KGOP is about to OWN health care.

[mobeau69]

Austan Goolsbees remarks regarding Obamacare repeal tonight on AC 360 (paraphrased):

As soon as the KGOP repeals it, changes it or replaces it they are going to OWN it.

Then increases in costs, currently at their lowest levels of increase in the last 50 years, are going to continue to rise and will likely rise even faster.

Any additional costs and other problems will be immediately felt by the voters and squarely laid at the KGOP doorstep.

It's easy to take it away but it will be hard to replace it and replacing it will be expensive.

In short, they are the proverbial dog that caught the bus.

[Skittles]

1. since when have they ever OWNED anything?

WHO will hold them accountable?

[mobeau69]

6. The miners in WV that fell for the cons BS but

need their Obamacare for their black lung disease for one.

[Skittles]

14. THEY WILL STILL VOTE REPUKE

[mucifer]

11. Exactly. The news is always he said she said. It's never wow the republicans f'd up

[uponit7771]

2. Thank you for calling them the KGOP, never let their treason go... every statement and post should

... remind America of RepuKGBlincan treason

[elleng]

3. He's prolly right generally but

heard today, on Chris Hayes' show w Melber, NOT so easy to 'repeal,' only parts done 'easily' are re: tax/$ (due to congress rules,) so will be messy and not smooth at all, piecemeal.

[mobeau69]

4. Point's still the same though.

They touch it, they own it.

[elleng]

7. Yes, they break it,

They own it.

[CousinIT]

16. Yea about that....

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2016/12/19/paying-for-an-aca-replacement-becomes-near-impossible-if-the-laws-tax-increases-are-repealed/

Remember the Repuke M.O. when they want to get rid of something - they just STARVE it of revenue with some poison pill.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2016/12/19/paying-for-an-aca-replacement-becomes-near-impossible-if-the-laws-tax-increases-are-repealed/

[pangaia]

5. KGOP is good !! I like it.

But, I doubt the KGOP will ever own the disaster that is coming in health care. They wuill blame it on OBAMACARE and Dems and the Dems will just crawl into a hole.. or have meetings, "We' are terrible at messaging...right-wing media be damned..

[elleng]

8. Not if Schumer (and Sanders) have anything to say about it,

according to their statements on Rachel show tonight. They'll FORCE them to own it.

[pangaia]

9. Good!! Bernie I certainly trust.. Schumer, he is one of my senators

but I have to trust other's opinions about him... and also dig more....

He certainly could be a real scrappy fighter,...

[elleng]

10. I've not liked Schumer in the past,

but he seems envigorated in the right direction now. The scrappy fighter part of Schumer is just what we need. Hear they attended the same Brooklyn high school?

[pangaia]

15. Two Guys From Brooklyn. I like the ring of it.

I was born in NYC, grew up in NJ and played many jazz gigs in NYC and Brooklyn.... Don't mess with da guys from Brooklyn....

[elleng]

18. I was born in Manhattan,

and lived in Brooklyn for 9 years!

[pangaia]

23. I actually went to Ebbets Field!! I'm that old. Lol

[elleng]

24. I'm that old too, but

never went to Ebbets.

I am, however, a FOREVER

[pangaia]

26. I was actually a Yankee fan...ssshhhhh..

[elleng]

28. OH NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

[pangaia]

29. Swear to god.

Back when "rooting for the Yankees was like rooting for US Steel."

I knew everything..batting stats, pitching stats, lineups..I was there when mantle hit the facade above the upper deck in right field. I even have his autograph on a ball.
I can still remember the smell of the REAL Yankee Stadium.

God I better stop.
😎

[elleng]

31. YES/ STOP!

I surely never got to Yankee Stadium, OR the Polo Grounds!

SHEA? YES!

[pangaia]

32. METS FOREVER!!!!

I I had an epiphany several years ago.

[elleng]

35. HAPPY to hear that!

Went to Shea when in high school.

P.S. Named our dog SANDY!!!

