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kentuck

(111,051 posts)
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:04 PM Dec 2016

Republicans have been wanting to repeal the New Deal since it was created in the 1930's.

They may be in the best position to actually accomplish their lifetime goal since that time?

What's to keep them from repealing all the labor laws? Environmental laws? Social Security? Medicare? The NLRB? Food stamps? The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit)? And so many other programs that people had grown accustomed to?

If they can get all the billionaires thru the nominating process, and Donald Trump is not forced to resign, there is no limit to the damage they can do to the working and middle classes of this country.

This is the opportunity they have been waiting on for almost 85 years.

What's to keep them from doing it?

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Republicans have been wanting to repeal the New Deal since it was created in the 1930's. (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2016 OP
Likely a repeat of the "Business Plot" against FDR of some nature akin to 1933. RKP5637 Dec 2016 #1
The PEOPLE yelling at the top of their lungs, together, separately, in groups, northoftheborder Dec 2016 #2
Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3
three times majority Republican Congress and Presidency: northoftheborder Dec 2016 #4
But none with the billionaires or the inclination... kentuck Dec 2016 #5
I wonder how they plan to blame it on Democrats? raging moderate Dec 2016 #6
Unlikely suspects? loyalsister Dec 2016 #7
Good point. kentuck Dec 2016 #8
Yep loyalsister Dec 2016 #9
And they will forever own the fallout that results Generic Brad Dec 2016 #10
But, they do own their own propaganda system, FOX, etc. kentuck Dec 2016 #11
People or companies with vested interests spread ignorance and obfuscate knowledge CousinIT Dec 2016 #14
Yup nycbos Dec 2016 #12
We do need to "talk politics" more with those around us. Hortensis Dec 2016 #13
this is what makes trump so bad Locrian Dec 2016 #15

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
1. Likely a repeat of the "Business Plot" against FDR of some nature akin to 1933.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:11 PM
Dec 2016

Except now they can complete it, peacefully. They hold the levers of power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
2. The PEOPLE yelling at the top of their lungs, together, separately, in groups,
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:12 PM
Dec 2016

by voice, by mail, by text, by tweet, by votes, by airplane "words in the sky"......

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Recommended.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:13 PM
Dec 2016

And how much must be lost before even the most fervent of Trump supporters realize exactly what Trump stands for?

Texas, and most Southern and Western states, are prime examples of states with lax labor and environmental laws. Texas has the largest number of minimum wage jobs, the largest number of people without healthcare, near the worst for school outcomes, and the lax regulatory climate encourages predatory employers to settle there.

Texas election laws also make it nearly impossible for groups to organize registration drives.

Is the Texas model to be nationalized?

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
4. three times majority Republican Congress and Presidency:
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:18 PM
Dec 2016

(since Hoover)

...half of Hoover’s administration (1929–1931), some of Eisenhower’s (1953–1955), and some of Bush’s (2003–2007).

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
5. But none with the billionaires or the inclination...
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:21 PM
Dec 2016

that this bunch now has.

It is different this time, it seems to me?

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
6. I wonder how they plan to blame it on Democrats?
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:22 PM
Dec 2016

You bet they have many such plans cooked up. I still say there is something fishy about their unprecedented refusal to do their Constitutional duty almost a year ago and consider the President's nomination for the Supreme Court. This all feels orchestrated.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. Unlikely suspects?
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:34 PM
Dec 2016

A LOT of people in southern states are eligible for SNAP. Thus they are also going to be most in need of social security for retirement. I suspect the delegations from MS, and LA, WV, and TN could surprise us because they know that the baby boomers they rely on for votes will be pissed if their SS is robbed and their kids can no longer feed the grandkids.
They'll never be advocates for expansion, but they may protect their voters.

http://www.cheatsheet.com/personal-finance/states-with-the-most-people-on-food-stamps.html/?a=viewall

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. Yep
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:46 PM
Dec 2016

They know that when it comes down to really screwing over their constituents, the billionaires can't save them from voters with pitchforks.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
10. And they will forever own the fallout that results
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 07:59 PM
Dec 2016

Either they do not grasp that, or they have smugly determined that they have a permanent lock on power in this country and cannot be dislodged. If they know all elections are permanently rigged in their favor and there was no way they can lose, then I suppose all bets are off. it is certainly looking that way.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
11. But, they do own their own propaganda system, FOX, etc.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:01 PM
Dec 2016

And they are capable of confusing people to the point that they would think it was the Democrats fault. After all, they voted for Donald Trump.

CousinIT

(9,217 posts)
14. People or companies with vested interests spread ignorance and obfuscate knowledge
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:31 PM
Dec 2016

"Agnotology" - started w/ the tobacco companies. It's been honed into an artform by corprats, marketing companies, politicians and parties and their corprat media:

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160105-the-man-who-studies-the-spread-of-ignorance

Democrats control NO media so...they'll (Republicans) will bamboozle the public to accept the gutting/cutting/privatization. Eighty years from now, after we're all dead after needlessly dying from treatable diseases because of no healthcare and living until then after retirement absolutely destitute or working till we're dead (what happened before social security and medicare and what we're facing now again), THEN --- Americans will once again GET. A. CLUE long after it's too late for any of us, and maybe they'll reinstate some of these program or institute single payer or something.

But for ALL of us?

It's too late.

Our goose is cooked.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. We do need to "talk politics" more with those around us.
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:08 PM
Dec 2016

Nice chat, but chat that makes people aware of what's happening and that they have a choice to make -- do nothing and possibly lose all that mentioned, or start saying no.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
15. this is what makes trump so bad
Sat Dec 31, 2016, 08:48 PM
Dec 2016

He will be the perfect patsy to blame. Meanwhile the GOP will sell off the US to private interests - gut EVERY safety net, new deal law, environmental act etc.

They'll take this as their perfect opportunity to establish an authoritarian state. Probably using Russia as a model...

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