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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 03:09 AM Jan 2017

Remember that gaslighting doesn't have to be hugely emotional. Sure

vehement denial of the victim's experiences causes shock and trauma and confusion in them as they are gaslight ed and wholely denied. Manafort did it and so did Trump spokesthinggys during the election. But gaslighting can also be a very subtle non reaction to information. The way Trump and the whole GOP react to the Russian interference as if it is a nothing burger or that it was good the Democratic emails were hacked so there would be transparency. Don't let them cool you out. That is an expression in psychopathic literature: 'cooling the mark out'. So that the mark/victim doesn't get the manipulator into trouble once they figure out they have been had. Follow your gut, heart and head. Don't give up on asking congress to look into the Russian interference in the election.

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Remember that gaslighting doesn't have to be hugely emotional. Sure (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2017 OP
Great post! Sunriser13 Jan 2017 #1
Thanks. Happy New Year! applegrove Jan 2017 #2
Would you expand on "cooling you out"? Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #3
It just means the manipulator just tries to calm down the victim so they applegrove Jan 2017 #4
Ah, I see. Cracklin Charlie Jan 2017 #9
Watch the movie GASLIGHT MFM008 Jan 2017 #5
Never seen the movie. But I've lived it. Terrifying. applegrove Jan 2017 #6
I just watched it yesterday. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #8
Herman Goring was master at Glib Reaction Gaslighting or something close to that... uponit7771 Jan 2017 #7
You know you've gone through the looking glass when... GoCubsGo Jan 2017 #10
Yes! I think that's why the day after the election Trump & co. acted very easy going Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #11

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
3. Would you expand on "cooling you out"?
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 03:18 AM
Jan 2017

I got gaslighted from an unexpected person last year. I am not sure that I handled the situation quite right, although it doesn't seem to have happened again.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
4. It just means the manipulator just tries to calm down the victim so they
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 03:28 AM
Jan 2017

don't get in trouble. Reduce the victim's emotional reaction to the manipulation to a point where they just move on and don't go to the police if need be. It can be done in numerous ways including gaslighting. What many in Trumpworld are doing now to journalists and democrats re: Russia.

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
5. Watch the movie GASLIGHT
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 04:46 AM
Jan 2017

with Ingrid Bergman if you haven't seen it.
It shows the subtleties of Gas lighting.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
7. Herman Goring was master at Glib Reaction Gaslighting or something close to that...
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 07:14 AM
Jan 2017

... that's how he was able to sit down with US soldiers at the end of the war

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
10. You know you've gone through the looking glass when...
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:56 AM
Jan 2017

your senior Senator has been very vocal about needing to look into this, without you even having to ask--and your senior Senator is Lindsay Fucking Graham. We are in Bizarro World.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
11. Yes! I think that's why the day after the election Trump & co. acted very easy going
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:03 AM
Jan 2017

They wanted us to forget and not notice all the shit around them...

Let him get to the White-house quietly.

But then the recount talk started and the noticing of Russia shit happened.

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