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Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:51 AM

 

cons are gonna vote to repeal the aca then claim victory

Last edited Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:27 AM - Edit history (1)

but leave the aca in place. theyre saying they may pass on replacement for 4 years

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Reply cons are gonna vote to repeal the aca then claim victory (Original post)
Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 OP
Trust Buster Jan 2017 #1
global1 Jan 2017 #2
global1 Jan 2017 #4
mcar Jan 2017 #3
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #5
mcar Jan 2017 #6
Blanks Jan 2017 #7
stopbush Jan 2017 #9
Blanks Jan 2017 #10
malaise Jan 2017 #8

Response to Ohioblue22 (Original post)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 08:54 AM

1. All that matters to those fools are elections. They will repeal now but kick the can down the road

 

until after the 2018 midterms at the earliest.

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Response to Ohioblue22 (Original post)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:22 AM

2. They Want To Remove The Name Obama From Obamacare....

and they will consider that a victory. The 'deplorables' will love them for it. Some minor tweaks will come in the ensuing years and it will be renamed - who knows - maybe 'trumpcare'. Then the con can say he fixed healthcare and made it great again and take credit for it. The 'deplorables' will love him.

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Response to global1 (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:27 AM

4. To Follow Up Here To My Previous Post Above....

they failed over 60 times to repeal 'Obamacare'. This is their way of saving face to their constituency.

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Response to Ohioblue22 (Original post)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:25 AM

3. Then they will wait while more insurers pull out

of the exchange and blame it on Obama.

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Response to mcar (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:36 AM

5. Hopefully, Dems will be there to remind everybody of the truth

ACA has its problems (like any other major law) but none so egregious that it needs to be removed root and branch and (maybe) replaced with something else. The Republicans haven't come up with any good ideas to replace the law with in six years and I doubt that they will come up with anything over the next 2-4, though, in smashing the law to pieces with a sledgehammer, they will be "scoring a victory", placating their rabid base, and, ultimately, creating a "Health Care Cliff" to try to stain President Obama's legacy and/or to scare Democrats into helping them come up with a replacement (though they will still struggle with getting Democrats and even elements of their own party with actually getting a replacement law in place). I hope that if Republicans manage to repeal PPACA that Democrats make the Republicans go it alone on replacing it because, after all, we already actually came up with a plan, made it law, and, now six years in, is helping lots of people and is the new "status quo". If Republicans want to come in and upend everything (whether their repeal happens 2 years from now or 3-4 years from now it doesn't matter IMHO), they should be made to own the mess.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:42 AM

6. I'm hoping it doesn't work

The Rs are the governing party now. They can't just blame everything (falsely) on the previous administration, though they will try.

We have to keep reminding them, and the media, of that.

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Response to Ohioblue22 (Original post)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:49 AM

7. They will expand Medicaid into the red states..

That refused it. Call it TrumpCare, and no amount of pointing out that was all they did will convince his supporters that's all he did.

They will do something like this to cover up that they are investing your (and mine) social security in the stock market.

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Response to Blanks (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:25 PM

9. And they will twist R arms in the state legislatures

to get them comply.

As incentives, they'll send more $ to the states under block grants that can be used on anything they want. They'll also lower benefits to patients. Any extra $ will get channeled to their donors in the form of business incentives, aka payoffs.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:23 PM

10. Exactly, they'll explode the deficit...

and not worry about it. They'll throw money at every problem and explain: that's what Obama should have done. We wouldn't have had any of these problems if Obama had done this.

TrumpCare.

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Response to Ohioblue22 (Original post)

Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:00 AM

8. It was ReTHUGs who named it Obamacare

because they thought it would fail to pass

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