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Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 02:48 AM Dec 2016

Great Ambition unchecked by principle . . . is an unruly Tyrant.

The 1800 election is much talked about by historians. A quirk in the electoral college left it in a tie between Jefferson and Burr. Hamilton came to Jefferson's defense although they were polar opposites politically because, as he said:

The danger to the new country, Hamilton argued, wasn’t ideological disputes, but the possibility that an unprincipled man would exploit public passions. He called Burr a latter-day Catiline, the ancient Roman senator who attempted a populist uprising against the Republic. . . .

Some Federalists thought the non-ideological Burr would be more malleable. But, Hamilton countered, a man without theory cannot be “a systematic or able statesman.” Burr is “more cunning than wise .?.?. inferior in real ability to Jefferson,” Hamilton wrote. “Great Ambition unchecked by principle .?.?. is an unruly Tyrant.”

The former Treasury secretary warned that Burr’s trafficking in “the floating passions of the multitude” would lead him to “endeavour to disorganize both parties & to form out of them a third composed of men fitted by their characters to be conspirators.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hamilton-helped-elect-his-rival-to-keep-an-unruly-tyrant-from-the-presidency-if-only-/2016/12/30/6ebc7f24-ceb6-11e6-a747-d03044780a02_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.739f8d972591

Now just who does THAT sound like. I used to think populists were the real heroes. Boy his this election proved that wrong.

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Great Ambition unchecked by principle . . . is an unruly Tyrant. (Original Post) Hamlette Dec 2016 OP
"An unprincipled man who will exploit public passions." smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #1
The Founders saw everything 'coming;' elleng Dec 2016 #2
Very wise of them. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #4
with great difficulty. elleng Dec 2016 #6
Too bad we don't pay attention to them world wide wally Dec 2016 #3
So, great ambition checked by principle... malthaussen Dec 2016 #5
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
1. "An unprincipled man who will exploit public passions."
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 02:52 AM
Dec 2016

My god, it's almost as though he could see it coming.

elleng

(130,834 posts)
2. The Founders saw everything 'coming;'
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 03:40 AM
Dec 2016

they were very observant of the human condition, and did what they could to build in protections against the worst aspects.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
4. Very wise of them.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 05:17 AM
Dec 2016

Unfortunately, they could not have expected this disaster we presently have on our hands. How do we manage this nightmare?

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
5. So, great ambition checked by principle...
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 01:18 PM
Dec 2016

... is a ruly tyrant, which all-in-all, I think Hamilton would have preferred. There is much to be said for a benevolent despot; unfortunately, there is no way to ensure that a despot will be benevolent.

-- Mal

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