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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:33 PM Dec 2016

...Christian pastor to President Obama: For 8 years, I've watched you be the better man

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/12/28/1614975/-True-Christian-pastor-to-President-Obama-For-8-years-I-ve-watched-you-be-the-better-man?detail=facebook

Emerging Christian pastor to President Obama: For 8 years, I've watched you be the better man
By Leslie Salzillo
Wednesday Dec 28, 2016 · 2:21 PM EST



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In this open letter to President Obama, Pavlovitz writes about how history will secure the President’s grand legacy and body of wor. After watching President Obama for eight years, Pavlovitz shares his observations. Here are some excerpts from his June piece.

• I’ve watched the way you’ve absorbed a billion body blows from your critics; brutal words that run far deeper than policy or platform, words composed within poisoned hearts long before you served a single day in office.

• I’ve watched you bombarded with a daily molotov cocktail of white privilege and hidden or overt racism disguised as objective opposition.

• I’ve watched your wife and children attacked with a ferocity and malevolence that defy any sense of decency and that have no precedence.

• I’ve watched your birthplace called into question, your personal faith ridiculed, your very humanity discounted.

• I’ve watched you endure the incessant, bitter venom of those for whom the color of your skin was always going to be a problem.

• And through all of it, I’ve watched you be the better man.

Pavlovitz tells President Obama that “In the face of a sustained, spitting, violent, raw-throated hatred, you’ve never responded in kind.” He writes that Obama never allowed himself to be defined by bigotry and never disrespected his critics — by becoming them. This, Pavlovitz says, will be President Obama’s greatest legacy.

The truth is, many of us understand that the Evangelical Right, the NRA, FoxNews, and far too many ordinary folks living here were simply never going to be okay with a man of color leading them and succeeding—and yet you have done both.

Eight years later, those same people still strain to bait you into reciprocating bitterness and in fulfilling their toxic prophecies of you, while you simply continue to do what you do with nobility, compassion, good humor, and steadfast, unapologetic conviction.


John Pavlovitz tells President Obama, “You live the grace so many Christians invoke but rarely model.” The pastor adds, as a father, he realizes his children are always watching him, taking cues from the way he treats people and how he responds to adversity. He knows his children watch how he cares for those in pain, how he handles mistreatment and that his words will always be secondary to his conduct. “This is where I find my deepest gratitude for you in these days.” He tells the President, “For eight years you have worked for those who have been marginalized, even while so many have sought to marginalize you. “

Pavlovitz writes that he and so many others are trying to live passionately yet with integrity and are committed to standing upon principles and never upon people. He says, “We are seeing the way you’ve done it and are moved to move similarly together.”


So you’ll forgive me if I speak informally right now, and if I use words used often brandished by your critics to undermine the work you’ve done and the life you’ve lived and the character you’ve shown.

Without a trace of irony or sarcasm, let me simply say:

Thanks, Obama.