[pangaia]

36. I went to 2 games in 2015.

Sat in the left field nosebleed section--no NOT sit there if u have vertigo like me-- then right behind their dugout..maybe 10the row.

[elleng]

38. Skipped many years

(maybe 2 games at Wrigley during the '70s,) and a few @ RFK for 'new' DC team, the NATIONALS, before their/our new stadium. But before Nats were 'invented,' did attend a few Orioles games in Baltimore! Like that stadium a lot. I'm kind of vertigo-ish these years, so will be cautious if I ever get to Nats Stadium with daughter (and grandson!)

[mucifer]

12. If the press spins it pro trump and blames President Obama people will be confused

Schumer can't force anything.

[mobeau69]

13. What can they blame Obama for?

They can try but that dog won't hunt.

[mucifer]

20. They can spin it as Obamacare was never any good to begin with. It kind of is all over the press

that way now anyway.

[elleng]

25. The press can say whatever it/they want.

People will KNOW they gained something from ACA that was taken by trump and repugs.

[mobeau69]

37. BINGO

They've sort of got themselves between a rock and a hard place now. It was easier just bashing the ACA.

[elleng]

39. Right. They've got to try to do SOMETHING,

and whatever it is, it won't be good. Won't be a complete 'repeal,' surely not for years, so will hobble around, and they'll never (imo) get a replace. They're not smart enough to do the right thing: MEDICARE for all!

[mobeau69]

41. When "repeal" morphed into "repeal and REPLACE" they boxed themselves in.

And we now have a measuring stick.

[flamingdem]

17. They don't care about planning to triple the deficit either

We are fairly doomed but we can make them pay a price

[hibbing]

19. They don't care

It doesn't matter, just like the head of their party. It does not matter what they do or say. Sorry, I've given up any sense of hope for a brighter future for all Americans.


Peace

[edhopper]

21. I've said ir before

THEY..... DON'T....CARE!!!!

[roamer65]

22. They have no intention of replacing it.

They will destroy the American healthcare system, then try to blame it on Dems.

[davsand]

27. I expect to see them mess with it so that it isn't functional any more.

But they aren't gonna "repeal" it because they want to claim the stubborn Dems KEPT them from fixing it. Watch for them to change enough parts of it that it will be unworkable for normal human people. Cost will go up and when it is all one giant clusterf**k in a couple of years they are gonna stand out front and say it is the Dem's fault.

Mark my words!


Laura

[mobeau69]

33. There going to have to vote on repeal one way or the other.

They caught the bus.

[Ford_Prefect]

30. Meanwhile we're being harvested like Hogs in a pen. They vacuum up our savings and our retirement

investments and what modest property we may hold against the day when we may no longer be allowed to work.

When they cut Obamacare and Medicare my wife dies because we can't afford to continue the medicine. Then I die shortly thereafter from grief, or financial shock at the medical debts we accumulated, or from simple neglect because my spouse is gone and can't take care of me.

Meanwhile they collect the money every day, more and more every day, and they blame us as lazy and deadbeat because we cannot afford the most expensive and wasteful medical care on the planet.

The millions who perished in the Final Solution were tortured, terrorized, burned, gassed, starved, worked to death, and shot. It was the crime of that and any other century.

Today we have the luxury of paying through the nose for an infinitely slower death by a thousand cuts. Today's genocide is at the hands of those who see us as a crop to harvest and render down financially. They paid a very dear price to own Congress and the White House but it is a fraction of what they will recoup once they own the entire medical delivery system unfettered by regulation or restraint. The sins of Martin Shkreli will pale in comparison to the wholesale reaping of the American Citizen by the new powers that be.

[pnwmom]

34. Which is why they are planning to repeal but delay the date of its taking effect,

maybe even till after the next Presidential election.

[mobeau69]

40. Any delay will wreak havoc on the system right away.

Insurance companies can't deal with that scenario. Plus that brilliant idea is a joke on its face. Has weasel written all over it.