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RedWedge

(618 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:52 PM Jan 2017

About that Explosive Trump Story: Take a Deep Breath

https://lawfareblog.com/about-explosive-trump-story-take-deep-breath

First, we have no idea if any of these allegations are true. Yes, they are explosive; they are also entirely unsubstantiated, at least to our knowledge, at this stage. For this reason, even now, we are not going to discuss the specific allegations within the document.

Second, while unproven, the allegations are being taken quite seriously. The President and President-elect do not get briefed on material that the intelligence community does not believe to be at least of some credibility. The individual who generated them is apparently a person whose work intelligence professionals take seriously. And at a personal level, we can attest that we have had a lot of conversations with a lot of different people about the material in this document. While nobody has confirmed any of the allegations, both inside government and in the press, it is clear to us that they are the subject of serious attention.

Third, precisely because it is being taken seriously, it is—despite being unproven and, in public anyway, undiscussed—pervasively affecting the broader discussion of Russian hacking of the election. CNN reported that Senator John McCain personally delivered a copy of the document to FBI Director James Comey on December 9th. Consider McCain’s comments about the gravity of the Russian hacking episode at last week’s Armed Services Committee hearing in light of that fact. Likewise, consider Senator Ron Wyden’s questioning of Comey at today’s Senate Intelligence Committee hearing, in which Wyden pushed the FBI Director to release a declassified assessment before January 20th regarding contact between the Trump campaign and the Russian government. (Comey refused to comment on an ongoing investigation.) So while people are being delicate about discussing wholly unproven allegations, the document is at the front of everyone’s minds as they ponder the question: Why is Trump so insistent about vindicating Russia from the hacking charges that everyone else seems to accept?

Fourth, it is significant that the document contains highly specific allegations, many of which are the kind of facts it should be possible to prove or disprove. This is a document about meetings that either took place or did not take place, stays in hotels that either happened or didn’t, travel that either happened or did not happen. It should be possible to know whether at least some of these allegations are true or false.
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About that Explosive Trump Story: Take a Deep Breath (Original Post) RedWedge Jan 2017 OP
At this point I don't care if it's "unsubstantiated." The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #1
Agreed. The right hammered President Obama about his birth certificate. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #2
Ditto. 50 Shades Of Blue Jan 2017 #3
The Republicans don't fucking care about truth. We should learn from them. n/t rzemanfl Jan 2017 #4
I know--but it is exciting if we can get Trump!! riversedge Jan 2017 #5
This story is still a very fluid situation NightWatcher Jan 2017 #6
Well played, NW! nt Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #7
Maybe they're gonna try and call it Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #9
No nini Jan 2017 #8
Morning kick. RedWedge Jan 2017 #10
It should be easy to prove. Vinca Jan 2017 #11
trumpee's tweet on President Obama 8/6/12 Cha Jan 2017 #12
Everyone is just enjoying the surf.............n/t HAB911 Jan 2017 #13

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,720 posts)
1. At this point I don't care if it's "unsubstantiated."
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 09:54 PM
Jan 2017

It's appropriate revenge for all those years of Trump's false claims about Obama's birth certificate.

nini

(16,672 posts)
8. No
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 10:08 PM
Jan 2017

the shit is hitting the fan.... and this is the best mood I've been since 6PM PST election night.

This is gonna blow but good.. The CIA will make sure he's exposed.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
11. It should be easy to prove.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:46 AM
Jan 2017

"The Donald" is known for stiffing (no pun intended) his employees. If a person was hired to perform the "golden" act in question, she/he probably never got paid and would be happy to talk about the experience.

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