This. Once again, John Pavlovitz proves there are Christians out there who actually follow the words of Christ, who actually care deeply about others, and who are not afraid to speak out against religious hypocrisy. More, please — and thank you, Pastor Pavlovitz.
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...Christian pastor to President Obama: For 8 years, I've watched you be the better man (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2016 OP
This is wonderful and the truth. Thanks for posting. nm AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #1
Well stated, John Pavlovitz! True Dough Dec 2016 #2
Paviovitz and I agree with every word he wrote. Auntie Bush Dec 2016 #3
Thanks so much for posting...hard to believe 166 people have read that and only a couple hace Rec'd pkdu Dec 2016 #4
+100 narnian60 Dec 2016 #26
This... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #5
Gets a person misted up a little eleny Dec 2016 #6
Just a touch ailsagirl Dec 2016 #14
This is a wonderful tribute. Thanks for posting it. LuckyLib Dec 2016 #7
Simon & Garfunkel - The Boxer Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #8
Truth! And what an amazing man is Obama sdfernando Dec 2016 #9
Obama is an "old soul" ailsagirl Dec 2016 #13
Yes, Indeed, he is. Bohunk68 Dec 2016 #28
K&R. tosh Dec 2016 #10
The alt-right, evango-trumpos gave up their "Moral Values" high ground with trump and they know it.. Tikki Dec 2016 #11
Stunningly eloquent words ailsagirl Dec 2016 #12
What a beautiful letter! 40RatRod Dec 2016 #15
What a lovely tribute... HeartlandDem Dec 2016 #16
Yes, President Obama stands tall, he has taken the high roads when others was taking the low road. Thinkingabout Dec 2016 #17
Thank YOU! I will never get over how the republicans treated our most smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #18
As I Read This, SCVDem Dec 2016 #19
This same pastor also spoke very kindly of/to Hillary Clinton CousinIT Dec 2016 #20
After 8 years of Bush orangecrush Dec 2016 #21
Welcome to DU, orangecrush! calimary Dec 2016 #23
Thank you! orangecrush Dec 2016 #39
I would go to church more if more pastors. were like Pavlovitz. Initech Dec 2016 #22
I think your wrong about Joel. His congregation very correctly racially mixed. I have never heard Pauldg47 Dec 2016 #24
But Joel Osteen believes in the Prosperity Gospel, does he not? Initech Dec 2016 #25
Yes, the Prosperity for Joel and Victoria Gospel. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #29
yes, he does RussBLib Dec 2016 #32
Your moved by dis info. You didnt even respond to what i wrote..your off base!.... Pauldg47 Dec 2016 #40
There are plenty good churches out there wryter2000 Dec 2016 #33
I live in Orange County - the home of Rick Warren. Initech Dec 2016 #34
I don't know Orange county geography wryter2000 Dec 2016 #36
k & r Achilleaze Dec 2016 #27
Yesterday I sent an email to President Obama lunatica Dec 2016 #30
Excellent! Thanks for posting. rainlillie Dec 2016 #31
President Obama bdamomma Dec 2016 #35
I wish I could be as good at being a human as President Obama is. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #37
Yes. stage left Dec 2016 #38

True Dough

(17,304 posts)
2. Well stated, John Pavlovitz!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:38 PM
Dec 2016

I would recommend this whether it came from a pastor or a farmer or a welder or an unemployed individual. It recognizes the never-ending burdens that Obama endured and yet he maintained his civility and composure. So remarkable.

Thanks for posting, babylonsister.

pkdu

(3,977 posts)
4. Thanks so much for posting...hard to believe 166 people have read that and only a couple hace Rec'd
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 06:49 PM
Dec 2016

or commented on it.

I wholeheartedly concur with every single syllable.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
9. Truth! And what an amazing man is Obama
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:26 PM
Dec 2016

Put in the same situation of being on the receiving end of all the vitriol, I could not do what he has done and rise above it. He is a much better man than I will ever be.

So thankful to have lived through his Presidency...and I look for much more from him and I know he will not disappoint.

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
11. The alt-right, evango-trumpos gave up their "Moral Values" high ground with trump and they know it..
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:36 PM
Dec 2016

and just in case they might forget...remind them that "pimps grab and twist their girl's genitals hard when they think
their girls are getting out of control, to remind them who is boss." That is who does that.

That is who their guy is....


Tikki

ailsagirl

(22,896 posts)
12. Stunningly eloquent words
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:20 PM
Dec 2016

Thank you for posting!!!!

I liked this: "You live the grace so many Christians invoke but rarely model.”

Amen

HeartlandDem

(80 posts)
16. What a lovely tribute...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:44 PM
Dec 2016

I will remember President Obama with pride for his dignity, class, intelligence, and strength against so much hatred. He will be greatly missed... the last of our great leaders.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
17. Yes, President Obama stands tall, he has taken the high roads when others was taking the low road.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:02 PM
Dec 2016

Also, thanks to the John Pavlovitz for standing with Christ, I would hope others who profess themselves to be ministers, etc would change their hateful ways and follow the teachings of Christ to love one another.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. Thank YOU! I will never get over how the republicans treated our most
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:18 PM
Dec 2016

dignified and esteemed president. They should be ashamed of themselves. The Obamas are nothing but first class.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
19. As I Read This,
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:28 PM
Dec 2016

I started thinking: To The Greatest!

