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Sat Jan 7, 2017, 06:30 AM

 

The great lesson of the last 8 years: Don't go to sleep at the wheel!

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After the great Obama victory of 2008 the Democratic Party went to sleep, and it KILLED US!!!!!

Make no mistake that I give great credit to Obama for many things, and he is a great guy who will be fondly remembered. But to understand what went wrong we also have to fairly critique him along with everything else so we can understand what went wrong so that we can fix things going forward. He did some very good things, but he campaigned as a soaring transformational guy but all too often led as a chess-playing TRANSACTIONAL guy who tried to make deals with the R's who never wanted or had any intention of making deals. He should have taken his popularity and mandate straight to the American people and HAMMERED the GOP in a much bigger and louder way and done more of the great things he campaigned on. He and Dems all over did little to combat the Tea Party movement. And he put in Tim Kaine and then Wasserman-Schultz at the DNC who were not full time DNC chairs and did not do a good job. The DNC turned into a corporate-lite establishment fundraiser instead of a strong grassroots organization out there organizing BIGTIME in every single county in the nation. The DNC just plain STUNK! We therefore got GUTTED at the state level all over the country and had SHITTY elections in 2010, 2014, and 2016.

In addition, the party FAILED BIGTIME to put together ONE overarching compelling message for candidates to run on which should have been a MASSIVE POPULIST message saying: GOOD JOBS FOR EVERYONE EVERYWHERE and JUSTICE FOR EVERYONE EVERYWHERE!! Simple as that. A strong, compelling message with a relentless focus on the ECONOMY EVERYWHERE. Instead, Democrats/Progressives fumbled and bumbled around in the weeds squirreling around with this issue and that issue with no overarching message and FOCUS. And our turnout in non-presidential cycles has STUNK! So we all have to take some of the responsibility here.

Folks, we must be honest and understand WHAT WENT WRONG so we can now get a new a much better DNC chair in place, re-organize the party at the grassroots everywhere, and get ONE clear, compelling, STRONG overarching message into operation so we can straighten this party the hell out and WIN again. We actually are the largest party and we win on the issues. But we have FAILED to COMMUNICATE and ORGANIZE correctly, so we have LOST. A good, honest, hard look in the mirror is always what is needed. We can't keep going to sleep at the wheel!! We need to WAKE UP and SHOW UP!

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 07:56 AM

1. All that and no mention of Comey, Puting, Assange, Crosscheck, vote suppression, et al?

Eliminating all that should be our focus now, and working to fix or ditch the EC because, oh, right, Hillary got 3 million more votes.

The repugs cheat. Let's put on a concerted, sustained effort to expose and stop them.

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Response to brush (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 08:15 AM

2. Our top 3 priorities should be the EC, the EC, and the EC... until then, we can keep gettin LOTS more votes and still keep losing... big fuckin' whoop!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:07 AM

6. We have lost because of SHIT organization and NO message for voters. Period!

 

We have been GUTTED all over the country because of SHIT organization and SHIT messaging. PERIOD!

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Response to brush (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:02 AM

4. Yes, but gotta get the organization and messaging right first. Hard to do the other with no power.

 

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 09:57 AM

3. Sighs

I get tired of posts like this.

Nothing went wrong unless you want to ignore voter suppression, gerry mandering, the other side getting 2 billion dollars of free media, negative media stories of Hillary Clinton, sexism, racism, homophobia, morally corrupted FBI agents.

Enough of posts like this

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Response to Coolest Ranger (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:04 AM

5. Sighs...We wouldn't have had a lot of that if we'd had a MESSAGE!

 

I'm not saying all that doesn't exist. I'm saying you need to WIN elections. Instead we ALLOWED R's to win elections and so all these things you complain about were able to occur.

Focus on getting ORGANIZATION and a MESSAGE together and WINNING elections!

You can be in the sand if you want and blame everything on everything except OURSELVES, but if you do that you will just keep LOSING.

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Response to RBInMaine (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:34 AM

8. We had a message

you just are not interested in hearing it

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:11 AM

7. You forget one aspect of Obama

we are a racist country and if he'd asserted himself any at all more than he did he'd been hung on times square, figuratively speaking. he'd have been hung out to dry as an angry black man and nothing would have gotten done that he so skillfully did get done

I personally had thought, hoped, whatever, that we were past all the hate and racism of the past but as soon as it looked like Obama was going to win the long knifes came out. The racist in this country started coming out of the wood work. If only he'd been a white man...

My apologies if what I typed makes anyone uncomfortable

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Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Sat Jan 7, 2017, 11:43 AM

9. Locking....

From the SOP of the General Discussion forum:

If your thread concerns the 2016 elections (primaries, general election campaigns, and their aftermaths), you must post in the 2016 Postmortem forum.

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