.

etc.

Fla Dem

(23,174 posts)
5. Yep. That's why we've become milquetoast.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

The media as well cowers in the face of Republican criticism.

unblock

(51,820 posts)
6. amazing, isn't it? shows how much the republicans own the media.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:57 PM
Dec 2016

once upon a time, criticizing the press was political suicide.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
9. I need a word for them.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:14 PM
Dec 2016

I'm looking for the perfect one word for the behavior you're describe so well in your post.

Is it a show business term I'm looking for? Who (in the business), runs that spot light?

I am starting to think that if we need to fight someone over the way the electoral process is rigged, that the corporate media may be a good place to start.

Fighting each other is not the way.

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