These words would do an epitaph proud.

Let's just save that for many, many years down the road, mmokayy?

orangecrush

(19,551 posts)
21. After 8 years of Bush
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:19 PM
Dec 2016

Obama was like being released from a stinking dungeon onto a tropical island with fresh sea air blowing through the senses.

Calm, careful, collected, a Captains Captain to guide the ship of State through the crises and currents of our times.

I shudder when I consider what lies before us now.

calimary

(81,261 posts)
23. Welcome to DU, orangecrush!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:46 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:22 AM - Edit history (1)

Yeah, after 8 years of dubya... Holy Cannoli!

Like night and day, the difference! It was as though a sober adult had entered the room and cleared out the reckless drunken, brain-rotted arrested-development case. And now, after eight years of the well-informed, cool-calm-collected thoughtful grown-up - here goes another reckless arrested-development case, only this one isn't a dry drunk. He's a predatory, opportunistic, lying, sociopathic narcissist.

Never imagined the day when I'd expect to see people talking about how trump makes them miss dubya. But somehow, I'm thinking the Mango Mussolini is gonna get us there.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
22. I would go to church more if more pastors. were like Pavlovitz.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:21 AM
Dec 2016

And less like the Warrens and Osteens that populate my county!

Pauldg47

(640 posts)
24. I think your wrong about Joel. His congregation very correctly racially mixed. I have never heard
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:34 AM
Dec 2016

...a racial slur come from his mouth...i am a member of his church too.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
29. Yes, the Prosperity for Joel and Victoria Gospel.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

The rest...not so much.

My personal favorite (in all seriousness) is Rev. Dr. William Barber, II. He spoke at the DNC and I've been a huge fan ever since. He is part of the red-letter movement.

Pauldg47

(640 posts)
40. Your moved by dis info. You didnt even respond to what i wrote..your off base!....
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:56 PM
Dec 2016

...also, joel has not ever had one inuendo of patisanship. His audiance has always been of an equal mix of hispanics, black and white. Does that bother you? I could care less about my racist church i am going to here in michigan. He is not at all like the pat robertson type. The part about his wife is dis info too. Anyway i dont expect any one to believe me and there are good christan dems too.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
33. There are plenty good churches out there
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:09 PM
Dec 2016

If you even make it to Oakland, visit St. Paul's Episcopal. My church.

wryter2000

(46,045 posts)
36. I don't know Orange county geography
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:05 PM
Dec 2016

But there's a progressive Episcopal church in Pasadena. All Saints.

http://www.allsaints-pas.org/

I'm not seriously trying to get you to church, . I just want you to know there are good churches out there. One the greatest frustrations of my life is all the attention the Warrens of this world get and how little good "mainline" churches receive.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. Yesterday I sent an email to President Obama
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:16 PM
Dec 2016

I said the same thing in my own words. Now I think that he's getting millions of these kind of messages from us. I'm so proud of him and Michelle. They're the kind of people that want you to be a better person.

Maru Kitteh

(28,340 posts)
37. I wish I could be as good at being a human as President Obama is.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:07 PM
Dec 2016

We're supposed to be able to tell our children that we admire our elected leaders, or at the very least that we respect them as people even when we may disagree with them.



stage left

(2,962 posts)
38. Yes.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:29 PM
Dec 2016

President Obama's integrity, compassion, and grace under pressure, the strength of character he modeled for us; those things are his legacy and something that no one will ever be able to take away from him. We were fortunate enough to have him for eight years, eight years in which he brought us back from the edge of economic destruction and gained us back the respect we had lost on the world stage.

Thanks, Obama.

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