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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:12 PM Dec 2016

U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds: official

Thu Dec 29, 2016 | 2:05pm EST

The United States on Thursday expelled 35 Russian diplomats and closed two Russian compounds in New York and Maryland in response to a campaign of harassment by Russia against American diplomats in Moscow, a senior U.S. official said on Thursday.

The U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters the Russian diplomats would be given 72 hours to leave the United States. Access to the two compounds will be denied to all Russian officials as of noon on Friday, the official added.

"These actions were taken to respond to Russian harassment of American diplomats and actions by the diplomats that we have assessed to be not consistent with diplomatic practice," the official told Reuters.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-idUSKBN14I1TY

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President Obama imposed sanctions on Russia, the strongest U.S. response to foreign hacking. The move could box in Donald Trump.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028411321

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U.S. expels 35 Russian diplomats, closes two compounds: official (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
Good. n/t Coventina Dec 2016 #1
YES!!! Phoenix61 Dec 2016 #2
Make it difficult for the orange clown to undo! liberal N proud Dec 2016 #3
also it will force the orange clown to publically reverse it LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #10
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #18
K&R mcar Dec 2016 #4
Kickin' with gusto! Faux pas Dec 2016 #5
Brilliant move by President Obama! greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #6
Now, That's Real Breaking News! MineralMan Dec 2016 #7
What Will Trump Tweet about This? MineralMan Dec 2016 #8
Trump tweet: Roy Rolling Dec 2016 #9
Who's the President? Barack Obama Is. MineralMan Dec 2016 #11
that's right bdamomma Dec 2016 #12
I think we may see more from him on this Russian MineralMan Dec 2016 #13
I hope so.... nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #14
Would we have to wait? rolypolychloe Dec 2016 #15
Clearly, you do not understand what treason is. MineralMan Dec 2016 #16
oops rolypolychloe Dec 2016 #19
I agree regarding first paragraph, it applies to tRump. I don't think it means we have to be at war, AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #20
#TreasonousTrump and definition of Treason AmericanActivist Dec 2016 #17

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
10. also it will force the orange clown to publically reverse it
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:36 PM
Dec 2016

The optics will not look good on him if he does that right after gaining office.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
11. Who's the President? Barack Obama Is.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:38 PM
Dec 2016

He does what Presidents do. He'll be President until January 20. He's still at work.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. I think we may see more from him on this Russian
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 03:44 PM
Dec 2016

thing. He has the information. He'll act on it, and will make the information public.

What would be really cool would be if he had information that Trump actively participated in Russian actions, either personally or through one of his people like Epshteyn, who is clearly a Russian tool. If he can provide real, solid evidence that Trump was involved, there could be some serious consequences immediately after the inauguration. Congress could be pretty much forced to act.

Crossing my fingers...

rolypolychloe

(56 posts)
15. Would we have to wait?
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:52 PM
Dec 2016

If Trump has committed high treason during a time of war, could he not be arrested immediately and sent to Gitmo? Doubt they would inaugurate him from there.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
16. Clearly, you do not understand what treason is.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 05:29 PM
Dec 2016

Russia is not a wartime enemy, and we are not at war with them. No treason. Read the Constitution for the exact definition of what treason is.

rolypolychloe

(56 posts)
19. oops
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:30 PM
Dec 2016

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted."

If Trump colluded with Russia, that would satisfy the first paragraph. I think Russia can be considered an enemy considering how many of their nuclear weapons are pointed at us and their support for the other side in our current conflicts. At time of war? We are still at war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and with Isis. Do they not count? I am disappointed in the second paragraph. Thought the Judicial branch could convict someone of treason. When we catch a spy, are they actually tried by Congress? Doesn't really say Congress has exclusive power. Not understanding the part after the comma.

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
20. I agree regarding first paragraph, it applies to tRump. I don't think it means we have to be at war,
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 03:30 AM
Dec 2016

rather that applies to someone levying war against USA. The "adhering to their enemies, giving them aid" fits tRump. Like you I don't understand the second paragraph.

I wonder if there are "two witnesses" to some of tRumps deeds? We know millions of Americans witnessed tRump asking Russia to hack his political opponent.

Will Republicans in the legislative branch actually put USA before their political Party and personal gain? I know 3 Republicans who are speaking out against Russia now - McCain, Graham and McMullin.

Welcome to DU

AmericanActivist

(1,019 posts)
17. #TreasonousTrump and definition of Treason
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:30 PM
Dec 2016

Trump has given aid to an enemy of USA and other US Gov officials have too. Trump asked Russia to interfere in US on television with millions of witnesses. For over a year he has consistently sided with Russia defending Russia. He has refused to release tax returns which likely prove not only financial ties to Russia but Trump indebted to them. Also there was the server issue linking Trump to Russia. And it's likely Trump has been groomed by Russia and is being used by Russia. Not to mention Trump has Manafort and other people working with and for Russia.

Definition of Treason

http://www.annenbergclassroom.org/page/article-iii-section-3

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